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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:31 AM Mar 2016

NYT: Her long indifference to the concerns of organized labor

SNIP ...her long indifference to the concerns of organized labor. The results of Michigan’s primary last week highlighted this problem; exit polls showed that Mrs. Clinton narrowly lost union households to Senator Bernie Sanders. Over all, nearly 60 percent of Democratic voters thought free-trade agreements, which Mrs. Clinton has generally supported, caused job losses. Mr. Sanders won a majority of those voters, too, which raises the possibility of further upsets on Tuesday in primaries in Illinois and Ohio, where opposition to free-trade pacts is strong.

Mrs. Clinton’s troubles with labor began before she arrived in Washington. From 1986 to 1992, as a corporate lawyer in Arkansas, she served on the board of Walmart. By then, Sam Walton, the company’s founder, was notorious for his anti-union fervor; in the early 1970s, Mr. Walton hired an attorney named John E. Tate to break up an organizing campaign at two Missouri Walmart stores. For decades afterward, Mr. Tate drove Walmart’s successful anti-union strategy. In 1988, Mr. Tate joined Walmart’s board, where he served alongside Mrs. Clinton.

During Mrs. Clinton’s first presidential run, a former Walmart board member told ABC News that he could not recall her ever defending unions during more than 20 private board meetings. “She was not a dissenter,” Donald G. Soderquist, the vice chairman of the board during Mrs. Clinton’s tenure, told The Los Angeles Times in 2007. “She was a part of those decisions.”

“I’m always proud of Walmart and what we do and the way we do it better than anybody else,” Mrs. Clinton said at a 1990 shareholders meeting in Fayetteville, Ark. But over the years, as Walmart’s reputation was sullied by allegations of unsafe working conditions, overtime theft and sex discrimination, Mrs. Clinton distanced herself from the company. Still, the Walton family’s fondness for her endures; in December, Alice L. Walton, Mr. Walton’s daughter, donated more than $350,000 to the Hillary Victory Fund.

It is Mrs. Clinton’s past support for free-trade agreements, though, that has most antagonized labor. In 1996, she said that the two-year-old North American Free Trade Agreement was “proving its worth,” a position she reaffirmed years later as a senator. In 2000, while running for her Senate seat, Mrs. Clinton supported China’s entry into the World Trade Organization and granting the country Permanent Normal Trade Relations.

More recently, as secretary of state..................


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/opinion/campaign-stops/which-side-are-you-on-hillary.html

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NYT: Her long indifference to the concerns of organized labor (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 OP
Step back and take a good look at what Walmart did to America Fairgo Mar 2016 #1
What you said madokie Mar 2016 #2
Remember when your friends parents worked retail Fairgo Mar 2016 #3
I remember all of that madokie Mar 2016 #5
"(WalMart) Killed Norman Rockwell." Ilsa Mar 2016 #21
You essentially described my hometown Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #15
Senior yr. of HS, I soda-jerked at a mom & pop pharmacy. Divernan Mar 2016 #18
I loved the soda fountain Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #22
It's horrendous. I'm trying to figure out how anyone could be so senz Mar 2016 #4
Total agreement, except for one small thing.... daleanime Mar 2016 #13
The article is good. That notwithstanding, there is a fair amount of indifference to labor silvershadow Mar 2016 #6
Anyone sending you hate mail is certifiably mentally ill. Divernan Mar 2016 #19
It happened. I let it go (at least with the poster), but it disturbs me. I am attributing it silvershadow Mar 2016 #20
More evidence in the already existing mountain of evidence that ladjf Mar 2016 #7
So says Dan Kaufman, NOT the NYT. Very misleading headline. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #8
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #9
I would remind the writer of the OP... mdbl Mar 2016 #10
Yet number of unions see it differently from the OPINION piece (as opposed to editorial), and DUers Hoyt Mar 2016 #11
Union leadership..... daleanime Mar 2016 #14
The membership elects the leadership. I suspect they know what they are doing and who is best Hoyt Mar 2016 #17
Kick and R BeanMusical Mar 2016 #12
So -- who's endorsed by AFGE, AFSCME, AFT, AWIU, BAC, IAM, IATSE, ILA, IUOE, IUPAT, IW, LIUNA, struggle4progress Mar 2016 #16

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
1. Step back and take a good look at what Walmart did to America
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:37 AM
Mar 2016

Every mom & pop they ran out of business, the town square culture they decimated, suppliers they extorted, and "associates" who had to settle for a life without dreams.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
2. What you said
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:49 AM
Mar 2016

I live in a 4 town square, about 10 miles between them. Each town had a five and dime, each town had a Grocery store, each town had an OTASCO and a Western Auto, now all is left is the grocery stores and they're not the mom & pop stores any more either but rather large corporate stores. Two walmart stores now took all those places. At first when walmart came, mid to late '70s, they were selling mostly usa made product at a good price and that run the rest out of business but now all they have on their shelves are china and other third world merchandise. Oh and the low prices, they went the way of the dodo bird. I say two walmart stores but really one big store did the five and dimes the Otasco's the western autos in now we have a walmart grocery added in one of the towns that is trying to run the local grocery out of business. Walmart is not a good company by any stretch.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
3. Remember when your friends parents worked retail
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:53 AM
Mar 2016

