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FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:32 PM Mar 2016

Third Way and how they are deciding the Democratic Candidate for 2016 - (Educational)

I'm hearing lots of noise coming out of the political realm Third Way is seeking positions in a possible Hillary administration. Now before Hillary supporters jump to conclusions thinking I'm merely engaging in "Artful Smears" I would much rather hear suggestions and recommendations as to how we as Democratic Voters and supporters could persuade Hillary from NOT allowing that to happen.


Third Way has become the Clinton's Swift-Boat Campaign against Bernie Sanders


Wall Street’s Third Way Absurdly Wrong About Sanders’ Social Security Plan

Third Way is reaching the point of desperation in its quest to cut Social Security and protect its Wall Street, K Street lobbyist, and GOP donors from paying their fair share. As Third Way has become more and more marginalized, its public outpourings have become more and more extreme and, quite frankly, head-scratching.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nancy-altman/wall-streets-third-way-ab_b_9125786.html



Why Bernie Sanders Has Centrist Democrats Freaking Out

Startled by Bernie's success, Bill Daley is leading a Third Way revolt of centrist Democrats against the populist.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/why-bernie-sanders-has-centrist-democrats-freaking-out




They have also attacked Sen. Elizabeth Warren for her progressive views on her "Radical Agenda" of preserving Social Security



Warren On Third Way Criticisms: 'Oh Please'

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) said Thursday that think tank Third Way is "flatly wrong" about the solvency of Social Security.

"We could make modest adjustments and make the system financially stable for a century, and we could make somewhat larger adjustments and make the system pay more for seniors who rely on it," she told the Huffington Post. "The conversation for too long has been about whether to cut Social Security benefits a little bit or a lot. And that is flatly the wrong debate to have in mind."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/warren-responds-to-third-way-attack-defends-social-security-stance




Third Way is determined to Privatize Social Security

Now many here at DU may wish to ignore this, because Hillary's original position on changes to Social Security played nicely into Third Way's ultimate goal of privatizing Social Security. However over the course of the Primary Hillary has modified her positions on Social Security considerably.

My concern would be that she remain committed.



Wall Street Uses the Third Way to Lead Its Assault on Social Security

Third Way, lobbyists for and from Wall Street who are leading the effort to enrich Wall Street by privatizing Social Security, was created by Wall Street to fool some of the people all of the time. I have written previously to expose their fictional claims to be a moderate or liberal Democratic group.

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/12778-wall-street-uses-the-third-way-to-lead-its-assault-on-social-security




You can read Third Way's position on Social Security - Don't be too alarmed if you hear a lot of "Paul Ryan" in them.

http://www.thirdway.org/report/its-time-for-a-national-commission-on-social-security



And we as Americans should also be concerned about the Third Way's Globalist views given Neocon's propensity to engage in Wars of Opportunity.


Most troubling, perhaps, is the Third Way’s avowedly internationalist outlook, supporting greater global governance of the world economy. In concrete terms, this includes efforts to promote the stabilization of the movement of financial
capital, especially currency speculation, as well as increased funding for the International Monetary Fund. Alarmingly, the European Union project—continental Europe’s very own socialist Trojan Horse—is described as a pioneering phenomenon. In predictable communitarian fashion, the problem of how to live in a finite world consumes a significant portion of the Third Way’s intellectual resources. Dangerously, both for the competitive market and for the environment, most of the recommended solutions fit under
the disingenuous heading of “sustainable development,” i.e., command-and-control-style environmental economics on a global scale.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/ThirdWay.pdf




To Fellow DUers, I've attempted to present this as informational. I hope folks are not offended and actually take the time to gather information as to "How WE as Democratic Voters can preserve and defend our votes, our Democratic Candidates, and the 2016 Democratic Platform from being manipulated in the process'


Peace



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Third Way and how they are deciding the Democratic Candidate for 2016 - (Educational) (Original Post) FreakinDJ Mar 2016 OP
The people are deciding. frazzled Mar 2016 #1
If they wade through the Third Way Smear Jobs against Bernie FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #5
Or they just disagree with you about Bernie. 8 million people are not "duped" or "lazy" synergie Mar 2016 #7
Is there video or screen shots of all the disrespectful speech FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #8
Third way or Repuke? PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #2
great OP; if hrc were to get elected (not going to happen), Soc Sec would be irreperably harmed; amborin Mar 2016 #3
I'll give her the benefits of doubt for now FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #4
A good summary / collection is always informative. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #6
Already knew about this... SMC22307 Mar 2016 #9
Thanks FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #10

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. The people are deciding.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:35 PM
Mar 2016

Have some respect for the people. I find it tragic how so many here disrespect the democratic process and the people. I also find it somewhat scary: as if they would prefer a dictatorial regime. We live in a democracy. The people vote. You may not like their choice, but deal with it.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
5. If they wade through the Third Way Smear Jobs against Bernie
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:36 PM
Mar 2016

Unfortunately most don't make the effort

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
7. Or they just disagree with you about Bernie. 8 million people are not "duped" or "lazy"
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:54 PM
Mar 2016

they just don't think that Bernie is who they wish to be president. It's not because they are somehow stupid or lazy, as you imply. Lots of people who have waded through the smear jobs promoted by Bernie supporters and see Bernie clearly.

They don't like his lack of specifics, they don't like his voting record, they don't like the way he deals with people, and reporters, and women and his colleagues. They don't like the political expediency he chooses to exert when it's convenient for him and the cases when he's too ideologically pure to do what's right for Americans, they don't like his special carve out for certain corporations and not others.

They see Bernie quite clearly and it has nothing to do with "the Third way", so stop with the if they were only smart enough to believe what I believe about Bernie regardless of reality, they'd see him for the socialist carpenter I see him as!!

It's silly and hysterical.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
8. Is there video or screen shots of all the disrespectful speech
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:55 AM
Mar 2016

It's an honest question

I haven't been a part of it nor seen any of it -

But I've seen quite a few Hillary supporters talking about it. And in light of all the disingenuous Smear Tactics played out on Bernie's Civil Rights record I would have to see it for myself before I take your word on it

Call me sheltered from reality but do you have anything other than accusations

amborin

(16,631 posts)
3. great OP; if hrc were to get elected (not going to happen), Soc Sec would be irreperably harmed;
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:41 PM
Mar 2016

and, just wait until the TTIP

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
4. I'll give her the benefits of doubt for now
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:07 PM
Mar 2016

But changes that mandate Means Testing coupled with Sequester cuts would play directly into Third Way's plan to privatise social security

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
9. Already knew about this...
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:00 AM
Mar 2016

but your links provided more detailed info. Thanks.

I don't trust Hillary one whit on this issue.

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