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Hillary worked with Google CEOs to keep Benghazi video from public (Original Post) kgnu_fan Mar 2016 OP
Benghazi????? One of the 99 Mar 2016 #1
Benghazi? Sad,sad desperation.nt sufrommich Mar 2016 #2
What has happened to this place? Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #3
Going Gowdy isn't a good look. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #4
Newsmax, Freerepublic anyone?n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #5
Benghazi!!! nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #6
I remember in 2012 and 2013 when DUers smacked down any Benghazi talk. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #7
Can we think of some non-political reasons why? sofa king Mar 2016 #8
This helps HRC karynnj Mar 2016 #9

Stuckinthebush

(10,843 posts)
3. What has happened to this place?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:37 AM
Mar 2016

Benghazi? Really?

Whew. We've really gone off the deep end when people feel comfortable posting Benghazi garbage.

Carry on.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
4. Going Gowdy isn't a good look.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:38 AM
Mar 2016

Clinton fights conservative propaganda. That isn't a secret. Hmmmm. Who here continuously promotes it?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
7. I remember in 2012 and 2013 when DUers smacked down any Benghazi talk.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:43 AM
Mar 2016

It is a shame so many of those people today are engaging in right wing masturbatory fantasy now.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
8. Can we think of some non-political reasons why?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:46 AM
Mar 2016

* The video might demonstrate US surveillance techniques, providing a potential attacker with exploitable information on how the US sets up outpost surveillance;

* The video might identify individuals operating under non-official cover, jeopardizing their lives in the field;

* The video might provide tactical information to an attacker which they could use to adapt to American responses;

* The video would certainly be used as a recruiting tool for enemies of the United States, while serving only to harm American interests.

Allowing the video into the open would endanger American security interests, is the bottom line. There's no better reason to negotiate for its suppression.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
9. This helps HRC
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:03 AM
Mar 2016

The fact is that there were protests in tens of Islamic countries AFTER Benghazi happened over the film. The film was and is offensive to Muslims and there was real confusion in those countries, where the government does control media, as to why the US allowed this film to be made and distributed.

This action had little to do with the Republican charge that the Obama administration blamed a movie rather than terrorists for the attack. In fact, the first person in 2012 to raise the issue of the movie was Romney. The evening of the Benghazi attack immediately after we learned that the ambassador was killed, Romney went out with a statement, that backfired badly, that blamed the Obama administration and complained of the US CAIRO embassy putting out a statement disowning any US government connection to that movie. The reasons were that there were threats to the Cairo embassy because of anger over the film. The intent of that statement, put out by a career diplomat, was to tamp down the anger and reduce the danger. Romney called THAT a response to Benghazi - ignoring that it was issued BEFORE the attack in Benghazi and was not related.

Obama and Clinton both spoke of acts of terrorism when the bodies were returned to the US. In the strange world of Republican speak -- they both failed to use the exact, prescribed secret words - that likely would have been changed had they used the exact same words the Republicans were wanting. This instance of Obama saying "terrorism" was the one referenced by Candy Crowley, of all people, when Romney argued that Obama had never spoken of Islamofascist terrorism. )

Where the Republicans did get something to work with was when Susan Rice mentioned the movie in her talking points on 5 Sunday talk shows. Given that this was soon before the election and it was said in all the interviews, it is likely that someone on the reelection team thought that mentioning this was a good idea. It might have been to pull attention back to Romney's ill advised and damaging statement the day the attack happened. It might simply have been to divert from the obvious questions of whether the Benghazi attackers were actually the same Benghazis that the US entered the fray in Libya to defend.

That was the question I feared in 2012 - given the war weariness and the fact that the Obama message was that the Iraq war was over and the Afghanistan War almost done, Osama Bin Laden was dead, and things were getting more peaceful. Looking back at 2012, from what we now know was the situation in Syria, Libya, Yemen etc -- Obama was very lucky that Romney did not have the ability to exploit the real problems.

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