2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPredictit: Who will win Presidential election: Hillary: .60, Trump: .29, Sanders: .07
https://www.predictit.org/Market/1234/Who-will-win-the-2016-US-presidential-electionThinkingabout
(30,058 posts)seekthetruth
(504 posts)...to be supporting a candidate who doesn't want to fight global warming as strongly as possible and begin curbing Americans' insatiable appetite for destructive, carbon-emitting fuels now before it's too late? (H)
I just don't get it. Honestly, can someone explain it to me?
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)On this site you're getting the slice of people who actually think Clinton is an inspirational figure and who are unrelenting in sweeping her transgressions away as all "VRWC" propaganda. Even the war of aggression she voted for and the one she engineered.
The majority she is very likely to put together in the general election is a combo of the minority who actually admire this politician, the larger anti-Republican vote, and of course various constituencies (about 30% of the population) whom Trump has directly targeted with accusations they are rapists, drug dealers, terrorists and scum.
seekthetruth
(504 posts)What is "VRWC"?
Just googled it....got it. Good grief, seriously? It's not propaganda when I actually hear the candidate give a plethora of caveats to fracking. Something that is causing earthquakes in the middle of the country.
And to reply to the individual who mentioned that Sanders, good grief.....1992? ARE YOU SERIOUS? You're digging stuff up from over 20 years ago? Oh, and plus, it was actually signed into law by Bill Clinton. So what's your point?
http://bluenationreview.com/bernie-pushed-to-dump-nuclear-waste-on-low-income-community/
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)And she has a realistic agenda. On the other hand Sanders was all for dumping Vermont's nucleus waste by poor people in Texas.
seekthetruth
(504 posts)But given the fact that we know that Hillary supports fracking, takes huge contributions from corporations in the financial, pharmaceutical, and oil industries, and changes her positions on things such as TPP and others, how does one who professes to be a liberal support such a candidate IN LIGHT of a true liberal like Sanders?
If the choices were, say, between Edwards and Hillary then I would probably choose Hillary. But we now have a chance to truly stand up for real change in this country. Do I believe that Sanders will get our young people free education? Probably not, if we keep taking a back seat to politics. But, like he says, if millions get energized and lobby their representatives, then I think we have a shot.
I'm just truly confused at all of the support for Hillary. She's not realistic, she's dishonest. Just my belief. And there's plenty of people like me.
Hate to say this, but I wonder how the average age of Hillary supporters compares to Sanders supporters. I think most older folk support Hillary. And given that, change is something that the older generation doesn't take to as easily as the younger generations.
It's sad to see the hippie generation sell out. Where did all of your passion go?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)This story. Does an unrealistic issue make him realistic, probably not. Continuing to say he is going to get free education is not being honest.
On the hippie part I was never involved, I have not sold out either. Don't ever forget for every person you see who is older has already experienced the age younger in order to get older. I dont complain about being older and wiser and more involved, I do not apologize for any of these things.
seekthetruth
(504 posts)Now, if we're talking about present day issues......how do you argue for fracking?
Check: http://bluenationreview.com/bernie-pushed-to-dump-nuclear-waste-on-low-income-community/
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Has to be dealt with before agreeing to tracking.
Where do you on dumping nuclear waste on poor people? Sanders voted to dump the waste on poor Latinos in Texas which was Vermont's waste.
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seekthetruth
(504 posts)How does fracking help combat climate change?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)HRC is at 69%
http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-winner