2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts) Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:31 AM Mar 2016

In Illinois, a vote for HRC is a vote of support for Rahm.

It really is that simple.

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In Illinois, a vote for HRC is a vote of support for Rahm. (Original Post) Ken Burch Mar 2016 OP

I grew up down state Fairgo Mar 2016 #1

I love it when the rare poster mentions Mike Royko. He was a real treasure. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #3

You know it! Fairgo Mar 2016 #6

Mostly...other than the last few years when he got right-wing and mean, for some reason. n/t. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #9

Oh, wow. See, i didn't know that. Or missed it. Now I'm going to have to silvershadow Mar 2016 #16

He was still great for the time before that. n/t. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #18

I loved reading Royko as a kid. BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #31

Praise Nancy! Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #2

That's the predominant national view of it, I guess Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #4

Could you elaborate on that? n/t. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #17

It seems that Sanders is getting a boost BECAUSE of the Cook County State's Attorney Race Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #19

Fair enough. A boost is a boost. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #21

Cook County Democratic Organization endorsed Kim Foxx alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #27

To simple people perhaps. hack89 Mar 2016 #5

HRC has still not called for Rahm's resignation. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #7

That still doesn't make a vote for Hillary a vote for Rahm. hack89 Mar 2016 #10

How dare he! Only Hillary is allowed to have the 'simpleton' vote LettuceSea Mar 2016 #25

Unrec leftofcool Mar 2016 #11

we could say vote for bernie is a vote for Smith and Wesson....or Glock...or Ruger beachbum bob Mar 2016 #12

The NRA gave him a D+ rating. EOM zalinda Mar 2016 #13

It should be an F. Hillary is got an F. So dis Martin OM. Every Democrar should have an F lunamagica Mar 2016 #29

Or we could say a vote for Hillary is a vote for dwrjr Mar 2016 #28

A pretty pathetic OP IMO. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #14

You're aware that there are Democrats outside of Chicago? brooklynite Mar 2016 #15

Yes. But Chicago is where it will be decided. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #22

downstate loves bernie questionseverything Mar 2016 #32

Glad to see that. n/t. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #33

No, it's not. A vote for X is a vote for X. It's not a vote for Y. winter is coming Mar 2016 #20

Is that how it's being portrayed in the Land o' Lincoln? Octafish Mar 2016 #23

LOL. The comments from the Clinton folks are very transparent LettuceSea Mar 2016 #24

In what respect, Charlie? alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #26

yep Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #30

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)

1. I grew up down state

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:40 AM

Mar 2016

"Boss" was on the neighbours coffee table. Ryko was my first political read. The evolution of corruption, is just a new model of corruption, improved in the most perfidious way.

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)

3. I love it when the rare poster mentions Mike Royko. He was a real treasure. nt

Reply to Fairgo (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:11 AM

Mar 2016

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)

6. You know it!

Reply to silvershadow (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:39 AM

Mar 2016

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)

9. Mostly...other than the last few years when he got right-wing and mean, for some reason. n/t.

Reply to silvershadow (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:48 AM

Mar 2016

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)

16. Oh, wow. See, i didn't know that. Or missed it. Now I'm going to have to

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:42 AM

Mar 2016

check on it. I hate to hear it.

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)

18. He was still great for the time before that. n/t.

Reply to silvershadow (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:33 AM

Mar 2016

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)

31. I loved reading Royko as a kid.

Reply to silvershadow (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:28 PM

Mar 2016

Our local newspaper (The Huntsville Times in Huntsville, AL) carried his syndicated column. My Dad, who was pretty down the middle politically, would often chuckle while reading Royko's column and tell me I should read it. Royko could identify the juicy targets and really had a way with words.

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)

2. Praise Nancy!

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:43 AM

Mar 2016

Rahm's leadership on reducing police abuse is right on par with the way the Reagans "started the national conversation on AIDS".

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)

4. That's the predominant national view of it, I guess

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:31 AM

Mar 2016

locals are looking more at the Cook County State's Atty. race, though.

