2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo Bernie said Joe Arpaio ambushed his wife. Does this look like an ambush to you?
Bernie Sanders: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Ambushed My Wife
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)kristopher
(29,798 posts)Since it seems the Clinton Group believes we're clear to attack family. Remember that inspiring, in-depth interview she did with the Geico gecko?
Hunter Walker
Jun. 13, 2014
On Friday morning, Politico published on the previously unknown and "closely held" details of former First Daughter Chelsea Clinton's contract with NBC News. According to the story, Clinton was given an annual salary of $600,000 when she joined NBC News as a "special correspondent" in November 2011. Based on these figures, Clinton has earned about $26,724 for each minute she subsequently appeared on air.
NBC News declined to confirm Politico's report about Clinton's salary. A spokesperson for the news outlet instead said they, "dont comment on details of existing contracts." Politico also said Clinton's contract "was up for renewal or nonrenewal this year" and she was placed on the payroll on a month-to-month basis to allow her to cut ties with the network if her mother, Hillary Clinton, launches her long rumored presidential bid in 2016.
Assuming Politico's reporting is correct and that Clinton is still earning at the same rate after moving to month-to-month payment, she has earned about $1.55 million from NBC News.
NBC News did not respond to multiple requests for comment from Business Insider asking for information about Clinton's salary or the number of appearances she has made since becoming a special correspondent. However, using Nexis, Business Insider identified 14 appearances Clinton has made on NBC News programs. A source familiar with Clinton's work for NBC told Business Insider "she has two completed reports scheduled to air next week and another two scheduled to begin shooting in the coming weeks."...
By Joe Coscarelli
...Chelsea's storytelling inspired people across the country and showcased the real power we have as individuals to make a difference in our communities, said NBC News senior vice president Alex Wallace. While she will be missed, we look forward to working with her in the future.
A search for her recent work turns up Oscar-Winning Actor Jeff Bridges Fights to End Childhood Hunger and Homework Diner Serves Up Education With a Side of Food (a follow-up to the same story from last year), along with Chelsea Clinton Pregnant: Marc and I Are Very Excited, Chelsea Clinton: Im Very Excited About First Child, and So Thrilled: Chelsea Clinton Announces Pregnancy.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/08/chelsea-clinton-leaving-her-fake-job-at-nbc.html
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)kristopher
(29,798 posts)I'm damned sure the thread doesn't serve any other purpose.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)try to keep up
kristopher
(29,798 posts)No experience even. I wonder if there is a connection between that and NBC/MSNBC being totally in the tank for Hillary? Nah, that's crazy talk...
senseandsensibility
(17,000 posts)everyone with two brain cells knows it.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)He's a right wing asshole and you are defending him?
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Hillary would not approve of your characterization of this.
LexVegas
(6,059 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I would treat him accordingly.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Jumped the shark this stuff has.
I am embarrassed for the party.
I know the other guys started it and are way worse, so why do you have to do in kind?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)He cooks them in 130 degree heat. If I did that to a dog I would be facing charges.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)higher position in your mind.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I can't believe he cooks his prisoners in 130 degree heat, makes his male prisoners wear pink garments to emasculate them, and feeds them food that looks like this:
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)horribly racist this country still is.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)A dog would disregard it.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)He says it is nutritious and he might be right but a prisoner would have to get past the sight of it to eat it in the first place.
He really is twisted; the heat, the pink undergarments, the food that looks like duty...Don't forget it's a jail so many of the people there haven't been found guilty of anything but are too poor to post bail or are there serving time for misdemeanors. It's not a prison where felons are housed.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)be beaten more often than they are, used to make profits for his buddies.
Sometimes you see something and you wonder why it is allowed.
Makes me very angry.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Why does he have to make it worse?
And if these people are going to get out one day. They are only going to be worse.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)Huzzah!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)41. Spoken like a true and stout internet warrior.
View profile
Huzzah!
