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Historic Momment: An American Political Party Is About to Nominate a Woman for President (Original Post) Stallion Mar 2016 OP
So MSNBC has decided to talk about DURHAM D Mar 2016 #1
K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #2
That would be nice, but wrong person IMO mvd Mar 2016 #3
Gender is becoming less and less important in our society. peace13 Mar 2016 #8
Sure. Get back to me after 240 years of only women.. LisaM Mar 2016 #12
How about 240 years of only Christians as President? jfern Mar 2016 #14
Really? n/t LisaM Mar 2016 #37
Really. pinebox Mar 2016 #41
I think equating religion and one's sex is a false equivalency. LisaM Mar 2016 #42
Exactly jfern Mar 2016 #13
👆 this deathrind Mar 2016 #9
I remember how happy I was 8 yrs ago loyalsister Mar 2016 #11
Yes! peace13 Mar 2016 #24
Just for accuracy, you mean a major party nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #4
Yeah I Ran Out of Room on Title Line Stallion Mar 2016 #5
I just included the list nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #7
Wow, even some from the 1800s jfern Mar 2016 #15
Nerds are us nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #34
Change to a "major American political party" ecstatic Mar 2016 #6
yes, and the Repubs greymouse Mar 2016 #44
It's Wonderful. shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #10
same here.... smiley Mar 2016 #18
I'm going to enjoy it no matter how many people I see trying to take it away. shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #33
non-petty large old feminist greymouse Mar 2016 #45
Whatever floats your boat. shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #46
The primaries aren't over yet, so stop pretending that she has already won. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #16
Math. We'll see how that works out. NT Adrahil Mar 2016 #20
Voters are people, not numbers. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #21
OFFS Adrahil Mar 2016 #26
It was called PUMA (2008), so consider that argument nulled and voided. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #35
Actually she is moving to very favorable territory leftofcool Mar 2016 #27
Is there a poll to back those claims up? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #36
She has the momentum. That's undeniable. n/t livetohike Mar 2016 #30
But will the outcome justify a selfish momentary gratification. Only time will tell. nt Snotcicles Mar 2016 #17
A Nixonian warmonger married to Wall Street gets to be the Democratic nominee? AZ Progressive Mar 2016 #19
Yes! We are accomplishing something very, very important. Hortensis Mar 2016 #22
Warren??? Seriously? That is great news. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #23
Historic moment? SmittynMo Mar 2016 #25
I guess you didn't see the new poll? leftofcool Mar 2016 #29
Never read it. SmittynMo Mar 2016 #31
I'm looking at the exit poll graphic now Dem2 Mar 2016 #32
Who will lose her ass to a fascist. Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #28
Who will lose for the second time. Autumn Mar 2016 #38
Carly Fioria dropped out already didn't she? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #39
HRC isn't the first to be nominated. Not by a long shot nt riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #40
too bad she's an incompetent corrupt smirking whatever greymouse Mar 2016 #43

mvd

(65,157 posts)
3. That would be nice, but wrong person IMO
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:10 AM
Mar 2016

I can't think of one thing inspiring about Clinton except it would be nice to have a woman President. And congrats to her devotees, but that one factor isn't swaying me. Rather it was someone like Warren.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
8. Gender is becoming less and less important in our society.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:15 AM
Mar 2016

It's not something to base a vote on IMO.

LisaM

(27,792 posts)
42. I think equating religion and one's sex is a false equivalency.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

You're welcome to disagree, though. Though we've only had one Catholic president, so maybe that will make you feel better.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
13. Exactly
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 06:06 AM
Mar 2016

I'd definitely be supporting Warren over Biden, but Bernie is much better than Hillary.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
9. 👆 this
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:33 AM
Mar 2016

It appears the position on issues, integrity and truth have taken a back seat to gender. I wish it had been Warren as well.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
11. I remember how happy I was 8 yrs ago
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:54 AM
Mar 2016

I was walking on air for months when Obama was nominated then elected. That was inspiring.
A candidate spouting machismo soundbites re: Ghaddafi's death and sniper fire fantasies really doesn't seem all that different from the various war hawks we have seen in congress and among nominees.

