Cancellation: Do Bernie supporters want credit or not tonight?

[JohnnyLib2]

I'm seeing both cheering and disowning of the Trump shut-down on good old DU tonight. Clarification is needed.

[Cheese Sandwich]

1. This is not the sort of thing where everybody has to agree.

-my 2 cents opinion
I don't see what there is to clarify.

[Jitter65]

69. What a way to bring people together. nt

[daleanime]

77. Sorry, most of us like to leave the divisive stuff to the pro's....

she gets paid enough to do it. Make sure you have a lovely day.

[H2O Man]

76. Right

[berningman]

2. i vote credit

[Barack_America]

59. Yes!

[Kalidurga]

3. I don't know or care what the majority wants.

Hillary supporters want credit though that seems clear enough.

[JohnnyLib2]

17. ?

[Kalidurga]

21. There are a few Hillary supporters and even some Bernie supporters

who want more proof than the crowd chanting Bernie to prove it was in fact Bernie supporters. Some go so far as to say that there were some Hillary supporters there too.

[Person 2713]

32. This is Chicago there were so many groups organizing to protest all week

Young old rainbow coalition of protestors You bet some are for Clinton but it was at a university where obviously there is a lot of Bernie supporters. Some of the protestors probably never vote

[Kalidurga]

33. Yeah that's fine I am sure some won't vote

But, counting on young people not voting didn't go so well for Hillary in Michigan.

[Person 2713]

41. I was not thinking about Bernie vs Clinton or young people . I was thinking of the

disenfranchised in general, who fear life getting worse with Trump types getting stronger . This was their "vote"
You may not understand

[Kalidurga]

51. I understand what happened in Michigan.

[Person 2713]

54. I am talking about people who understand what is going on in their neighborhood everyday

and it would only get worse as Trump gets bigger. They are fighting racism and are not concerned about a democratic primary

[Kalidurga]

66. you can read their minds and know if they are going to vote or not, well that's good to know.

[Person 2713]

67. Yes I know some that never vote but they got on the el today to go protest Trump

oh and some there can not vote which again, I think you may not understand

[LuvLoogie]

68. You're being obtuse.

The people protesting tonight were CHICAGOANS, some of which are Hillary, Bernie, BLM, Dreamers... But mostly CHICAGOANS first, who were telling Trump to get out of town with that shit.

[Kalidurga]

71. So

And you think they won't vote or don't care or whatever. I really don't care. They did what they did. Pretending they just did that in a vacuum is funny none the less.

[Scootaloo]

4. The protestors deserve all the credit

Bernie supporters, not-Bernie-Supporters alike.

Yes, it's credit. They'e brave men and women.

[Fairgo]

27. I vote with you!

This is a coalition of people who want to be heard. And I stand with them, whoever they are!

[TM99]

5. Only a small portion appear to be

Sanders supporters. There were faculty members, students, BLM members, communist party members, and a large contingent of MoveOn supporters.

There is nothing to clarify.

[Luminous Animal]

8. Exactly. And proud of all of them. So damn proud.

[TM99]

13. Me too!

I feel this way about them like I do those bikers that counter protest Westboro Church during funerals.

[artislife]

35. Yes!

When you stand against hate, it is the best thing for society.

I am happy they pushed back on this free rein of vile coming from the Trump campaign and supporters.

[Skwmom]

18. I think there were some establishment RNC supporters there also. n/t

[DamnYankeeInHouston]

19. MoveOn supports Bernie.

[TM99]

45. MoveOn does indeed endorse Sanders

but their activism goes well beyond that endorsement.

[virtualobserver]

25. an anti-Trump coalition

[Alfresco]

72. Lots of berners...

[TM99]

79. That you support Trump

over a fellow Democrat where some of the protesters were indeed his supporter is all I need to know.

Why I haven't put you on Ignore previously I just don't know.

Bye bye!