If you are suggesting I am a coward there is nothing i can do to disabuse you of that notion.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Other pictures of Hillary and xxxx, torn apart and dismantled with all sorts of innuendos and interpretations, anything other that the courtesies provided at a moment in time when the picture was taken. One can only conclude there is a lot of hyporitical hyperbole involved.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Jane would not go to Joe's wedding. Hillary DID go to Trumps' wedding.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)You just can't help yourself.
Fwiw, I go to weddings of children of peers, because I have nothing against the daughter of the peer. I dislike the peer and do this for the sake of future business dealings and good will. Politics is even more wrought with such choices.
I don't make assumptions and presume to interpret the issues surrounding a picture in a moment in time, when I don't don't know the back story.
Autumn
(45,058 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)I realize the Bernie supporters have been so ridiculous attacking people here and elsewhere and attacking Hillary, but Jane is good, Joe is not.
Jane may not have known how to react any other way to this vicious racist.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)I see what goes on here, I know why you do what you do as to Bernie or his supporters, it makes sense.
But Jane and Bernie are good people, if it had been up to them you wouldn't have been subjected to endless racism and crap from people here or anywhere.
Bernie has badly mangled the economic and race issue but not out of intentional harm on his part, just white privilege ignorance.
It is easy as a white person, as well meaning as he is, to make that mistake. Doesn't excuse it, but explains it.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Best to leave him alone unless you are going to ACTUALLY CONFRONT HIM. Doesnt do to be seen smiling in his presense. People do not give benefits of doubt and at this point, with all the complaints about how tone deaf his campaign is, stuff like this will just serve to reinforce those ideas.
If meeting him or going to his facility, announce that you are going there to confront him. Then do it. Loudly and on camera. Shame him. No smiling.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)His position on the effects of economics on the race issue is identical to Dr. King.
Are you saying Dr. King didn't understand?
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)they should agree with you.
PLEASE
kristopher
(29,798 posts)The race baiting by Hillary camp anonymous internet gangs is beyond tiresome.
As we celebrate Kings great achievement and sacrifice, it is wrong to round off the sharp edges of his legacy. He saw inequality as a fundamental and tragic flaw in this society, and he made clear in the weeks leading up to his assassination that economic issues were becoming the central focus of his advocacy.
Nearly five decades later, Kings words on the subject still ring true. On March 10, 1968, just weeks before his death, he spoke to a union group in New York about what he called the other America. He was preparing to launch a Poor Peoples Campaign whose premise was that issues of jobs and issues of justice were inextricably intertwined.
One America is flowing with the milk of prosperity and the honey of equality, King said. That America is the habitat of millions of people who have food and material necessities for their bodies, culture and education for their minds, freedom and human dignity for their spirits. . . . But as we assemble here tonight, Im sure that each of us is painfully aware of the fact that there is another America, and that other America has a daily ugliness about it that transforms the buoyancy of hope into the fatigue of despair.
Those who lived in the other America, King said, were plagued by inadequate, substandard and often dilapidated housing conditions, by ...
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Over the many years, he's been visited and called out by many celebrities, the ACLU, social justice leaders, politicians, etc. He's an ardent Trump supporter, birther and never met a camera he didn't love. He has never excused or explained his inhumane treatment of the inmates. Unfortunately, like Trump, the publicity just seems to make Arpaio more popular.
On our local Phoenix news, he spun the "ambush" as taking Jane Sanders on a "personal tour" of the facility and discussing his policies with her. He also said that he's waiting for Hillary to show up so he can also take her on the tour. Hopefully Clinton won't take the bait and be another prop for his self-promotion.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)No true patriot or christian would do what he does or support it.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Everyone I personally know DESPISES Arpaio and we ALL campaign and vote for his opponent when he runs. But unfortunately he has a large following as "America's toughest sheriff"
I'm afraid that he'll be our sheriff until he dies or can physically no longer hold the job. He'll be 84 this June and shows no sign of quitting yet.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)two people comfortable to be around each other.
