2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLarry Kramer Responds to Hillary Clinton’s Reagan AIDS Advocacy Gaffe
(Nancy) never said dipshit! And she oh please, dont get me started. She and Ronnie werent going to, in any way, talk about AIDS because they have a ballet dancer son whom the world believes to be gay and which they dont want to confront.
Im just so disappointed in her that I may just vote for Bernie. And Im hearing that from a lot of gay people. The gay population is up in arms over this. I dont think that she realizes that this is a big issue for us, what she has said in her stupidity.
I think the gay population is entitled to an apology and that we should demand an apology in return for our vote and support.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016/03/11/larry_kramer_responds_to_hillary_clinton_s_nancy_reagan_aids_advocacy_comments.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_top
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)It's friends family coworkers neighbors. And it's also people like me who lost a family member, a friend, a coworker to tainted blood. My uncle got a bad transfusion to combat hemophilia. He died at age 55.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)No matter what she does, she cannot take back what she said in the first place, for God knows what reason. I am not a Hillary fan, but she said something diametrically opposed to the truth. How do you do that without being held responsible for what you said.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)To spin any event to her advantage and it just went bad.
My Google news feed is filled with this gaffe.
JackBeck
(12,359 posts)"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes."
In this case, when someone who is prominent in the Democratic Party "misspeaks", what she says gets disseminated long and wide before any retraction gets crafted and released.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)SamKnause
(13,087 posts)You sound like you are sad and upset that you might vote for the only honest candidate.
I am confused as to why you would ever support Hillary.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)n/t
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)in 1985- it saved my life I'm sure. It was the news, and the news was unbearable.
JackBeck
(12,359 posts)The Normal Heart is a masterpiece and I was fortunate enough to see the Broadway revival a few years ago. Will probably never weep like that in public ever again.
The Rage. Anger. Agitation. Accountability. Art. Activism and Advocacy.
Collectively, lead to the Change.
But the apologia from those on this board that want us to accept Clinton's claim that she simply "misspoke" and we should all just move along? They would be laughed out of any ACT-UP meeting. We're fortunate that these were not our leaders during the dark, early days.
Could you imagine Larry giving Ed Koch a pass just because he was a Democrat?
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Good God she's for doma and dadt and against gay marriage on religious grounds (humorous given her marital situation). This praise of Nancy Reagan to scoop up a few more republican votes is just basic pandering - comparative peanuts.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)that's the entire point of the OP. Do you know who Kramer is? Look him up.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Laughing Mirror
(4,185 posts)Proves she wasn't paying attention during the AIDS Reagan years.
I never thought she deserved my gay vote or support and could never understand why any other gay person would either.
Larry, if it is the first time you've questioned your vote for her, I would say, better late than never. Why should she apologize? She doesn't care about us. Except our money and our votes.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)"I think the gay population is entitled to an apology and that we should demand an apology in return for our vote and support."
Yes, gay people are entitled to a BIG apology.
No, that apology isn't enough by far to earn out votes and support. She may well have forfeited those anyway. The apology is about doing the right thing. Not about electoral advantage.
If Mr. Kramer thinks that apologies are just political currency, he is almost as stupid and clueless as Clinton.