Hillary is capable of imploding.

[Motown_Johnny]

This whole Reagan nonsense is just one more example of it. Snipergate was another.


Sometimes she just goes off and talks about something that is pure fantasy. There are no trick questions involved. It is not "misspeaking", it is simply professing something that is contradictory to reality as if it were fact.


I know Clinton supporters have already forgiven her for this latest one. They forgive everything and anything that Hillary does. That doesn't change the fact that it is very dangerous to nominate this person. If she goes off on one of her rants during the General Election, that may do her in. It also may damage every other (D) running.

Supporting her is dangerous.

[grasswire]

1. That's the problem for someone who has lied for years.

I'm not sure she can separate truth from fiction any more.

A disaster for foreign policy.

[BernieforPres2016]

19. Compound that with a persecution complex

When your first reaction to fucking up is to assume that you didn't really fuck up, it is just your enemies attacking you again. Richard Nixon also had a persecution complex.

[grasswire]

25. good point

she's good at deflection

[dchill]

26. not that good evidently.

[Metric System]

2. So let's nominate the candidate who hasn't been vetted and never had to deal with pressures

of intense national spotlight!

[NWCorona]

8. Would you say that about Obama?

[morningfog]

10. They did say that about Obama! Lol.

[NWCorona]

12. Obviously not

That's why I asked duh

[morningfog]

13. No, I'm telling you they did in 08.

Hillary supporters used the same shit (and lost) against Obama that they are trying now. They don't get that Hillary is not likable or honest.

[NWCorona]

14. Dang sorry I misread

Gotta stop skimming

[Motown_Johnny]

9. Never had to deal with pressures? He has been running as a Democratic Socialist for 30 years.

It makes much more sense to nominate Bernie than someone who has proven she consistently goes off the rails.

[dchill]

27. OK by me!

[Scootaloo]

30. Hillary's campaign has been digging at him for almost a year now

Worst that they've been able to find are his Brady Bill vote and a 1973 satire piece. if there's one thing the Clinton machine isn't completely fucking incompetent at, it's digging up dirt. Well, so far that's all they've dug up on Bernie.

He's been vetted. By your own candidate. There's just no dirt there.

Seriously, maybe it's time to just accept that a rap sheet as long as Clinton's isn't a given.

[BillZBubb]

3. When you lie a lot like Hillary, you need a very good memory.

She doesn't have one. That's dangerous.

[Kall]

28. If you just tell the truth, you don't need a good memory.

But he has that too. Go Bernie.

[tk2kewl]

4. Inevitability?

[dchill]

29. I got your inevitability right here!

[Fumesucker]

5. The mass of Hillary's baggage will soon exceed the Chandrasekhar Limit

[Babel_17]

15. lol, that was worth googling so as to appreciate the apt metaphor

The Chandrasekhar Limit is now accepted to be approximately 1.4 times the mass of the sun; any white dwarf with less than this mass will stay a white dwarf forever, while a star that exceeds this mass is destined to end its life in that most violent of explosions: a supernova.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/blogs/physics/2012/01/the-chandrasekhar-limit-the-threshold-that-makes-life-possible/

[Motown_Johnny]

17. She wishes it could all form a black hole and dissappear

but information can never truly be lost.

[restorefreedom]

20. nicely done! worth the physics lesson nt

[Carlo Marx]

6. Vermont used to be a conservative state.

Do you really think a guy running as a socialist during the height of Cold War hysteria, with Reagan as president, wasn't attacked mercilessly? Even Howard Dean, as governor, was against Sanders. This guy has never had the easy track. Hell, there are still only 2 politicians in the US with the guts to self declare as socialists.

[nichomachus]

7. Washington couldn't tell a lie. Bush couldn't tell the truth.

Hillary can't tell the difference.

[morningfog]

11. Snort

[Babel_17]

16. "Hillary Clinton is the queen of unforced errors"

Hillary Clinton is the queen of unforced errors. In a Democratic debate last month, she proudly cited the praise of ghoulish war criminal Henry Kissinger, underlining every doubt that progressives harbor about her foreign policy. Today, she once again showed how politically tone-deaf she can be. On MSBNC, she offered the following baffling encomium for the late Nancy Reagan: “It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS back in the 1980s. And because of both President and Mrs. Reagan—in particular Mrs. Reagan—we started a national conversation.” Clinton credited Nancy with “very effective low-key advocacy” that “penetrated the public conscience.”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/03/11/hillary_clinton_praises_reagans_for_starting_a_national_conversation_about.html

[Motown_Johnny]

18. Her crazy opinions don't bother me as much as factual errors.

If she wants to worship at the alter of Henry Kissinger, that is one thing. I think it is nuts, but it boils down to being an opinion.


Claiming something happened that didn't, sniper fire or the Reagans starting a national conversation about HIV/AIDS, is different.


She has a right to her own opinion, not to her own facts.

[restorefreedom]

21. the implosion has already begun

the only question now is how quickly will it reach critical mass...how soon before the convention?

i am thinking april/may timeframe..this thing won't even get to june, much less the convention

[Babel_17]

24. When The Washington Post and The New York Times finally say "enough".

I have scant hopes in regards The Washington Post, but I'm nursing along some optimism for The New York Times.

They had a feature about the AIDS comment, and a prominent Editorial Board pronouncement that Secretary Clinton should release the transcripts from the Goldman Sachs speeches. They rejected her reasoning for not doing so. If the FBI report condemns her aides, and recommends indictments of some, and Clinton tries to portray the FBI investigators like her surrogates are portraying the President Obama appointed Inspectors General; I think then that the New York Times will talk openly about the advisability of her withdrawing from the race. They seem unwilling to tolerate a complete disconnect from reality.

If Secretary Clinton apologizes for her role, and more or less accepts whatever negativity she and her subordinates get from the FBI report (and it might be just a condemnation from the FBI, with no criminal recommendations), then, imo, she'll still not have crossed whatever arbitrary Rubicon the New York Times has established for her.

The political downside of apologizing is another story. And of course many on the Clinton side are desperate to see Senator Sanders out of the race by the time the report appears. Even then it would hang around her campaign's neck for the general election.

And it all could have been avoided. It was a matter of judgement.

Edit: I forgot to talk about the voters/public opinion saying "enough". That could happen within your timeline. People might get fed up with what they are seeing.

[restorefreedom]

33. yes, nyt has been back and forth

wapo is a lost cause

i think the nyt is trying to preserve themselves as a name to be taken seriously, and some within still believe in journalistic standards.

the bigger problem is having someone out there who constantly needs to apologize for what she says

[HereSince1628]

22. For Hillary all reality is a local, it's a resource to be shaped and used

When she is not there, trees do not fall in distant forests let alone make sounds as they do.

It's clear that she lives inside a reality that exudes from her perspective much like silk flows from a spider's spinnerets. She sits in the center of that web where global reality is communicated only as local vibrations on the threads of her locality

[Gwhittey]

23. vetted

investigate (someone) thoroughly, especially in order to ensure that they are suitable for a job requiring secrecy, loyalty, or trustworthiness

Someone who does not follow established guidelines for Classified items has been vetted and failed.

[tabasco]

31. Like another poster said: "How do you fuck up going to a funeral?"

But she did.

[merkins]

32. She'd probably appoint Brian Williams as her press secretary...