Autumn
(45,058 posts)kcr
(15,315 posts)I'm glad they're drawing attention to Arpaio's tent city.
TM99
(8,352 posts)The attempts here to prop up this lie are disgusting.
Jane Sanders did not meet with Arpaio. He appeared at Tent City while she was touring it to raise awareness of the hell pit that it is particularly for undocumenteds and minorities.
So she didn't scour or tell him to fuck off on live camera. Is that what you would have wanted her to say? Of course, then you could speak out of the other side of your mouth and say what a horrible and impolite person Jane Sanders is.
This is a sick and fucking disgusting game that will end finally when Clinton is defeated whether in the primary or GE.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)By his sadistic mistreatment he reveals more about himself than them.
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,895 posts)I'm wondering why you should be here. We don't want a Republican to win the General.
surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)... at the same time, squinting in the sun, and with people with microphones.
You're being way too gullible, or maybe you're just hoping other people will be.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)and was easily bulldozed by Sheriff Fuckwit.
I put this on the Mickey Mouse campaign staff that Sanders has running his show. How could they have let Jane get into a position where she was directly confronted by the Sheriff, and then ended up giving a megaphone to a dumbass like Arpaio?
That whole campaign just screams "amateur hour".
Sid
Response to SidDithers (Reply #16)
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elleng
(130,865 posts)'bulldozed?' No.
LET her get into a position where the SHERIFF could 'confront' her? It's the REAL WORLD, the Sheriff goes where he wants to go.
She did nicely, going so far as to have a conversation and make a joke by paralleling her support for her husband Senator Sanders with arpaio's stated support for trump. 'we'll agree to disagree.'
LiberalFighter
(50,895 posts)Anyone expecting to visit the site should expect a visit by someone from the Sheriff's office. Usually based on the pecking order. In this case it would be justified for the Sheriff to be there. He operates it. And he is going to squeeze ever bit of PR out that he can when it involves the national media.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)He looks elated in his own miserable way, actually.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)The Clintons had to be there as per the stipulation in Trump's agreement to donate to her campaign and the Clinton Foundation!! They don't seem like they were forced to be there and look like they were having a great time with Trump.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)sooooooshist tooo
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)because she is praying that Chavez would give her some rights to all that sweet petroleum...
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)correct
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)I thought I was going to be yelled at thanks to your tricky title!
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)all we want at $50 a barrel. Bush turned it down.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Jane Sanders.It's the campaign's job to foresee the fairly obvious. This wouldn't have surprised a well run campaign. I don't blame her though,what was she supposed to do,slap him? She made the best out of a bad situation that she shouldn't have been thrown into in the first place.Sanders should be blaming his campaign operatives and no one else.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)They played right into Arpaio's hands. He lives for the publicity.
The campaign made a mistake.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)You are backing up Joe Arpaio? I have tried to be very respectful of other people's opinion but this is beyond ridiculous!
"Arpaio, meanwhile, tweeted that when he heard Jane was in town he moved around some important-sounding appointments and ran right over:
His tweet
"Heard Jane Sanders was visiting my Tents jail, I adjusted my gun and armed Posse presser @4pm so I could give her a personal tour."
http://theslot.jezebel.com/jane-sanders-visits-arizona-sheriff-joe-arapios-infamou-1764982008
stone space
(6,498 posts)"Heard Jane Sanders was visiting my Tents jail, I adjusted my gun and armed Posse presser @4pm so I could give her a personal tour."
http://theslot.jezebel.com/jane-sanders-visits-arizona-sheriff-joe-arapios-infamou-1764982008
Blatant threats like this by racist xenophobic ammosexuals against the families of Presidential candidates should NOT be ignored.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)This ass just because it suits their politics.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Fundamental rule of Bernie fandom.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)And not allowed Jane to be put into a position for which she was unprepared.
