2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary has answered one important question today
With the Reagan/AIDS nonsense.
If she will pander like this when she's on the campaign trail, in full sight, and where every word is being recorded, just imagine how she pandered when giving secret speeches to banksters who were paying her hundreds of thousands of dollars specifically to pander to them.
Now we know why she won't release the transcripts. It would end her campaign in about five minutes.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,308 posts)Little Star
(17,055 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)go on....
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Jackilope
(819 posts)... telling them to "cut that out!"
"911!"
"Squirrel! "
You know damn well she told them what they wanted to hear. Assurances that they shouled and can sleep with a clear conscience and inspiration to carry on and that she will be no threat.
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...she told them, "Pasta!"
TYY
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)is Bullshit!
Anyone who was not comatose in the '80s was VERY aware that the Reagans said NOTHING, did NOTHING, even when their friend Rock Hudson was dying of AIDS and asked them to do something. It is NOT a simple error that she said what she said. It was calculated. She still lives in the old world where no one really fact-checks anything, where what you say is preserved forever on the internet.
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Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)It's not something I had to look up.
Then again, my mother and grandmother were nurses. The AIDS epidemic was something my family was intimately aware of.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Even if she'd spent the entire decade in a convent, she's had plenty of time since then to learn what a shitty job the Reagan Administration did of responding to the AIDS crisis. There have been books and movies and she's supposedly a policy wonk. The idea that she somehow got this false impression (where?) that the Reagans should be praised in any way for anything to do with AIDS strains credulity.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)that settles that.
Thank for your insightful, formidable, and compelling rebuttal.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)That's pretty expensive bullshit, if you ask me.
Old Crow
(2,212 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)"I'm not sure what Nancy Reagan did. I was too busy busting unions for Walmart."
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)In a sense, Hillary has done for Wall Street what "Mommy" did for Hollywood. She could've been better than Nancy, but unfortunately, she set her sights too high.
NJCher
(35,435 posts)That somewhere in NJ in the middle of the night, an insomniac, reading on an iPad, burst out laughing, earning a round of yawns from the cats on the bed.
Cher
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)MellowDem
(5,018 posts)makes me so angry. It's not that she is straight up ignorant, she intentionally lies about this shit to pander to whatever audience she has. I don't trust her at all.
And this is who the Democraric Party is championing, I can't respect her, I don't respect the party, I have no enthusiasm at all for someone like this, just a fear of the right.
I fucking hate that I will have to vote for her, because I get no other choice in the general election.
All of mainstream media and all of the establishment and elites will coo over this, they love rewriting history to make our past leaders look more palatable. And with the cancellation of Trump's rally, Clinton will no doubt take on the voice of "moderation", the grown up in the room willing to fuck over the powerless for political expediency. And her apologists make me even angrier, trying to make excuses for this awful, disgusting display.
Expect another 8 years of the same, getting fucked by corporate America, because we're going to get some brand of conservative no matter what.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)They have big plans to privatize the commons. They also have new bigger (more profitable) wars planned.
jalan48
(13,798 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)She no longer has core beliefs, or if she does, she has completely suppressed them. All she knows now is how to assess the prevailing political winds and align herself accordingly.
Chef Eric
(1,024 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)jalan48
(13,798 posts)Z_California
(650 posts)Nailed it.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)She probably sings Reagans praises to Goldman Sachs.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)It's not even a pander. Whointhehell was she pandering *to*???? I am totally baffled.
NJCher
(35,435 posts)She's not getting the independents, so she's pandering to the republicans who can't stomach Trump. There are a lot of them. There was even a story on the news about that segment of the electorate today.
If the so-called news has recognized that segment, you can be sure that she, with her millions from her Super-Pac, had market researchers working on what segments of the vote she might be able to gain. Now that it is a recognized number, it's pandering time.
She is shameless to the point that I am thinking she is mentally ill, and I am not the only one.
Cher
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)She thinks praising Nancy Reagan *specifically* with regard to AIDS will accomplish that? Really? Maybe there's something about Republicans I don't understand...
NJCher
(35,435 posts)should tell you something's not right about their thinking process.
Cher
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)in that respect, only many more were lost to Aids/HIV. Nancy Reagan and Ronald Reagan were and remain hated for that attempted genocide. That Hilary spoke this should inform every thinking person just as it diminishes every person remembered in that quilt.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)as the transcripts would be. Maybe not in numbers of people yet, jumping off her bandwagon, but I have a feeling that number will multiply as more people hear about it.
I do think the transcripts will surface eventually. Probably the same way Mittens' 47%er audio was disclosed... via a caterer or wait-staff person of some kind.
And then there are those emails.
But yes, I completely agree with your logic. That's exactly how I see it too. I wouldn't trust her as far as I can throw her.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Also: F*ck homophobia, in all its ugly manifestations, and F*ck indifference, whichever party affiliation it has.