2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow many mistakes, misstatements, misspeakings and outright wrong decisions did HRC made in
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her professional career that have cost people to lose their livelihood and or lives? Please help compile that list.
And to the Hill Cheersquad, why would you want someone with questionable decision making skills become the leader of this country?
1. Iraq
2. Honduras
3. Healthcare flub, Bernie was standing behind her in 93/94.
4. Shape-shifting aka changing positions when it is politically convenient.
5. NAFTA
6. Libya
7. Sniper fire Bosnia
8. Death broke when they left the white house.
9. Change in her opinion on bankruptcy bill from 2001
10. Hillary Clinton Voted to Continue Cluster Bombing Civilians
11. Pro TPP called it the gold standard in trade agreements. Before she was against it.
12. "Misspoken" during Nancy Reagan's funeral about gays and HIV.
13. She had the prison industrial complex in her superpac.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Lets talk about Robot Sanders. Same rhetoric everyday. He doesn't directly answer questions from reporters either. He side tracks to his same ol rhetoric every time. As days go by he is getting meaner and grumpier. He walks out on interviews rather than answer hard questions. He is not presidential at all.
insta8er
(960 posts)I guess it all comes down to ones own values.
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Broward
(1,976 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Oh, and yeah, it must be strange, Bernie has stood by the same principles his whole life, and Hillary changes her "principles" to suit the audience, the poll, the focus group.
OMFG.
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djean111
(14,255 posts)and would be, IMO, responsible for the deaths of many more. Not an acceptable substitute for Bernie. No matter how nastily you smear him.
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Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)recommending such behavior?
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Make your own judgments.
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)These are all ideas I recall coming across in the '70s or late '60s, and reflective of social-scientific research quite popular back in the day.
The Sanders quote that comes closest to the above hidden false accusation merely poses what is, imho, an entirely reasonable question (then and now):
By the way, such a sense of guilt was imposed on me in my childhood (it was the norm), and I'm a guy. For quite a while the consequences hurt a lot.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Luckily I've moved on now.
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)If she was a male with her right wing politics and mile long list of sleaze, graft, and corruption, she wouldn't even hae entered the race.
onecaliberal
(32,811 posts)CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)onecaliberal
(32,811 posts)Is that why she wrote him a letter thanking him for all his support? Don't bother I won't see it.
dchill
(38,462 posts)that didn't hunt.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I guess this flip flop should be added to the list.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
insta8er
(960 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
one_voice
(20,043 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)Zira
(1,054 posts)Seeinghope
(786 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Get out the airsickness bags, seems like those evasive/defensive? type landings were routine in countries with danger from snipers.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)But the parts that I can read, without trying to figure out what your misspellings and grammatical errors may mean, is complete nonsense.
insta8er
(960 posts)makes you feel better.
Seeinghope
(786 posts)According to Warren, Clinton went back to the White House and urged the administration to oppose the legislation. And in 2000, President Bill Clinton vetoed the Bankruptcy Reform Act.
Mrs. Clinton took credit for that veto, Warren told Moyers. She turned around a whole administration on the subject of bankruptcy. She got it.
Warren also noted, Clinton went on to support bankruptcy reform legislation in 2001, when she was a senator.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/elizabeth-warren-hillary-clinton_us_562e4eefe4b0ec0a389519e3
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)insta8er
(960 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)insta8er
(960 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)screech whenever anyone dares point out she's the only one they have to protesting anymore (especially since it makes the Jew look good), and now Arpaio
pugetres
(507 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)From the Washington Post 2015/10/08:
And of course, Ms. Clintons opposition to the TPP flies in the face of her repeated statements to the opposite effect when she was Mr. Obamas secretary of state and after. Its safe to say that the TPP wont be perfect no deal negotiated among a dozen countries ever will be but its higher standards, if implemented and enforced, should benefit American businesses and workers, Ms. Clinton wrote in her post-State Department memoir, Hard Choices. As Ms. Clinton understood then, the TPP was not only about economics but also about geopolitics. Its particularly crucial to Mr. Obamas essential effort to strengthen U.S. ties to Japan and other East Asian nations, thus counterbalancing China, a rebalance for which Ms. Clinton once proudly claimed some authorship.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ms-clinton-avoids-the-hard-choice-on-the-trans-pacific-partnership/2015/10/08/a795a0cc-6df6-11e5-9bfe-e59f5e244f92_story.html
edit to add from business insider:
As a member of the Obama administration, Clinton repeatedly boosted the deal. CNN once even tallied up 45 times Clinton pushed the Trans-Pacific Partnership, including when she called it a "gold standard in trade agreements."
http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-tpp-trans-pacific-trade-bernie-sanders
I add this as it should leave one to question taking advise from someone, and is now saying she was wrong because she didn't know the details. Flogging an idea of great importance that you know close to nothing about, except that it is golden? Why would she believe it was a 'gold standard'? Who told her that, and why repeat it blindly?
Zira
(1,054 posts)and tell eveyrone she would donate the money from them to charity and that she didn't realize she had the prison industrial complex in her superpac. She did this only after the Huffington Post exposed her for having them in it.