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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:36 PM Mar 2016

MSNBC: Amazing how Clinton Townhall is once against AFTER Bernie.

But then again, she wouldn't be able to lie about him without him being given a chance to respond.

Bernie has NEVER went after Hillary. Isn't that amazing....

What a dog and pony show.....

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MSNBC: Amazing how Clinton Townhall is once against AFTER Bernie. (Original Post) Skwmom Mar 2016 OP
That's because Bernie chooses to go first. Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #1
We've heard that before with NO confirmation. Skwmom Mar 2016 #2
Exactly. revbones Mar 2016 #3
We can confirm that Bernie Sanders has never complained, right? brooklynite Mar 2016 #43
Is someone implying there is a conspiracy? LOL. The DNC and Corp-Media's treatment rhett o rick Mar 2016 #10
They've kind of over used conspiracy and are now starting to use paranoia. Skwmom Mar 2016 #13
I smell desperation. nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #15
Back in the day Herman's Hermits NowSam Mar 2016 #4
That meme is getting old. When you have an opponent who will LIE about you it is ALWAYS good to have Skwmom Mar 2016 #5
The Who were pissed they had to follow Hendrix at Monterey Pop. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #6
I loved Herman's Hermits. redwitch Mar 2016 #7
That's like when Led Zeppelin was the opening act Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #37
Political propaganda ploys rely heavily on the notion of last heard, first remembered. But Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #8
It is really pissing off some young Bernie voters that I know. They embrace those antiquated Skwmom Mar 2016 #14
Poor Bernie, it's not like he can't demand to go 2nd gwheezie Mar 2016 #9
You don't know what you're talking about - eom dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #11
Sen Sanders will go first, third or last. When you are telling the truth, the order doesn't rhett o rick Mar 2016 #12
Is this the one on Monday UglyGreed Mar 2016 #16
Yes, Bernie will now do a one hour town hall with Chuck Todd BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #18
Thank you UglyGreed Mar 2016 #19
If Bernie would have just answered the question, Tweety would not have had to riversedge Mar 2016 #32
fake questions in 2007: amborin Mar 2016 #17
Every townhall has been a dog and pony show. It's obvious she knows the questions. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #22
Her answers sound memorized, not extemporaneous to many questiions shei isasked JDPriestly Mar 2016 #28
Seriously? MrWendel Mar 2016 #20
I give a shit b/c I am SICK of her lying and Bernie not being able to respond. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #21
This... MrWendel Mar 2016 #23
That is not equal opportunity- that is stacking the deck. Skwmom Mar 2016 #25
How? MrWendel Mar 2016 #26
ha ha. poor Bernie. You make him out to be such a victim. riversedge Mar 2016 #30
Yeah... MrWendel Mar 2016 #33
I would serve up some cheese with the OP whine but alas, my riversedge Mar 2016 #35
This... MrWendel Mar 2016 #38
I thought all Democrats wanted equality. Seems some missed the boat. riversedge Mar 2016 #34
Some seem to have forgotten what that means. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #36
it just shows the screaming weakness of a candidate restorefreedom Mar 2016 #27
Good points JDPriestly Mar 2016 #29
thx. sad ones, too. the dems are done like dinner if they put her up. nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #31
Bernie has preferred to go first, at least for some thesquanderer Mar 2016 #39
Re: deepestblue Mar 2016 #24
So petty......n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #40
7pm? That's Cake Wars! Its Got Electrolytes Mar 2016 #41
Does it even matter? Myrina Mar 2016 #42
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
1. That's because Bernie chooses to go first.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:38 PM
Mar 2016

Stop trying to imply there's some kind of conspiracy.

It's embarassing.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
10. Is someone implying there is a conspiracy? LOL. The DNC and Corp-Media's treatment
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:08 PM
Mar 2016

of Sen Sanders is obvious. No insinuations necessary. All we have to do is point.


Big Citizens United Money that backs Clinton also own mega think tanks and that's all they do is conspire.

The billionaires will do everything in their power to keep a progressive out of the WH.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
13. They've kind of over used conspiracy and are now starting to use paranoia.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:14 PM
Mar 2016

A lot has been exposed this election cycle.