[Luminous Animal]

6. I'll take credit and give kudos to my sisters and brothers for being part of a larger movement

of shutting the fascist down.

[noretreatnosurrender]

7. We don't walk in lockstep

I know it's hard to believe but we all have independent thoughts. And why are you in such a hurry to get people to make a decision before all of the facts are known? hmmmm?

[malthaussen]

9. Pretty odious question, IMO.

Are we playing a game, then?

-- Mal

[HuckleB]

10. Exactly.

[JohnnyLib2]

15. No, there seems to be a range of thought on the matter.

How to handle the threat of a Trump presidency is my main concern.

[OhioBlue]

39. Mine too.

I am tempted to register R on Tuesday to vote for Kasich. I'm fine with either dem nominee at this point. Trump is a serious threat to our country. An R president would suck and set us back a decade, but Trump... he will set us back a century. I just hope for a brokered convention to destroy the R party and then work to elect whomever is our nominee.

[Fairgo]

34. I like this space, I like your thought

Its refreshing to leave the intermural snark fest and contemplate something truly confrontational. Maybe raise the level of discourse around here.

[Avalux]

11. The protesters were exercising their rights given to them by the constitution.

No matter how others try to spin it that it was wrong for them to be there, and that they infringed on Trump's freedom of speech.

This is the exact same shit that went down in Germany. The idea is to make everyone afraid of the minorities and elect the strongman to keep them self. No protesting allowed.

Stay home and be apathetic, and demonize the protesters.

I know which side I'm on.

[TwilightGardener]

12. I'm not into a rally protest/shutdown if it plays into tRump's hands.

I'm not a speech or rally-disrupting kind of person in general, though.

[Luminous Animal]

22. Every single one of his racist rallies should have decent human beings SHUTTING IT DOWN.

[NWCorona]

14. When the crowd start chanting Bernie

I felt so happy!

[Skwmom]

16. To try to paint it as just Bernie supporters is false and begs the question why? Of course I think

we know the answer.

[Metric System]

20. I've seen Sanders supporters arguing about it in DU. Some want the credit and others are

worrying about blowback.

[Luminous Animal]

29. Yeah. I saw the concern trolls, too.

AS IF, there is any possibility that an actual Bernie supporter would fret about Bernie supporters protesting against Trump.

As if there could be any blowback for protesting against Trump.

Sadly disappointed that there was no Hillary supporters there.,

[artislife]

38. ^^^This.

And as if we all will see it only one way.

We all seem to hate the HATE. Which is good.

[restorefreedom]

23. the protesters, whoever they are, don't like trump. there ya go :) nt

[basselope]

24. I don't believe Bernie would approve...

So I don't think "credit" should be taken.

[HereSince1628]

26. I agree. Sanders wants a revolution in political thinking, not riots.

[Luminous Animal]

31. Bernie would not approve a peaceful protest against a bigot?

[Luminous Animal]

37. What riot.

[Person 2713]

43. Yeah not it was a riot

[dana_b]

40. Here is what he said on his FB page:

"We do things a little different in this campaign: We bring people together. No, we are not gonna hate Mexicans. We are not gonna hate Muslims. We are not gonna insult women. We are not gonna insult veterans. We’re not gonna insult African-Americans. We will not allow the Donald Trumps of the world to divide us up. If we do not allow them to divide us up by race, by sexual orientation, by gender, by whether we were born in America or whether we are immigrants—when we stand together as white, black, Hispanic, gay, straight, women and men—when we stand together and demand that this country works for all of us rather than the few, we will transform America. That's what we are going to do: We are going to bring our people TOGETHER."

So he didn't claim credit nor disavow the protest. I like what he said.

[dana_b]

28. lol... I wanted to be sure that it was indeed Bernie supporters

and it looks like it was in combination with people from Occupy/BLM.

Sure! I think what they did was brave and very righteous.