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)

8. Could you elaborate on that? n/t.

Reply to Chitown Kev (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:46 AM

Mar 2016

Response to Ken Burch (Reply #8)

surrealAmerican This message was self-deleted by its author.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)

19. It seems that Sanders is getting a boost BECAUSE of the Cook County State's Attorney Race

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:13 PM

Mar 2016

I am so hoping that folks are ready to kick Anita Alvarez to the curb; of all the public officials involved in the various law enforcement evils in Cook County, Anita Alvarez's hands are the dirtiest...bar none (and remember, she is a County official and not a city official)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/14/1500898/-Here-are-more-reasons-why-Chicago-should-vote-Anita-Alvarez-out-of-office-Tuesday

The way some of y'all feel about Hillary Clinton on this board...that's how I feel about Anita Alvarez.

And if the same voter anger that gets Anita Alvarez out of the state's attorney's office lifts Bernie Sanders to victory in Illinois...I'll take it.

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)

21. Fair enough. A boost is a boost.

Reply to Chitown Kev (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:28 PM

Mar 2016

I hope Alvarez does get kicked to the curb(strictly in ELECTORAL terms, of course).

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)

27. Cook County Democratic Organization endorsed Kim Foxx

Reply to Chitown Kev (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:01 PM

Mar 2016

No doubt the bernie people are mad that Alvarez's name isn't on the sample ballot. Just kidding!

hack89

(39,171 posts)

5. To simple people perhaps.

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:35 AM

Mar 2016

there is nothing simple about American politics. This never ending attempt to reduce it to some black and white, cartoonish view for cheap political points is laughable.

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)

7. HRC has still not called for Rahm's resignation.

Reply to hack89 (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:46 AM

Mar 2016

That matters, since it is indefensible for Rahm to remain in office after he helped hide the Laquan McDonald police murder video.

hack89

(39,171 posts)

10. That still doesn't make a vote for Hillary a vote for Rahm.

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:12 AM

Mar 2016

Unless you really believe it is the biggest issue facing America. Or you are trying to score cheap political points.

LettuceSea

(337 posts)

25. How dare he! Only Hillary is allowed to have the 'simpleton' vote

Reply to hack89 (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:51 PM

Mar 2016

All I see is a brief, yet powerful message that can resonate with a lot of Chicago residents.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)

11. Unrec

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:18 AM

Mar 2016

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)

12. we could say vote for bernie is a vote for Smith and Wesson....or Glock...or Ruger

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:25 AM

Mar 2016

if you don't know who they are...they are the weapons manuf that sanders chooses to protect....

zalinda

(5,621 posts)

13. The NRA gave him a D+ rating. EOM

Reply to beachbum bob (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:32 AM

Mar 2016

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)

29. It should be an F. Hillary is got an F. So dis Martin OM. Every Democrar should have an F

Reply to zalinda (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:13 PM

Mar 2016

Nothing else should be acceptable from a Democrat

dwrjr

(24 posts)

28. Or we could say a vote for Hillary is a vote for

Reply to beachbum bob (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:11 PM

Mar 2016

Cluster bombs for Saudi Arabia to drop on Yemen.

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)

14. A pretty pathetic OP IMO.

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:33 AM

Mar 2016

Win on the merits.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)

15. You're aware that there are Democrats outside of Chicago?

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:39 AM

Mar 2016

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)

22. Yes. But Chicago is where it will be decided.

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:30 PM

Mar 2016

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And most downstate Dems hate Rahm, too.

questionseverything

(9,651 posts)

32. downstate loves bernie

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:14 AM

Mar 2016

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280144548

heart of corn country and that line is miles long

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)

33. Glad to see that. n/t.

Reply to questionseverything (Reply #32)

Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:42 AM

Mar 2016

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)

20. No, it's not. A vote for X is a vote for X. It's not a vote for Y.

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:17 PM

Mar 2016

Octafish

(55,745 posts)

23. Is that how it's being portrayed in the Land o' Lincoln?

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:31 PM

Mar 2016

LettuceSea

(337 posts)

24. LOL. The comments from the Clinton folks are very transparent

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:35 PM

Mar 2016

You got yourself a Primary winning message

This simple, yet very powerful statement would do VERY well with Hillary's Chicago voting demographic. And they know it, judging by these responses. You're not allowed to do that!