Sid
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)The tweet and link I supplied above clearly shows Joe wanted to intimidate Jane.
randome
(34,845 posts)But so what? Maybe Sanders exaggerated. No big deal, imo.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesnt always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one youre already in.[/center][/font][hr]
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)synergie
(1,901 posts)a complete fool by allowing him to do so, while she nodded politely and didn't know enough to counter his falsehoods, or as a BS supporter in another thread insisted, Jane isn't clueless at all, and this was a deliberately engineered and enthusiastic courting of an unapologetic racist who runs his prison in a deplorable manner, like the private prisons that VT convicts are sent to, when they're arrested at a rate higher than Ferguson, MI.
You can't have it both ways.
I actually think she was dumb enough to get ambushed and didn't bother to do her homework and thus had no clue what to say or how to deal with him, so she smiled and nodded and let herself be used as a prop and gave him a soap box and free publicity.
The BS camp here really need to get their stories straight an figure out how to defend her here. It's legitimate to say that she's human and made a mistake, but for some reason neither Bernie nor his followers seem to be able to do that.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)"confront (someone) suddenly and unexpectedly with unwelcome questions.
"representatives were ambushed by camera crews""
That's exactly what he did. With cameras and all!
I still can't believe you guys are backing up Joe
frylock
(34,825 posts)Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Nothing should surprise us.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)mcar
(42,304 posts)still_one
(92,168 posts)media's attention, and try to justify the inhuman conditions of internment of the prisoners in tents with temperatures in excess of 100 degrees.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Poor Joe, such a deeply misunderstood guy, when his only motivation is his desire for the people under his care to get a good tan.
chillfactor
(7,574 posts)has been blown out of proportion.....especially here on DU....
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Sanders go to waste..............
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)What was she supposed to do, scowl at him or give him the finger?
leftinportland
(247 posts)what are you insinuating?
Onlooker
(5,636 posts)This is as silly as the thread showing a photo of Hillary with Kissinger. Jane Sanders, if anything, is guilty of being respectful and courteous.
senseandsensibility
(17,000 posts)she was so rude and offensive and he is so cool!
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)But generally if you are with Sheriff Joe, you are a fucking asshole.
TO BE CLEAR, ANYONE WiTH SHERIFF JOE IS A FUCKING ASSHOLE.
Now off to figure out the context.
Read the HP link, did my research and I stand corrected.
Anyone on DU who uses Sheriff Joe to slam a democrat or liberal is a fucking asshole.
TO BE CLEAR, ANYONE WHO CLAIMS TO BE A DEMOCRAT AND USES SHERIFF JOE TO MAKE POINT IS A FUCKING ASSHOLE.
And if anyone is tempted to alert on this, I dare you, because you aren't a Democrat, YOU ARE A FUCKING ASSHOLE!
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)So now there is a photograph of Jane and Joe, and Jane is even smiling. Oh noez!! Spread the picture around! Spam threads with this so everyone knows Jane and Joe are conspiring together. No context needed. The picture says is all. Just look at them!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Some of it is a sobering look at Sanders multiple vote against a pathway to citizenship. Not all, but a good many.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)I don't see how that helps the campaign, although it probably doesn't hurt it either.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)Just wondering. The OP makes it sound like Jane gave Sheriff Joe a big wet one on the lips. There doesn't seem to be an iota of outrage about the conditions the people in this hellhole are living in, but Jane . . . what the hell was she thinking to be there and not slug the guy?
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)surprised he is there. This photo does not come with a 'Hey your are invited' commentary.
jrandom421
(1,003 posts)It's HIS jail, and he would have had to give them permission to go in there with cameras. Anything else is criminally poor and lax security.
Expecting him not to show up when there are national cameras around is poor planning at best, and naïve at worst.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)That's 100% horse shit and you know it.
So please knock it off.
That kind of smear campaign in not appreciated by DU'ers including honest Hillary supporters.