Owned the little store...Remember when you could walk into the hardware store and this bloke in suspenders would triage your fix-it problem and point you to just the right tile or tool? Remember Knowing your green grocers name? They killed Norman Rockwell.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
5. I remember all of that
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:57 AM
Mar 2016

Very well in fact. The gentleman who owned our local hardware store passed away a couple years ago and with him went all that knowledge of how to do whatever you faced in your life short of vehicle problems. Awesome and very much missed Good Man.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
21. "(WalMart) Killed Norman Rockwell."
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:18 AM
Mar 2016

That is a fabulous phrase that should get people thinking.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
15. You essentially described my hometown
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:05 AM
Mar 2016

on the Arkansas side of the state line, in Wal-Mart's home county. In the late '60s/early '70s, there were 2 five-and-dimes, 3 grocery stores within walking distance of downtown (including the one sharing space with the original Wal-Mart Discount City), two clothing stores, two shoe stores, 3 pharmacies (2 with soda fountains), a Western Auto downtown, two hardware stores (one of which had a great selection of original Matchbox cars), a seed store, an office supply store, a library, music store, and art supply shop, among others. OTASCO (Oklahoma Tire and Supply Co.) was in a shopping center. Now they're all gone. Although the downtown area doesn't look rundown, if it isn't a pub, a shop is lucky if it can survive 3 years there.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
18. Senior yr. of HS, I soda-jerked at a mom & pop pharmacy.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:08 AM
Mar 2016

I made a kickass ice cream chocolate soda - that art has now been lost - the trick was to smush up 1/2 a scoop of vanilla ice cream with 2 squirts of chocolate syrup, blast it with carbonated water and then add 2 more scoops of vanilla ice cream.

And the pharmacist who owned the drugstore was also the mayor. His wife would make homemade pies and sloppy joe barbecues and bring them in for the lunch crowd.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
22. I loved the soda fountain
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 09:01 AM
Mar 2016

You're right-- making sodas was an art. My neighbor worked as a soda jerk at one of the pharmacies.

One thing about the library-- the building is still there, but the library has moved. The old library was small but cozy. What made it really special was that it was modeled after Monticello! All it needed was a dome on top.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
4. It's horrendous. I'm trying to figure out how anyone could be so
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:56 AM
Mar 2016

clueless, and I can't. Not just Walmart but all the other clumsy, harmful mistakes. What would do that to a person? Short-sighted? Unable to stop, think, feel, consider? Extreme self-centeredness? A traumatized brain? Lack of empathy? It's puzzling.

I wish she didn't want to be president.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
13. Total agreement, except for one small thing....
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:39 AM
Mar 2016

she doesn't want to be president. She seems to need to be president.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
6. The article is good. That notwithstanding, there is a fair amount of indifference to labor
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:05 AM
Mar 2016

right here on DU. In fact, I was PM'd some hate mail about a week ago or so from a long time DU'er who told me I should have left the party years ago. True story.

I also note fairly regularly about the lack of enthusiasm or even response to the labor posts here. It is shocking to me. Either the younger generations have not been educated sufficiently or they indifferent, ambivalent, or something...

My fear is that we will lose (or have already lost) some of the deeper connections to what it all means. That is tragic.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
20. It happened. I let it go (at least with the poster), but it disturbs me. I am attributing it
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:16 AM
Mar 2016

to the campaign, however personally I think it is reflective of a larger issue with the party itself, ever since the arrival of the Third Way.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
7. More evidence in the already existing mountain of evidence that
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:11 AM
Mar 2016

candidate Clinton does not work for "us". nt

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
10. I would remind the writer of the OP...
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:09 AM
Mar 2016

"But over the years, as Walmart’s reputation was sullied by allegations of unsafe working conditions, overtime theft and sex discrimination"

Don't forget wages so low the workers can't live without public assistance.
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. Yet number of unions see it differently from the OPINION piece (as opposed to editorial), and DUers
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:10 AM
Mar 2016

have routinely slammed any union or labor leader -- take Delores Huerta, for instance -- for supporting Clinton.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
17. The membership elects the leadership. I suspect they know what they are doing and who is best
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:23 AM
Mar 2016

for the membership.

struggle4progress

(118,224 posts)
16. So -- who's endorsed by AFGE, AFSCME, AFT, AWIU, BAC, IAM, IATSE, ILA, IUOE, IUPAT, IW, LIUNA,
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:21 AM
Mar 2016

NABTU, NEA, NTEU, OPCMIA, OPEIU, SEIU, SIU, SMART, UA, UBC, UFCW, UFW, UURWAW?

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