2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe drumbeat now: Give up Bernie supporters, the alternative to Hillary is nuclear apocalypse...
if Trump wins because of all you recalcitrant Bernie bros. Just heard a Democratic operative posing that argument on BBC.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Not buying it. Not for a millisecond.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)it won't be because of me, regardless of how I vote. There hasn't been a close presidential election in Arkansas in my lifetime-- or even my mom's lifetime. The closest was 1968, and even then, Humphrey came in a distant 3rd.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)oasis
(49,317 posts)Those who want to take their ball and go home will have 20+years of regret.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)But, as of now, it appears to be Hillary.
oasis
(49,317 posts)shadow your American experience.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)Besides, Trump will never be the nominee so you guys might want to start thinking of another tactic.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)in fact the exact same thing.
Change "ultra right" to "ultra left" and you've become Ted Cruz!
oasis
(49,317 posts)Is it still there?
pinebox
(5,761 posts)That the real elephant is Trump. That whole Elephant symbol thing and all that jazz
oasis
(49,317 posts)will you still be trying to direct attention to the shiny object on the other side of the room?
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Want me as an ally? Nominate a leftist.
oasis
(49,317 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)riversedge
(70,047 posts)supporters are not asking nor demanding Bernie to drop out
longship
(40,416 posts)But several of her followers here have suggested that very thing.
Maybe they aren't aware of Hillary Clinton's own position on the topic.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017339191
This very OP, for instance.
hatrack
(59,565 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,250 posts)Period. No blaming. No games.
And it holds true no matter which of the two is the nominee.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)I can't believe how nutso people have become over Trump. Dems and Indys voting for Kasich and Cruz yesterday to stop him. WTF. (Reminds me of the poem "If".)
As long as Bernie's in, so am I. Just donated some more, which won't be the last time, and will be phone banking quite a bit until the convention.
This is a marathon, not a sprint. Any of the current players could fall down on their face and not finish the race at any moment. Hell no, we won't go!
If (Rudyard Kipling)
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, dont deal in lies,
Or being hated, dont give way to hating,
And yet dont look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dreamand not make dreams your master;
If you can thinkand not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth youve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: Hold on!
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kingsnor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything thats in it,
Andwhich is moreyoull be a Man, my son
kristopher
(29,798 posts)The reason they are trying so hard to discourage us isn't because Bernie can't win the nomination or the general.
They KNOW he can and they have no way to stop him except to convince us to starve his campaign.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)If you are worried about Trump, why not vote for the candidate who would bury him in a landslide? Feel the Bern and vote Sanders!
Human101948
(3,457 posts)for the edification of my compadres.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)..and Cruz or Kasich will only be more difficult for Hillary to beat than Trump.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)and I actually hope that you are. Even though I detest them, they aren't encouraging violence.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)nevermind. I don't care what people like this do.
NowSam
(1,252 posts)to vote for her is that she isn't Trump. Not very inspiring.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)And we had Dems crossing over to vote for Trump to keep that fear alive.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)convention and that will not have any effect on who has their finger on the nuke.
They just want us to stop doing anything for Bernie in order to end any chance that we have of winning. Do not let them sucker you into stopping our fight. At the very least we are speaking truth to power.
She says she has it in the bag - then why do we have to stop supporting Bernie until after the convention. Could it be that this elections is NOT truly over?