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
4. Back in the day Herman's Hermits
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:41 PM
Mar 2016

and the Rolling Stones shared billing for a live show in London. Herman's Hermits insisted on closing the show since they were the bigger name in record sales. The Stones said, "Whatever." The Stones proceeded to drive the crowd into a frenzy and when the Stones finished they left and so did the audience...and that was the end of Herman's Hermits.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
5. That meme is getting old. When you have an opponent who will LIE about you it is ALWAYS good to have
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:44 PM
Mar 2016

the last word.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
37. That's like when Led Zeppelin was the opening act
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 06:32 PM
Mar 2016

for Spirit and Vanilla Fudge in Denver in December 1968. I only remember Zep.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
8. Political propaganda ploys rely heavily on the notion of last heard, first remembered. But
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:58 PM
Mar 2016

those that deploy such propaganda ploys inevitably reveal their bias in the process.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
14. It is really pissing off some young Bernie voters that I know. They embrace those antiquated
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:15 PM
Mar 2016

notions of fairness.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
9. Poor Bernie, it's not like he can't demand to go 2nd
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:02 PM
Mar 2016

I mean, if they say Bernie you have to go 1st again I quess he just says, shucks I quess I just have to.
This is where maybe trump can help him with negotiations skills Bernie can start small learning to negotiate for something small, like who goes 1st at a townhall and work his way up to learning how to negotiate with Congress to get single payer
I believe Bernie is skilled enough to have gotten to go 2nd if he really wanted to. You don't give him enough credit for having some skill in negotiating with opponents.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
12. Sen Sanders will go first, third or last. When you are telling the truth, the order doesn't
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:11 PM
Mar 2016

matter. Clinton is always trying for the edge, the advantage because her message is weak.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
16. Is this the one on Monday
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:17 PM
Mar 2016

and Bernie will be there?? The way I heard Tweety talk about it the other day he made it seem it was only with Hillary never mentioned Bernie. Also I found this on KOS just now...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/12/1500168/-Tell-MSNBC-NO-ELECTION-EVE-HILLARY-INFOMERCIAL-ON-HARDBALL-3-14-16-Call-or-Text-424-353-2016

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
18. Yes, Bernie will now do a one hour town hall with Chuck Todd
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:29 PM
Mar 2016

The hour before Hillary does one with Tweety. I'm looking forward to seeing if Tweety will spend one segment shouting over Hillary "But how are you going to get 60 votes??? But how are you going to get 60 votes???" like he did with Bernie. But then again, it's not really apparent what Hillary's agenda would be as President so it's a less relevant question.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
19. Thank you
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:33 PM
Mar 2016

for the info I did not know that Of course Tweety's wife depends on how nice he treats Hillary so I'm sure it will different from Bernie's interrogation.

riversedge

(70,087 posts)
32. If Bernie would have just answered the question, Tweety would not have had to
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 06:18 PM
Mar 2016

ask him several times. All that for Bernie's response--we need a Revolution.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
28. Her answers sound memorized, not extemporaneous to many questiions shei isasked
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 06:12 PM
Mar 2016

She sounds like shehas rehearseed a lot
.

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
23. This...
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 05:56 PM
Mar 2016

really makes you wake up in a cold sweat and keeps you up at night that Hillary has an equal opportunity at a town hall like Bernie does?

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
33. Yeah...
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

He desperately needs a handicap. Hillary should do the right thing and bow out so Bernie can get back into the race. That what this op seems to be saying.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
27. it just shows the screaming weakness of a candidate
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 06:06 PM
Mar 2016

that needs to be propped up by the party, the corporate media, and wall street who STILL is barely ahead of bernie in delegstes, has lost momentum, and is being out fundraised by bernie.


if she is the nom, we are burnt toast in the ge


thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
39. Bernie has preferred to go first, at least for some
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 09:10 AM
Mar 2016

At one of the recent town halls, it was made clear that it was Bernie's preference.

I think the strategy is that, the other way around, some people would tune out after Hillary and not watch him, whereas if they are setting in to watch Hillary, they will almost certainly see at least the end section of his part.

It would also be interesting to see whether there's any pattern in terms of ratings, i.e. whether people tend to drift away by the last half hour, or in a given forum, one half is up against stiffer competition on other channels.

Point is... going 2nd isn't always better, even if it does give you the advantage of getting the last word (or preventing your opponent from getting the last word). If your goal is to reach as many people as possible, there may be advantages to the reverse.

deepestblue

(349 posts)
24. Re:
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 06:01 PM
Mar 2016
Yes, Bernie will now do a one hour town hall with Chuck Todd

Yet they are only promoting on the bottom of the screen the one with Bernie's opponent.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
42. Does it even matter?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 09:19 AM
Mar 2016

Obviously when he goes first - which is every time - she modifies her answers to echo what he already said.
Post-town hall discussions can point out the "Hillary tonight vs. Hillary last night" inaccuracies. They have video. Lots of it.
Bernie needs to stay on message, speak to the people and let the pundits call her ever-changing policy positions into question.
She's spinning herself into quite a mess.

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