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ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:09 PM Mar 2016

Popular vote so far (in millions): Hillary-8.66, Trump-7.45, Bernie-5.91

Bernie keeps saying that he has a better chance of beating Donald Trump. In fact, he is trailing him in the popular vote. The only person who beats Trump is Hillary. Hillary beats Trump by more than 1.2 million votes. She's beating Sanders by 2.75 million so far.

If Bernie can't beat Hillary, how the hell does he think he is going to beat Trump. Numbers don't lie. Hillary is the best person to beat Trump and she's already doing it.

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Popular vote so far (in millions): Hillary-8.66, Trump-7.45, Bernie-5.91 (Original Post) ProudToBeLiberal Mar 2016 OP
Big states are coming Politicalboi Mar 2016 #1
Like New York DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Mar 2016 #4
He is not going to break 40% in Cali ucrdem Mar 2016 #6
Texas, Virginia, Florida, Ohio and Illinois are tiny states! NuclearDem Mar 2016 #8
He will do well in small states. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #16
Total cast: 31m. GOP 17, Dems 14, Hillary 8, Bernie 6. Houston, we have a problem leveymg Mar 2016 #2
Shazam! ucrdem Mar 2016 #5
The problem I see with Clinton being the nominee is this: Marrah_G Mar 2016 #7
Is there a correlation between primary votes and general election votes? RAFisher Mar 2016 #9
Ummmm.....nearly 6 million people? That's a quite a haul for a nobody. nt nc4bo Mar 2016 #10
popular votes do not win elections. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #11
Exactly. Caucuses. Kittycat Mar 2016 #14
you're not adding all the other Republican votes ibegurpard Mar 2016 #12
Can we at least agree that Hillary has the most votes? nt ProudToBeLiberal Mar 2016 #13
Clinton, 2.75 million ahead! Hoo Yah. Nt. seabeyond Mar 2016 #15
More people need to see this. Thank you. K & R nt Persondem Mar 2016 #17

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. Like New York
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:19 PM
Mar 2016

Politicalboi (14,372 posts)
1. Big states are coming

Bernie is going to kick ass.


Like New YorK:





Empire State Shock Poll -Clinton 71% Sanders 23%


In the Democratic primary, Clinton is ahead of Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders by 48 points, taking 71% of the vote to Sanders’s 23%. The former Secretary of State holds a massive advantage in key demographic groups, including men (66% to 29%), women (73% to 20%), African Americans (72% to 22%) and Hispanics (85% to 8%). Younger voters, ages 18-34, favor Sanders, but by a slimmer margin (53% to 40%) than in many primary states. Among all other age groups, Clinton dominates, leading by 45 points (ages 35-54), 50 points (ages 55-74), and 67 points (ages 75+).

Clinton and Sanders have similar favorability numbers with likely Democratic primary voters. Her favorable/unfavorable ratio is 82%/15% (+67); his is 63%/26% (+37). However Clinton garners far more loyalty: 85% of those who view her favorably plan to vote for her in the primary, while only 31% who have a favorable view of Sanders intend to vote for him.

http://www.theecps.com/

Response to Politicalboi (Reply #1)

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
6. He is not going to break 40% in Cali
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:28 PM
Mar 2016

and that's if he's still running in June. I personally hope he is, as my Rep is trying to get the two of them to come and debate in my town. Frankly I don't see why they would, but it's a fine idea.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. He will do well in small states.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:54 PM
Mar 2016

We will get decimated in New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Maryland.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. Total cast: 31m. GOP 17, Dems 14, Hillary 8, Bernie 6. Houston, we have a problem
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:17 PM
Mar 2016

Acknowledge, or game over in November. They're mobilized like crazy, and we have an enthusiasm gap of historic proportions.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
5. Shazam!
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:26 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks for that!

p.s. let's say they split Bernie's vote, for all the usual reasons: Hillary still wins.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
7. The problem I see with Clinton being the nominee is this:
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:29 PM
Mar 2016

I think Clinton does not motivate new or inconsistant voters to the polls. She gets all the usual Dem voters, but not much else.

Add to that the intense hatred many on the right have towards her she will not get any of them to vote for against trump.

Bernie has a real groundswell of voters and is also an acceptable choice for more moderate conservatives over Trump.

I think she is a risky candidate.

That's my opinion.

RAFisher

(466 posts)
9. Is there a correlation between primary votes and general election votes?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:34 PM
Mar 2016

There could be. But how strong is the correlation? It seems hard to believe that these votes from a non-random assortment swing states and non-swing states are better at predicting the general election than hypothetical national polling.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
14. Exactly. Caucuses.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:51 PM
Mar 2016

Caucuses don't have the same turn out, but are great way to show mobilizing effort and build energy for voter engagement.

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