"Bernie Is a Loud,Stubborn Socialist. Republicans Like Him Anyway."He was incredibly EFFECTIVE"

[snagglepuss]

Last edited Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:02 PM - Edit history (2)

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"A lot of people here talk about what they believe in, but they don't act on it," Sen. Mark Warner said. "He always acts on what he believes. "¦ We can agree or disagree, but you know where he stands."

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... Sanders has managed to be respected — even liked — by much of the chamber, according to members on both sides of the aisle.


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Sanders' willingness to stand up and say no has also helped him to score victories on Capitol Hill. Sanders highlights his battles to prevent Republicans from cutting Social Security benefits as well as "the complete decimation of the U.S. Postal Service."


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Sen. Jack Reed used the term "extremely energetic" to describe Sanders, a friend and longtime colleague whose relationship with Reed goes back to their days in the House. "Last year when we had the scandal at the VA, he was incredibly effective, engaged in getting the legislation passed, in getting it funded. Frankly, without him, I don't think we would have gotten it done because there was a lot of name-calling but there wasn't a lot of constructive, 'OK, here's the resources. ...' And he did it," Reed said. "And it was a great testament to his skill as a legislator."




http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/bernie-sanders-is-a-loud-stubborn-socialist-republicans-like-him-anyway/450597/

[dana_b]

1. Telling the truth, sticking to your views and

having people say "you know where he stands" goes a long way.

[fun n serious]

5. His own words, matter of record. nt

[bjobotts]

18. He's a Democratic" Socialist...get it straight. There's a big difference.

[pdsimdars]

2. And he routinely got 20% of the REPUBLICAN vote in Vermont

according to Thom Hartmann from when he lived there. The people know him and trust him. Fancy that!

[tecelote]

3. K&R! For Integrity, Ethics and Morals

Imagine if Bernie got the media attention Hillary gets. He would win by a huuuge margin.

[840high]

32. Very rare nowadays. Go Bernie.

[PeoViejo]

4. Turn up the Bern!!

I love it.

[snagglepuss]

6. "But he's tenacious and dogged and has determination, and he's not to be underestimated."

That's Republican Sen Roger Wicker.

[Loudestlib]

14. Slimy

[fun n serious]

15. It's his own words and the truth. People should be allowed to know nt

[Loudestlib]

16. Know what?

[mac56]

19. Not sure what point you're trying to make.

Plus, the GIF of the dancing woman distracted me.

[passiveporcupine]

29. Can't you tell?

In the gif, that's Sarah Palin. Sure moves like her.

[PatrickforO]

20. Really good article. If I was still undecided, which I'm not,

This would cause me to support Bernie. Anyone so frugal that he keeps a wiper blade inside the glove box and clears the windshield manually is one of us. Plus, he did the film on Debs, a genuine American hero. Bernie's who we need.

[Lizzie Poppet]

25. If your anti-Bernie propaganda isn't at least vaguely on-topic...

...how about making a separate thread for it, m'kay? No rule says you have to, of course...just a basic sense of grace and common courtesy.

I won't get my hopes up...

[FighttheFuture]

27. Nice quote out of context, but still very true. What point are you trying to make? It's pretty on

target. The Sentence before this, part of the same paragraph, sets it up:

Sanders built his campaigns around a theme that would sound familiar to his supporters today: American society had been hijacked by plutocrats, prudes, and imperialists, and wholesale reform was needed to restore it to its rightful course. "I have the very frightened feeling..."

As in all dire predictions, the time frames are usually off, but its more true than ever today. Thanks for sharing!!

[passiveporcupine]

31. He was off by 20 years or so

warning of a "virtual Rockefeller family dictatorship over the nation" if Nelson Rockefeller were named vice president.

It turned out to be the Koch brothers and the last 40 years, culminating in Citizen's United.

[Armstead]

42. I love my country and he was right then and is right now

[AzDar]

8. Bernie is "The Real Deal"...

[fun n serious]

9. Yep. You can not argue now that he has changed

Since you are owning his past. He is the same. He has not changed you're right. He wants to dismantle the CIA. Can you imagine?

[AzDar]

10. Of course I agree with Bernie... and JFK. (and MANY others)

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/01/jfk-wished-he-could-splinter-cia-thousand

[questionseverything]

40. important historical post

[PatrickforO]

21. Yes, actually I can...

The CIA, DEA, FBI, NSA, all of these have WAY too much power and WAY too little accountability. I'm also for massive cuts in the military and getting rid of all the mercenaries (contractors) who go in with our troops for the sake of corporate profit.

I want single payer. NOW
I want to expand Social Security
I want my children and grandchildren to be able to attend college FREE at state schools
I want the tax code rewritten so that corporations and billionaires pay their fair share of tax
I want Wall Street reined in and many of the worst of the rabble (Diamon, Blankfein) tried and imprisoned
I want NAFTA, CAFTA, TPP and the rest of the 'free trade' 'deals' that have fucked Americans for decades renegotiated so we can start bringing back GOOD jobs to the USA

I agree with virtually all Bernie's platform.

So yeah, I can imagine dismantling (or at least reducing and heightening oversight) on the CIA.

In short, fun, I am SERIOUS about MY government using MY tax dollars for programs that benefit ME AND MY FAMILY instead of funneling more and more of my money into corporate coffers.

