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bigtree

(85,987 posts)
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:22 AM Mar 2016

So, Sanders baselessly blamed the BP oil tragedy on Hillary? Four Pinocchios.

Jesse Lehrich ‏@JesseLehrich
So @BernieSanders baselessly blamed the BP oil tragedy on @HillaryClinton.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/14/did-hillary-clinton-cast-a-vote-that-led-to-the-bp-tragedy-in-the-gulf-of-mexico/

Four Pinocchios




We’ve often warned readers about how politicians misleadingly cite votes to make attacks, as the reality of legislative sausage-making is often more complicated than the attacks suggest. Sanders, in fact, has complained that Clinton has repeatedly misrepresented some of his votes. So is his campaign doing the same thing here?

The Facts

The Sanders news release suggests that there was a straightforward cause and effect. Clinton voted for the Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006. And then “after the bill passed,” BP obtained the fateful permit to drill that resulted in the deadly and costly tragedy.

But when you dig into the details, that’s kind of like saying Clinton voted for the bill and the sun came up the next morning. Just as the legislation did not cause the sun to rise, the permit obtained by BP had nothing to do with the bill that Clinton supported.

The Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act, in fact, was a much milder version of legislation initially passed by the GOP-controlled House, the Deep Ocean Energy Resources Act of 2006, which would have opened most of the territorial waters currently off-limits, subject to state approval. It received only 40 votes from Democrats and even the GOP-controlled Senate had little interest in it.

But the Senate did pass, by a vote of 71 to 25, a bill to open for leasing an area of the eastern Gulf of Mexico, known as the “181 Area,” located over 100 miles off the Florida Panhandle and Alabama coast, as well as an area south of 181. While the bill repealed the congressional moratorium on certain areas of the Gulf of Mexico, it also placed a moratorium on other areas until 2022. It also increased the distribution of offshore oil and gas revenue to states along the coast. (We should note that then-Sens. Barack Obama and Joseph Biden did not support this measure.)

In a floor statement at the time, Clinton said that “as part of a balanced energy policy, we need to expand domestic oil and gas production where it has local support and can do so in an environmentally sound way.” But she warned that she would oppose any effort by the House to expand offshore drilling to areas not permitted in the Senate bill.

So, just to be clear, Sanders, who was then in the House, voted against a different bill than the one Clinton voted for. The House never took up the Senate version. But after the GOP lost control of the Congress in the 2006 midterm elections, the Senate version was folded into a tax bill and passed during the lame-duck session. Sanders also voted against the omnibus bill; it passed the Senate in a voice vote.

The Sanders campaign noted that on March 19, 2008, then-Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne officially opened Lease Sale 206 and 224 for the Gulf of Mexico. Lease Sale 224 was touted as “the first oil and natural gas sale to include the immediate revenue sharing provisions for Gulf States that were mandated by the Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006.” But Lease Sale 206 was related to BP’s permit for the drilling by Deepwater Horizon, specifically Mississippi Canyon block 252.

Lease Sale 206, which offered 5,569 tracts comprising about 29.8 million acres in federal areas offshore Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, resulted in bids of nearly $3.6 billion, up 26 percent from the previous lease sale, in 2007, according to a report in SNL Gas Week. BP was the third-biggest spender, bidding more than $336 million.

But while Lease Sale 224, in the eastern part of the gulf, was affected by the revenue-sharing provisions in the law, Lease Sale 206 instead was just one of many lease sales that had been taking place on a regular basis, even before the 2006 law. Under the law, federal revenue derived from Central Lease Sale 206 won’t be shared with coastal states until 2017.

In other words, Lease Sale 206 had nothing to do with areas opened up for offshore drilling by the bill that Clinton supported. That is also confirmed by the notice for Lease Sale 206 in the Federal Register: “The proposal does not include approximately 5.8 million acres located in the southeastern part of the Central Planning Area which the Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006 opened to leasing after many years.”

Warren Gunnels, a senior policy aide to Sanders, said it is a fact that Clinton voted for the bill and that BP obtained a permit after the bill was passed. “In addition to those facts, I believe that it is fair to assume that if the Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006 was defeated, the Interior Department would have thought twice before approving more offshore drilling leases in the Gulf of Mexico,” he said.

Gunnels also pointed to a chart showing that oil production in the Gulf of Mexico spiked after the leases were offered. But that’s largely because Hurricanes Gustav and Ike had virtually shut down production in late 2008.

The Pinocchio Test

The Sanders campaign can certainly contrast the candidates’ votes on offshore drilling. But it cannot insinuate that Clinton’s vote in 2006 had anything to do with the Deepwater Horizon disaster. Indeed, as phrased, the Sanders campaign statement would make any reasonable person believe that if it weren’t for the bill that Clinton supported, BP would not have obtained a permit. But there is no cause-and-effect that can be found.