It is a sad state of affairs and people are so hooked on the idea of making history that they disregard the reality of nominating someone who may work well in small friendly groups but is one of the worst candidates I have seen on the national stage or when she is critiicized directly.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
24. Yes!
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:11 AM
Mar 2016

Eight years ago you could go to an Obama rally and there would be people of all ages and races, together. People looked out for one another. Disrupters were met with civilized talk and compassion. I felt like Bernie's functions were like that. I wasn't able to go to any of his. Our world has changed and not for the better.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
4. Just for accuracy, you mean a major party
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:11 AM
Mar 2016

hate to point this out but the Greens have done that for a while already.

I am a nerd about accuracy.

And here is the full list, which goes farther afield.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_United_States_presidential_and_vice-presidential_candidates

ecstatic

(32,641 posts)
6. Change to a "major American political party"
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:13 AM
Mar 2016

I think the green party has nominated women in the past.

greymouse

(872 posts)
44. yes, and the Repubs
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:05 PM
Mar 2016

had Claire Booth Luce put up for the nomination, although she did not win the nomination, of course.

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
10. It's Wonderful.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:16 AM
Mar 2016

(No matter how many ways the petty try to take it away.) I can't believe this is happening in my time. Just incredible. I'm amazed by some of these petty little adolescent jerks though.

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
33. I'm going to enjoy it no matter how many people I see trying to take it away.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:46 AM
Mar 2016
There's been a general theme I've dealt with online, where I've seen many petty adolescent jerks trying to make that aspect of it something ugly. Well, I'm voting for an all around candidate and I'm delighted that she is a woman too. I'm going to enjoy that no matter what and won't let them affect me. Have a great day.
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
16. The primaries aren't over yet, so stop pretending that she has already won.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 06:36 AM
Mar 2016

Because she hasn't, and she is moving into ever less favorable territory.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
21. Voters are people, not numbers.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:48 AM
Mar 2016

Clinton Campaign: dehumanising the base since 1992. "Who else are they gonna vote for?"

And if we are talking "math": usually divisions don't render outcomes higher than what you started with. How's that bridge-burning working out for you guys?

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
26. OFFS
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:21 AM
Mar 2016

It comes down to delegates. You need delegates to win.

I'm sorry if reality has a Clinton bias, but there ya go.

As for bridge burning... I'm not burning any bridges. I think Bernie is raising important issues. And if he were to get the nomination, I'd support him.

There is no Hillary or Bust movement, after all.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
27. Actually she is moving to very favorable territory
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:21 AM
Mar 2016

She will win New York and PA and likely California.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
19. A Nixonian warmonger married to Wall Street gets to be the Democratic nominee?
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 06:49 AM
Mar 2016

I guess that's what the Democratic Party stands for these days...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Yes! We are accomplishing something very, very important.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:01 AM
Mar 2016

Half of all Americans are female, cutting across all voter groups. It's certainly past time!

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
25. Historic moment?
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:14 AM
Mar 2016

I don't think so.

There is no guarantee she will win overall. With this last round of voting, the dems are likely to lose a lot of votes. My wife and I may be 2 of them. Even more won't vote for the oligarchy, once it's official.

The fact that America has continued to support an oligarch society is beyond my comprehension. I mean, "Are we this fucking stupid to continue down our disastrous path with the SOS"?

Think about this......

A lot of Bernie fans will not vote for HRC. Independents and republicans that moved in the Bernie camp are most likely to not vote for her, and potentially go for the GOP candidate.

My wife and I agree. If Trump wins, we're moving out of the country.

We just pissed away our LAST chance to fix this country, and bring back true democracy. Now how fucking stupid is that?

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
29. I guess you didn't see the new poll?
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:23 AM
Mar 2016

Millennials and indies both say by a margin of 85% that they will be happy to vote for Hillary in the GE over Trump or Cruz.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
31. Never read it.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:31 AM
Mar 2016

Show me proof. 85%. Either way, do you think she can survive losing 15% of the party? Especially since Trump is bringing them out of the woodwork. How many in a row has he won? Hmmm. How many times have I heard that republicants are voting in record numbers.

We all know when voter turnout is low, we lose.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
32. I'm looking at the exit poll graphic now
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:35 AM
Mar 2016

28% of Republicans will not vote for Trump as the nominee

Autumn

(44,973 posts)
38. Who will lose for the second time.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:43 PM
Mar 2016
On the bright side she and Bill can do a lot of traveling for their foundation.

greymouse

(872 posts)
43. too bad she's an incompetent corrupt smirking whatever
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:02 PM
Mar 2016

a disgrace to women everywhere. The Margaret Thatcher of the US.

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