Yes, in the 2008 Dem primaries, I posted harsh things about Hillary.

[Yavin4]

It's easy to find them and re-post, but here's the thing. That was in 2008. That was before she gave a speech at the convention endorsing Obama when she could have burned the house down. She got over it. Obama got over it, and I got over it. It's called being a mature, adult human being. Why should I carry around hate when the guy that I supported forgave her and welcomed her into his cabinet. In fact, she has been more supportive of Obama since 2008 than Bernie Sanders has.

Forgiveness, reconciliation, learning to overcome differences in order to work together, these are all good life skills to have.

[Scootaloo]

1. So your opinion was just meaningless campaign rhetoric?

[revbones]

3. Ooooooh. Good point. nt

[Yavin4]

4. Using your logic Obama is a hypocrit as well?

Right?

[Scootaloo]

7. Can't answer the question, I see.

[Yavin4]

11. No. It was a reaction to her hard campaign during 2008.

She eventually conceded. Endorsed Obama. She got over it. He got over it. I got over it.

Does that answer your question?

[Scootaloo]

13. Your criticism was only due to her campaign?

I don't see any sign that she got over it. She's worked to undermine him frequently. For his part, he's a politician who saw the value of stepping around the swamp.

I said a lot of harsh stuff against Clinton in 2008. And I'm saying it now too. because I mean every word of it. She's a bad candidate, she's a bad politician, and the more I see, the more i', certain she's full-on a bad person.

[revbones]

9. On some things, yes.

I don't hero-worship. I have principles. When the president does something wrong, I don't try to cover for it. I disagree with him on many things. If you can't see anything wrong with a president, then perhaps the fault is with you.

That's the diff with Hillary supporters, they seem to have a hero they worship. Bernie supporters back him because of his principles.

[ibegurpard]

8. yup

[revbones]

2. When has the loser not endorsed the party nominee?

Plus, she would have had to if she had any hope of running again.

[Yavin4]

5. Ted Kennedy 1980. n/t

[revbones]

6. Did he run for president again?

Didn't think so.

[Yavin4]

12. John Anderson 1980

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Anderson

[Bluenorthwest]

17. A Republican who went independent. He was never a candidate in our Party which is the Democratic

Party. Lest you forget while wandering to the right.

[Yavin4]

19. That wasn't the question.

The question was: "When has the loser not endorsed the party nominee?"

Answer: John Anderson 1980.

[840high]

36. She knew. That's why she didn't rock

the boat.

[Fumesucker]

10. And now other people should not say harsh things about Hillary because she is your candidate?

[Yavin4]

14. People are free to do whatever they want. I'm explaining my position.

That is all.

[Fumesucker]

16. Man is not a rational animal

Man is an animal that rationalizes...

[Bluenorthwest]

15. You use extreme, higly certain language about opposing points of view this will cost you credibility

that's the price many are paying for wallowing in hyped up rhetoric that distracts from real business and does harm to the issues at hand. What do you want, free stuff? To say both one thing and the other, to have that cake and eat it too? Double standards for you?
You criticize other people for saying things about Hillary when you said much,much worse and that's just bogus hypocrisy.

Your words here are public record and I have a great memory. You should remember both things when deciding to make AIDS your partisan fodder.

[Yavin4]

18. So, one can never change their opinions ever without being in-authentic?

My bad. I thought that's what Republicans do. Lock in their opinions forever.

[Bluenorthwest]

27. is that what I said? No, it's not. This snarky routine does nothing to advance your sincerity or

honesty. You have chosen to present yourself as suitable and trustworthy judge on a very important issue you seek to dismiss that issue and so your consistency and credibility become valid to look at. You picked up this Reagan AIDS story as if you were an authority. I asked you questions you failed to answer. So I posted examples of the trashing you did to Hillary in 08 because it demonstrates how things you say are all about your momentary agenda and not about facts truth or what you will say later on.
Also, you whine and complain about people being critical of Hillary. Although you yourself denigrated her tirelessly and vilely. That's bogus hypocrisy.
Wow, The Hillary Hate Is Becoming Intense on this Forum
"Reads like Free Republic some times.

After Bernie won N.H., folks on this forum were starting to say that it was over for Hillary, and then she won NV and is way ahead in S.C. Now, the hate comes.

This is why progressivism is not further along in America. Progressives worship individual leaders, not causes. As a contrast, the GBLT community, the only truly successful progressive movement in the past 10 years, pursued a cause, not a particular leader. Marriage equality and the end of the military ban, were both successful without a major leader leading the way.

Tying up your hopes and dreams into one political campaign and then acting like petulant children when that particular leader fails sets back the progressive cause."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511335314

[DefenseLawyer]

20. So had she not endorsed Obama you would still be against her?

That's a weird criterion for deciding a candidate is qualified, but hey, it's a free country.

[Yavin4]

21. If Obama could get over her 2008 campaign, then why couldn't I?

He embraced her. He made her his Sec of State. He moved on, and so did I.

[DefenseLawyer]

24. i understand. So the opposite is true also?

Despite everything else, if she hadn't endorsed Obama you would not vote for her. Am I understanding that correctly?

[Chan790]

22. In 2008, I also posted harsh things about Hillary.

I meant them then...and I still mean them now.

[NurseJackie]

23. Great post.

[Omaha Steve]

25. She didn't burn the house down because he promised her SOS

That is the only reason.

[riversedge]

33. OS is making up stuff and passing it on as if it is true. ha ha

[Omaha Steve]

39. PROVE IT!

[Kalidurga]

26. 2008 was so long ago...

And I was not a member at DU, so I didn't post here. I did talk to people in real life though and I was hoping she would lose the nomination to Obama. Now, I hope she loses to Bernie and she fades into history.

[Bluenorthwest]

28. So when you trash talk Bernie we can know it's just talk and any minute you might endorse him.....

nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

29. We know. You "evolved".

[riversedge]

30. GREAT post and it took courage to post it. Thank you.

[Jitter65]

32. Very nice. nt

[Yavin4]

38. Thank you for the support. n/t

[NWCorona]

31. I'm sure Hillary will endorse Bernie and they will both get over it too

The time for unity will come after the primary.

[Barack_America]

34. I too said harsh things about Hillary in 2008.

And I 100% stand behind them today. I welcome anyone to post I said.

Sorry you don't feel the same. You were right back then.

[Warren DeMontague]

35. It's important that we remember who the REAL enemy is, of course.

Namely, "berniebros".

[aikoaiko]

37. Same person with the same character. Character doesn't change.

If Obama's opinion of HRC means so much to you, remember that he had two chances to declare that she was fit to assume the presidency by being his VP.