We wavered between Three and Four Pinocchios. Given this was made in a prepared statement — and because of the Sanders campaign’s unwillingness to admit error — we tipped toward Four Pinocchios.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/14/did-hillary-clinton-cast-a-vote-that-led-to-the-bp-tragedy-in-the-gulf-of-mexico/

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Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
1. I would say Sanders made a heck of a better case here than
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:37 AM
Mar 2016

the dishonest case Clinton made on the auto bailout or 2007 immigration vote for example.

On that basis, in the wake of daily deception from the Clinton campaign that has largely been given a pass by the media, I certainly can't muster much blame against the Sanders campaign.

If the media was truly concerned about deception in the campaign, they should have stepped up when Clinton started doing it regularly about 60 days ago. When you consider the dishonest, unbalanced pro Clinton hit pieces the Washington Post has written this cycle, I could care less about the Washington Post's Pinocchios because the journalistic integrity of the Washington Post disappeared a long time ago.

If I were the Sanders campaign, I wouldn't even take their calls.


I think I said below a couple of their articles that if folks are looking for good journalism on the Washington Post site, they'll only find it in the archives.

 

Carlo Marx

(98 posts)
2. Is this some kind of defense of Clinton selling out in favor of the oil industry?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:44 AM
Mar 2016

Perhaps her vote was not directly responsible for the BP Horizon tragedy. Nevertheless, she takes money from the fossil energy industry and votes on their behalf. Let's see how well her support for fracking plays out in New York, where even the corporate poodle Cuomo was forced to ban it.

bigtree

(85,987 posts)
3. no, it's a defense against a provable lie from the Sanders campaign
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:48 AM
Mar 2016

...about Hillary Clinton's record.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
4. No, he didn't.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:50 AM
Mar 2016

He contrasted their views on off-shore oil drilling and tied the oil industry to climate change. I'm assuming you didn't read the press release so here's a link: https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-florida-puts-focus-climate-change-offshore-oil-drilling/

In case you don't want to click a link, and so you have no excuse not to know, here's the text:

TAMPA, Fla. – Bernie Sanders’ campaign on Thursday contrasted his consistent record opposing offshore oil drilling with Hillary Clinton’s support for a bill that allowed more drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

With Sanders scheduled to address a rally here tonight in this Gulf of Mexico coastal community, his campaign cited the 2006 vote on the gulf drilling bill. Sanders, then a member of the House, voted against the legislation. Clinton, then a senator, voted for the bill. After the bill passed, the oil giant BP obtained a permit to drill in the area where one of its rigs exploded in 2010, killing 11 workers and causing a catastrophic spill of of 130 million gallons of oil into the gulf.

Like her shifting stands on other issues, Clinton more recently has signaled opposition to offshore drilling.

Sanders’ spokesman, Michael Briggs, said the senator opposed the Gulf of Mexico offshore drilling bill because of the risk of environmental contamination to coastal communities. In addition, Briggs said, Sanders also strongly believes the United States must lead the world in taking bold measures to combat climate change.

Sanders touched on climate change during speeches at rallies in Kissimmee, Florida, where more than 5,200 supporters showed up at the outdoors Osceola Heritage Park, and at the University of Florida in Gainesville, where the crowd count topped 5,800.

Saying climate change already is “doing devastating harm in this country and around the world,” Sanders said the future widespread devastation would occur “if we don’t have the guts to stand up to the fossil fuel industry and tell them their short-term profits are not more important than the planet we intend to leave to our children and grandchildren.”

He also called at the Kissimmee rally for an end to hydraulic fracturing, or fracking. Clinton recently released a plan to encourage natural gas production using the controversial technique of injecting water and chemicals into the ground.

The Florida peninsula is especially susceptible to the effects of climate change because of rising sea levels that scientists say threaten nearly one-third of the state’s Atlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico coastal areas.

As part of Sanders’ bold agenda on climate change, he has co-sponsored a Senate bill to end fossil fuel extraction from public lands, including along the Atlantic continental shelf. He supports a carbon tax on oil, gas and coal to discourage burning the fossil fuels that produce greenhouse gas emissions which scientists say could cause the planet to warm by as much as 10 degrees Fahrenheit by the end of the century.
 

Carlo Marx

(98 posts)
5. Go ahead, take that one to the voters.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

Clinton's vote to expand offshore oil drilling in 2006 was Not the one directly responsible for permitting the BP criminal's devastation of the gulf. That was somebody else's fault.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
7. Four Pinocchios? I guess no one saw the picture...
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:57 AM
Mar 2016

Here's Hillary in a deep-sea diving suit before she went out to sabotage the wellhead. What you can't see are the bolt-cutters and pipe wrench hanging from her toolbelt because they're on her left side.

So what do you have to say now?

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
9. The press release is not false, of course, but it is misleading, and that is bad.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:14 PM
Mar 2016

As a consequence, I will have to give the Sanders campaign only an A- for honesty instead of an A. The Clinton campaign gets an F, of course.

bigtree

(85,987 posts)
12. yep. Waiting patiently for all the folks complaining about the auto bailout charges
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:07 PM
Mar 2016

...to denounce Sanders for these Pinocchios.

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