Clinton won't get to 2300 before the convention

[Csainvestor]

It's unbelievable that someone that's been running for 20 years. the most famous woman in the world is unable to clinch before the convention. And she is unable to win against somebody that came out of nowhere.

[morningfog]

1. I always up my calories on the weekend too.

[JaneyVee]

2. Voting just started a month ago.

[Trust Buster]

3. It took President Obama until June 2008. Two presidential wins ago. Thank you and have a nice day.

[firebrand80]

4. That's where the goalposts are now?

impressive

[NowSam]

5. Bernie hardly came out of nowhere but

otherwise your point is well taken. and I say "GOOD". Broker this convention and if we can't decide than let's draft AL GORE.

[SheenaR]

6. Hardly came out of nowhere?

9 months ago I would like to know what his name recognition was.

Against one of the most famous women on the planet.

The fact that this wasn't over by Iowa is a testament to both her weaknesses and an admirable performance by the Sanders campaign.

[farleftlib]

9. ^THIS^

She is a deeply flawed candidate. She was expecting an unopposed coronation and everything was done so that she could take it in a walk and yet it didn't happen. It says a lot.

[NowSam]

18. True he wasn't famous

But he has been a public servant for decades and has worked tirelessly for the causes that matter.

Bernie is my champion and hero and he has been fighting for years. So he hardly came out of nowhere.

[SheenaR]

19. On the national scene

he was known by next to nobody. People in the South hadn't heard of him weeks before their primary. Now that's on the campaign, but only diehards knew who Bernie Sanders was in early 2015

[oberliner]

13. Do you remember what many progressives did when Al Gore was the nominee?

Ralph Nader ring a bell?

[SheenaR]

20. Jill Stein will ring a similar bell for many n/t

[CalvinballPro]

22. And do you remember the result of that? George W Bush ring a bell??

[oberliner]

25. Yes, exactly

That was the point of bringing up that past example.

[HooptieWagon]

27. Yes, they voted for Gore.

Only 1% of registered Democrats voted for Nader. 13% of registered Democrats voted for Bush...and it wasn't the progressives.

[BklnDem75]

7. She's been running since 96? nt

[DCBob]

8. The year of the insurgent plus the stupid fake email scandal.

That helped Bernie tremendously. But clearly Bernie is a very strong candidate with a strong message. It would be good if Hillary could adapt to be a bit more like Bernie.

[artislife]

14. She won't really adapt, though

and that is why her crossover, if she is the nominee, won't happen in the numbers she will need. She has a track record and we know her actions v her words.

The sheer numbers the Republicans brought to the primary season should be enough for the "Math" crowd.

[yallerdawg]

10. 2,300 plus is counting superdelegates, too.

Counting superdelegates, Hillary is already at 1,599.

This will be done before the convention.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/primary-calendar-and-results.html

[Csainvestor]

11. She already has all the super delegates

She has to win the rest of the pledged delegates. and she isn't going to get 700 before the convention.

[jcgoldie]

12. Obama had 1766.5 heading to the convention in 2008

Expecting her to reach 2300 without including superdelegates is ridiculous.

[Csainvestor]

16. I am saying she won't get to 2300 even with super delegates

When it's all said and done, at the convention they will be almost tied.

[jcgoldie]

23. She only needs 42% of pledged delegates going forward

To win a majority in which case she'll get the vast majority of superdelegates and be well over the threshhold.

[leftofcool]

24. No, they won't

[Renew Deal]

30. Ahh those virtual ties you're talking about

The ones where you lose, but it makes you feel better.

[book_worm]

15. Running for 20 years? She ran in 2008 and then served as SOS

that is 8 years. And yes, she will have the magic number by the time of the convention with pledged delegates and super delegates. Bernie has been running now for almost a year and has gotten a lot of publicity and you guys have to stop pretending that he suddenly came out of nowhere.

[Csainvestor]

17. She had a great night last night but she barely won 100 delegates

More than Bernie. She isn't going to close this before the convention.

[Garrett78]

33. I predict Clinton's lead will be so overwhelming after April 26th that Sanders will drop out.

But only time will tell.

[bkkyosemite]

34. Perdict all you want but Bernie says he is going to the convention.

[CalvinballPro]

21. Except, the Democratic primary process has been specifically engineered to prevent...

...any candidate from "clinching" the nomination early. There's a reason we use proportional delegates. It might be a very different race if there were more than 2 candidates still left. 2008 was Obama, Clinton, and Edwards for a good long stretch. But this is our system, and it works for us.

And your argument looks suspiciously like "Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't." I certainly don't doubt that you'd be upset if she had locked down the nomination after the first few contests the same way you're apparently upset that she didn't.

[HooptieWagon]

31. No. Edwards bailed out fairly early, Jan 30th.

[beachbumbob]

26. Lol...id say put your money on it but I know that won't

Go anywhere..Hillary is a wrap in 30 days

[Gothmog]

28. Only if you exclude super delegates

[Renew Deal]

29. Bernie will never get there

And that's the point

[Garrett78]

32. Being as I'm not a big fan of superdelegates...

...2026 is the number that matters most. Clinton won't have any trouble topping that number and 2300 isn't out of the realm of possibility.

[SidDithers]

35. O.K...nt

Sid

[MoonRiver]

36. Hope springs eternal.