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Hillary Clinton will lose to Donald Trump (Original Post) Skwmom Mar 2016 OP
They are wrong RandySF Mar 2016 #1
That's some serious nonsense. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #2
I disagree. Hillary will WIN if the FBI doesn't recommend prosecution. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #3
And if the FBI does....? villager Mar 2016 #5
"Keep hope alive." (REDUX) DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #7
I do hope that criminals receive justice. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #9
How, exactly? villager Mar 2016 #10
Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #14
Actually, just the opposite. villager Mar 2016 #21
Appreciate the levity, I think. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #23
We should enjoy that levity unless/until the election is handed to Trump. villager Mar 2016 #26
Why does Trump and levity make me think of the movie 'Life is beautiful' ? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #28
Exactly. nt villager Mar 2016 #40
Appreciate the levity, I think. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #24
Then I would hope she will be indicted, tried, and imprisoned. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #8
Prosecution for WHAT???? It is foolish to even suggest such a thing. Good grief. RBInMaine Mar 2016 #38
How many states has Trump gotten more than fifty percent of the vote? Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #4
how many states have the Democrats' ibegurpard Mar 2016 #19
Right now Hillary is up over two million votes. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #22
GOP has been getting much more turn out then the DNC FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #32
Looking at the vote totals Hillary has gotten more than Bernie and Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #34
Please see my signature DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #6
Nor would I want to. You have implicitly stood with war criminals such as Kissinger. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #11
I couldn't care less DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #13
You wish. But no. Squinch Mar 2016 #12
I feel like a broken record but this has to be repeated. Timmy5835 Mar 2016 #15
Partially right... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #20
Like every election, it will be about turnout, not demographics EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #33
Newton's Third Law Of Physics. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #36
and bernie sanders is losing to hillary clinton. next topic... nt msongs Mar 2016 #16
I stopped reading at "Counterpunch" brooklynite Mar 2016 #17
Even if she were to win the election, Rebkeh Mar 2016 #18
Don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #30
Nope. She won't. n/t Lucinda Mar 2016 #25
Counterpunch. LOL. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #27
Do you believe everything you read? book_worm Mar 2016 #29
If you really believe this, then you can make some good money on the options markets Gothmog Mar 2016 #31
Predictit: Who will win Presidential election: Hillary: .60, Trump: .29, Sanders: .07 Bill USA Mar 2016 #35
Wishful thinking. Lil Missy Mar 2016 #37
I'm sure the author of the op is thanking you for the kick.. smiley Mar 2016 #39
... LexVegas Mar 2016 #41
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
26. We should enjoy that levity unless/until the election is handed to Trump.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:49 PM
Mar 2016

We will have other things on our plate aside from "levity," then...

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
8. Then I would hope she will be indicted, tried, and imprisoned.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:29 PM
Mar 2016

Actually I hope the FBI recommends charges be filed, because everything I have seen is pretty convincing that she broke the law.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
38. Prosecution for WHAT???? It is foolish to even suggest such a thing. Good grief.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:01 PM
Mar 2016

Nothing illegal happened with that email bullshit. They would also have to indict Colin Powell who did the same thing. And Jeb Bush at the state level who did the same thing. And Condoleeza Rice whose people did the same thing. Enough of that NONSENSE.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
34. Looking at the vote totals Hillary has gotten more than Bernie and
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:19 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie has gotten more than Trump who has the most votes in the GOP side.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. I couldn't care less
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:37 PM
Mar 2016
Nor would I want to. You have implicitly stood with war criminals such as Kissinger.


I couldn't care less what you and your associates think about me. I would think a lad as perspicacious as you think you are would have figured that out by now.



Timmy5835

(373 posts)
15. I feel like a broken record but this has to be repeated.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:43 PM
Mar 2016

Unless Trump can get at least 46% of the Latino vote, he has NO chance of winning. Quit listening to the Media. Their job is to create controversy thus creating viewers and readers so THEY make MORE money. You're just a rube to them, don't fall for it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
20. Partially right...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:46 PM
Mar 2016

However he can get such a high percentage of the white vote that he can mitigate his damage among non white voters. That, however, would require him to receive a larger percentage of the white vote than any Republican in presidential history including Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon who own two of the largest electoral landslides in history.

EmperorHasNoClothes

(4,797 posts)
33. Like every election, it will be about turnout, not demographics
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:17 PM
Mar 2016

Trump is an insane, fascist idiot but he is really good getting his base of like minded idiots excited enough to turn out and vote for him.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
36. Newton's Third Law Of Physics.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction


Herr Trump will bring those who oppose his incipient fascist ass out of the proverbial woodwork.

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
18. Even if she were to win the election,
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:44 PM
Mar 2016

The party will lose with her at the helm.

They cannot beat Trump. He has no conscience, you cannot beat someone with no conscience using the same old tactics. Her way of doing things will not work. She does not have what it takes to win and keep the party intact so... No, she cannot beat Trump.

Bernie is the only one up there that can and, the article is right, a huge chunk of Bernie supporters will go Trump. It seems counter-intuitive but it is absolutely true. I see it every day.

Don't bother asking if I will, I will not. But my state will for sure.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
30. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:01 PM
Mar 2016
No, she cannot beat Trump.


The peer reviewed research suggests asking voters who they think will win is the best predictor of electoral success, ergo:



Simple surveys that ask people who they expect to win are among the most
accurate methods for forecasting U.S. presidential elections

https://forecasters.org/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/7-2a51b93047891f1ec3608bdbd77ca58d/2013/07/Graefe_vote_expectations_ISF.pdf
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Studies of prediction market accuracy for election forecasting commonly compare the
daily market forecasts to results from polls published the same day. These studies generally find
that prediction markets yield more accurate forecasts than single polls.

https://forecasters.org/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/7-2a51b93047891f1ec3608bdbd77ca58d/2013/07/Graefe_vote_expectations_ISF.pdf


Hillary Clinton is a nearly 1/3 favorite at the offshore betting sites and the VT senator is nearly a 30-1 underdog


http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner





The efficacy of polls nine months out in predicting a general election winner is essentially null:



Trial-heat polls, hereafter simply referred to as polls, ask respondents for whom they
intend to vote if the election were held today. That is, polls do not provide predictions; they
provide snapshots of public opinion at a certain point in time. However, this is not how the
media commonly treat polls. Polling results are routinely interpreted as forecasts of what will
happen on Election Day (Hillygus 2011). This can result in poor predictions, in particular if the
election is still far away, because public opinion can be difficult to measure and fragile over the
course of a campaign. However, researchers found ways to deal with these problems and to
increase the accuracy of poll-based predictions

https://forecasters.org/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/7-2a51b93047891f1ec3608bdbd77ca58d/2013/07/Graefe_vote_expectations_ISF.pdf








Gothmog

(145,152 posts)
31. If you really believe this, then you can make some good money on the options markets
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:02 PM
Mar 2016

The Democrats and Clinton are being given a 71% chance of winning in November. http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-winner The free market system disagrees with your assessment but the investors setting this price would be happy to take your money. Open an account and buy a contract if you really believe your analysis

smiley

(1,432 posts)
39. I'm sure the author of the op is thanking you for the kick..
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:07 PM
Mar 2016

And personally I think you would have to be detached from reality to think she doesn't have a gazillion monkeys on her back just waiting to drag her down.

But at the same time... maybe you're right. Old Donny, Hill, & Bill are great friends (you've seen the pic right?), so maybe he'll go easy on her.

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