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Persondem

(1,936 posts)
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 10:33 PM Mar 2016

Bernie's 1.2 trillion dollar boondoggle

Apparently principles have a price.

"Sen. Bernie Sanders has railed against big defense corporations at rallies, but he has a more complex history with the military-industrial complex. Most notably, he’s supported a $1.2 trillion stealth fighter that’s considered by many to be one of the bigger boondoggles in Pentagon history."

"When it has come time to choose between defense jobs and a dovish defense policy Sanders has consistently chosen to stand with the arms-makers rather than the peaceniks."

Partnering up with the MIC is ok, if the MIC throws you a bone or two.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/09/bernie-sanders-loves-this-1-trillion-war-machine.html

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djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Doesn't cancel out Hillary's propensity for war. Sorry.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 10:46 PM
Mar 2016

Even if I was a single-issue supporter, this would not even make a tiny dent in my distaste for and fear of Hillary's hawkishness.
And since I am not a single-issue supporter, this is even more meaningless.

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
3. More info on Sanders and the f-35
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 05:39 PM
Mar 2016

" the Vermont Independent has had plenty of opportunities to buck the system as a U.S. Senator. He has not always taken those opportunities, instead siding with big corporations at the expense of the taxpayer.

Nowhere is this more evident than his unwavering support for one of the biggest boondoggles in U.S. military history: the F-35."

"... the lifetime cost will hover somewhere around $1.5 trillion (yes, that’s a “t”). For reference, with that money we could buy Australia, a mansion for every homeless person in America, or better yet, provide free college tuition for the next ten years for all Americans."

http://bluenationreview.com/bernie-sanders-backs-f-35/

That is exactly how Sanders could pay for his free college idea .. but then he would have to stop supporting the F-35.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
6. You should watch the
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 05:59 PM
Mar 2016

last episode of Vice and see what the Saudis are doing in Yemen bombing civilians. After that research how they donated to the Clinton Foundation and when Hillary was SoS voila she fast tracked jets to the Saudi government.

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
8. Seeings how Bernie is BFF with the MIC and particularly with companies that make figter jets
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:01 PM
Mar 2016

he's probably ok with the Saudis getting some of our jets.

As if we are really not going to help out the Saudis. Get real.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
13. How is he "BFF with the MIC"? How much money did he take from the mic?
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:10 PM
Mar 2016

We know Hillary has ties, perhaps you can give us the inside scoop on Bernie Sanders?

Defense Industry Embraces Democrats, Hillary By Far The Favorite
May 25, 2011

The defense industry this year abandoned its decade-long commitment to the Republican Party, funneling the lion share of its contributions to Democratic presidential candidates, especially to Hillary Clinton who far out-paced all her competitors.

An examination of contributions of $500 or more, using the Huffington Post's Fundrace website, shows that employees of the top five arms makers - Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop-Grumman, Raytheon and General Dynamics -- gave Democratic presidential candidates $103,900, with only $86,800 going to Republicans.

Senator Clinton took in $52,600, more than half of the total going to all Democrats, and a figure equaling 60 percent of the sum going to the entire GOP field. Her closest competitor for defense industry money is former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney (R.), who raised $32,000.

Insofar as defense workers making political donations reflect the interests of their employers, the contributions clearly suggest that the arms industry has reach the conclusion that Democratic prospects for 2008 are very good indeed. Since their profits are so heavily dependent on government contracts, companies in this field want to be sure they do not have hostile relations with the White House

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/defense-industry-embraces_n_68927.html

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
7. I haven't read that link yet but I am familiar with the subject
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 06:00 PM
Mar 2016

This is one thing that I do disagree with Bernie on. I think it's time to mothball this airframe but I'm cognizant of why that is easier said than done.

FYI, Bernie is on record for having a strong military. The strongest in the world. He just wants someone with the proper judgement behind the controls.

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