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TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:02 PM Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton sold fracking to the world as Sec of State

"Bulgaria had signed a five-year, $68 million deal, granting US oil giant Chevron millions of acres in shale gas concessions. Bulgarians were outraged. Shortly before Clinton arrived, tens of thousands of protesters poured into the streets carrying placards that read 'Stop fracking with our water' and 'Chevron go home.' Bulgaria's parliament responded by voting overwhelmingly for a fracking moratorium.

Clinton urged Bulgarian officials to give fracking another chance....

The following month in neighboring Romania, thousands of people gathered to protest another Chevron fracking project, and Romania's parliament began weighing its own shale gas moratorium. Again Clinton intervened, dispatching her special envoy for energy in Eurasia, Richard Morningstar, to push back against the fracking bans....

Under her leadership, the State Department worked closely with energy companies to spread fracking around the globe....

Clinton tapped a lawyer named David Goldwyn as her special envoy for international energy affairs; his charge was 'to elevate energy diplomacy as a key function of US foreign policy.' ...

Goldwyn had a long history of promoting drilling overseas....

According to diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks, one of Goldwyn's first acts at the State Department was gathering oil and gas industry executives 'to discuss the potential international impact of shale gas.' Clinton then sent a cable to US diplomats, asking them to collect information on the potential for fracking in their host countries....

(E)nvironmental groups were barely consulted, while industry played a crucial role...."
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron

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tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
12. "My answer is a lot shorter. No, I do not support fracking."
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:41 PM
Mar 2016

That has become my sons favorite line for his Sanders impersonation.


 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
2. HRC supporters do.not.care. My millennials are voting Jill Stein if it's HRC
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:03 PM
Mar 2016

and it's precisely because they feel the planet can't wait for "incremental action".

TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
3. but that will just help the Republican nominee, who will be even worse on climate change
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:06 PM
Mar 2016

issues, get elected

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
8. If HRC moves on climate change at the pace she's promised, it's a lost cause anyway
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:12 PM
Mar 2016

so why not vote your conscience?

If you know any millennials, you'd know this is how they see it. Fracking, carbon emissions, fossil fuels, HRC is a dinosaur.

Sanders is the only candidate (other than Martin O'Malley) who wants aggressive action. Immediately.

TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
10. I just have a hard time understanding how Dems can support a candidate
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

who feels this way about fossil fuels and climate change. Have they been brainwashed by all the right-wing climate change denialism of the past decade?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
11. I've come to the conclusion they don't care. Or they don't understand the timeline
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016

And how dire things are.



casperthegm

(643 posts)
4. +1
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:09 PM
Mar 2016

HRC supporters do not care. I'm not sure when the party began adopting fracking as being ok. It appears that (based on voting) most dems have no issues with HRC's republican policies and views (I can list them if requested).

If the majority of the democratic party feels that these traditionally republican views are the way we should head then I fear that it's going to lose a number of voters (especially younger ones), myself included. But they need to know that the reality is that the party left us, not vice versa.

TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
9. remember what she said in the debate last week? (transcript follows)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:24 PM
Mar 2016

QUESTION: Fracking can lead to environmental pollution including, but not limited to, the contamination of water supply. Do you support fracking?

COOPER: Secretary Clinton?

CLINTON: You know, I don’t support it when any locality or any state is against it, number one. I don’t support it when the release of methane or contamination of water is present. I don’t support it — number three — unless we can require that anybody who fracks has to tell us exactly what chemicals they are using.

So by the time we get through all of my conditions, I do not think there will be many places in America where fracking will continue to take place. And I think that’s the best approach, because right now, there places where fracking is going on that are not sufficiently regulated.

So first, we’ve got to regulate everything that is currently underway, and we have to have a system in place that prevents further fracking unless conditions like the ones that I just mentioned are met.

COOPER: Senator Sanders, you...

SANDERS: My answer — my answer is a lot shorter. No, I do not support fracking.

(APPLAUSE)
...

COOPER: Senator Sanders, though ... to Secretary Clinton’s point, there are a number of Democratic governors in many states who say that fracking can be done safely, and that it’s helping their economies. Are they wrong?

SANDERS: Yes.

(APPLAUSE)

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/07/us/politics/transcript-democratic-presidential-debate.html

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