And if you tell me 'we can't afford' these things, then I'll say maybe it is time to revoke the Fed's charter and begin printing our own money, and so pull the fangs of the international bankers. Because you know, if the national debt is money we owe to ourselves because we spent it on stuff we need, THEN WHY ARE WE PAYING BANKERS INTEREST ON IT??? We need to take our monetary policy AWAY from Citi and JP Morgan Chase, who have the biggest ownership of the Fed, and move it back into the hands of OUR government.

So there.

[fun n serious]

22. It all comes at a cost. I don't mean monetary. Much worse. nt

[PatrickforO]

23. Oh, like our SAFETY came at the cost of our FREEDOM per the Patriot Act?

That kind of cost? Because we live in a police state now, pretty much.

[fun n serious]

26. I am glad you are concerned.

Much of the enthusiasm for his candidacy is coming from college students and true believers who think the party establishment has been compromised. That was true of Barack Obama. It was also true of Ron Paul. Sanders' success will hinge on how much he can broaden his base beyond that comfort zone. Already he's become a frequent target of Black Lives Matter activists, who have argued that his ambitious platform for taking on economic inequality does not do enough to address the structural racism—in criminal justice, housing, and beyond—that perpetuates the prosperity gap. (Not long after a Seattle event was shut down by protestors, Sanders did unveil a racial justice platform.) If Sanders continues to perform as well as the polls suggest and he maintains his momentum through the upcoming debates, he might just inch the entire party, if not the country, just a few steps closer to Norway.

Which, if you think about it, does sound kind of crazy. But if Sanders had the audacity to think he might stay in the ring long enough to pull together a genuine movement, it might be because he's done it before. Sanders' early years offer a blueprint for how a self-described socialist can, with the right breaks and enough persistence, make it in electoral politics. He didn't emerge into a national political force overnight. He almost never made it at all. In Vermont he discovered it wasn't enough to hold lofty ideas and wait for the revolution; he had to learn how to play the political game.





BORN IN FLATBUSH, BROOKLYN, Bernie Sanders grew up in a working-class family. His father, a Polish immigrant whose family largely perished in the Holocaust, sold paint; his mother died when he was 18. When Sanders was a teen, his older brother, Larry—now an aspiring progressive politician in the United Kingdom—introduced him to Karl Marx and Sigmund Freud. By the time Sanders graduated from high school, where he ran for class president (and lost) on the promise of granting scholarships to Korean refugees, his political course was set.

[PatrickforO]

30. Yes, I am concerned. Very concerned.

But I'm a 57 year old economist who is tired of seeing the fruits of neoconservatism and neoliberalism rot the American dream.

You can call me a 'true believer,' I suppose, since I'm not a college kid. I will tell you one thing, though. I've never understood why wanting to help people, wanting workers to have good jobs with good benefits including livable pensions, kids to get good educations and not have to live in poverty - all those New Deal/Great Society things - is now an extreme political position.

Oh, I understand about the Powell memo, Reagan killing the Fairness Doctrine and the birth of the huge, erect, throbbing right wing propaganda organ that is Fox 'news' and hate-talk radio, and how this has brainwashed about 20% of our population with corporate goo. I understand why we all are expected to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps but slime like Diamon and Blankfein get to fleece taxpayers for $750 billion and our whole system is a big welfare handout for corporations. Yep, I understand all that.

But my question to you, to ALL of you is

WHY???????????????????

Why do we permit this evil to be perpetrated on us when we could make this a much, much better world for all if we just started caring about one another.

[questionseverything]

39. imagine if fractured interest benefited the 99

rather than the fed

[Gwhittey]

36. As a Hillary supporter you should be worried about FBI.

Just sayin.

[IllinoisLabour]

41. So...no more CIA overthrowing other countries' regimes?

That sounds good. I'm all for us no longer screwing around with other peoples' business!

[Punkingal]

11. People respect a person with integrity. Even some Republicans.

I read a very similar article to this on in The National Review a few months ago, but I didn't post it here because of the source. (I don't read the Review normally, just ran across it while doing a search.)

[fun n serious]

12. This link is Mother Jones nt

[7962]

38. You should find it & post it regardless.

If the article is accurate and not anywhere else, post it. If the whiners bitch about the "right wing source", so what. I only care if an article is TRUE!!

[retrowire]

13. ka slam!

I just made that word up. If anyone wants to use it, feel free to do so!

Ka-Slam!

[zentrum]

17. Wow. Great info. Thnx

[7962]

24. I've said many times, the GOP can only run "Socialist!" ads against Sanders,

while they could run dozens of different ads against HRC

[fun n serious]

28. This is not an ad. It's real and happening now. These are credible sources. Its been vetted.

[7962]

34. I dont know what you're getting at.

The OP is saying that even GOP senators say Sanders is an honest guy who many like. What I've been saying is that during the final campaign, the only thing the GOP can run against him is the Socialist tag & taxes. Because people think he's an honest guy even if they disagree with him.
Hillary, on the other hand, has many more targets to throw at. People DONT trust her, they think she's dishonest, they think shes bought, etc etc.

[Enthusiast]

33. Kicked and recommended to the Max!

[Uncle Joe]

35. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, snagglepuss.

[vintx]

37. I love his integrity

Thabks for posting this.