[amborin]

30. don't think Bernie would endorse it; the way to protest and win is at the voting booth; this can

play into Trump's hands; he's a master manipulator and the MSM is against Bernie;

[PowerToThePeople]

36. Uh, we are not a hive mind.

[JohnnyLib2]

44. Sorry, you lost me.

[m-lekktor]

42. SO are we all required to think alike? does it bother you there are differing opinions amongst us?

are you just trying to stir shit?

[JohnnyLib2]

48. Not bothered; but

Trying for a sense of where the campaigns are heading.

[Logical]

46. I don't like protestors stopping trump or Hillary or Bernie. Nt

[dana_b]

47. Hillary and Bernie aren't spewing hate speech against minorities n/t

[Logical]

49. So a anti-abortion person can shut down Hillary? Storm the stage?

[seattleite]

50. There are a variety of opinions on this issue

And this is not a helpful discussion for anyone to have.

[JohnnyLib2]

56. I think it's unavoidable.

There are many more Trump events for months ahead. Democrats will react, one way or another.

[IsItJustMe]

52. Truth be told

Trump shut it down. Him and him alone. The Chicago Police told him that he could continue with his rally and that they would take care of it. Honestly, I think Trump knew that there were hundreds of protestors in that crowd, and that if he got up there and told his supporters to take them out, there would be absolutely serious results. Trump chickened out.

[Arazi]

53. I don't think we have near enough info to make a judgement

Who really promoted this and why?

There's even reasonable evidence Trump manufactured this himself

I'm waiting til some facts come in before I prematurely agree or condemn

[Trajan]

55. Are we the Borg?

Get a grip

[ornotna]

58. Depends who you ask

Some on this board sure think so.

But I get your point.

[JohnnyLib2]

63. Odd term, but obviously not!

[jillan]

57. Hate to break it to you but Bernie supporters are not from Stepford. We are individuals with

individual thoughts.
Some people are proud.
Some are concerned.
Some want these protests to remain peaceful.

[JohnnyLib2]

60. Well, good!

[AgerolanAmerican]

61. I do not

This opens the door to many bad things, not the least of which is having hostile parties crash our rallies.

Shutting down opposition rallies is not compatible with free and fair elections.

I shudder to think of the consequences if this tactic is validated.

[Avalux]

64. So do you agree with Trump, that the protesters should be punished?

In case you need a civics lesson - protesting is a right given to us by the Constitution. Once that's taken away, we're fucked. That's what Trump wants to do. Maybe he'll start telling people to bring guns to his rallies.

[joshcryer]

62. If I could've been there I would've.

Trump is freaking Hitler.

[TheFarS1de]

65. I think it was a group effort

[Waiting For Everyman]

70. I'll pass. This Bernie supporter wants no credit for that.

I believe in the First Amendment and freedom of speech, even speech I don't like.

[Alfresco]

73. am kick

[NurseJackie]

74. It's difficult to tell, isn't it?

and

[noamnety]

75. Can we stop with the stereotyping/monolithic bullshit for just one day?

All protesters are not Bernie supporters.
All Bernie supporters are not for the protests.
All Bernie supporters are not against the protests.
All black people do not support Hillary.
All black people do not support Bernie.
All women do not support Hillary.
All women do not support Bernie.

In a similar vein:
All muslims do not hate America.
All poor people are not lazy.
etc.

[JohnnyLib2]

80. Yes, the replies show the range of differences.

And quite a testy flavor, for whatever reason.

[noamnety]

81. I'm guessing the reason

is because the OP seems deliberately obtuse, as does this post.

Pray tell: what is the reason that "clarification is needed"? Who needs it? And for what purpose?

[JohnnyLib2]

82. I'm a curious guy. Anyway, that was last night. Trump is rolling on in Ohio.

[Alfresco]

78. They deserve the credit. :-)

[whatchamacallit]

83. Not sure how to take credit for something I had no knowledge of or participation in

So no I guess.