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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 11:11 AM Jan 2012

McCain Admits Evangelicals Coalescing Around Santorum Bad For Romney

McCain Admits Evangelicals Coalescing Around Santorum Bad For Romney

On State of the Union, Romney surrogate John McCain admitted that a decision by a large group of evangelical leaders over the weekend to endorse Rick Santorum was a hit to Romney’s campaign and might make a small difference in South Carolina. But, he argued, he still expected Romney to win.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/updates/4089


From yesterday:

BREAKING: Social Conservatives Officially Unite on Rick Santorum As Romney Alternative | Moments ago, Family Research Council President Tony Perkins announced on a conference call that social conservatives had officially settled on Rick Santorum as their preferred candidate for the Republican nomination. The decision was made today after three rounds of balloting at a meeting of more than 150 social conservative leaders and political activists held over the last two days in Brenham, Texas. Though the meeting was widely seen as an effort to settle on a candidate to stop Mitt Romney, Romney’s own campaign sent a representative to make an appeal to the group and Perkins said it was “not a bash Romney weekend” and “not a lot of time” was spent discussing him. Jon Huntsman’s campaign was the only campaign not to participate in the meeting.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/01/14/404546/breaking-social-conservatives-officially-unite-on-rick-santorum-as-romney-alternative/


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McCain Admits Evangelicals Coalescing Around Santorum Bad For Romney (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2012 OP
Don't evangelicals consider Catholics and Mormons to not be christian? rbixby Jan 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #2
Theologically customerserviceguy Jan 2012 #8
And ponder this, how about a Romney-Santorum ticket this fall? Kurmudgeon Jan 2012 #3
Shouldn't they be coalescing around Gingrich? aaaaaa5a Jan 2012 #4
Another reason asjr Jan 2012 #5
Romeny has too problems - one his personality and two his Mormonism TlalocW Jan 2012 #6
There will be a third choice customerserviceguy Jan 2012 #9
At this point, the fundies have to take any religious reactionary. Dawson Leery Jan 2012 #7
What's going to be even worse... Hampton Jones Jan 2012 #10
Mirr does NOT stand a reasonable chance of being elected. See on this page. denem Jan 2012 #11

Response to rbixby (Reply #1)

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
8. Theologically
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 05:48 PM
Jan 2012

Catholicism and all Protestant offshoots have much, much more in common than the LDS faith and any pre-Joseph Smith Christian denomination. Please note that I am not saying that Mormonism or its offshoots are not Christian, just that there are very major differences in their basic conceptions of things that nobody can prove one way or another. I'm an atheist, and all religion is made up nonsense to me, but I support the First Amendment freedom to think and believe any way you want to with regard to this, and to act accordingly as long as it does not infringe on the rights of those who believe differently.

Here's the difference: Mormon missionaries. Right now, when the LDS missionaries go door-to-door, they can cite only a few famous people as Mormons: Steve Young, Gladys Knight (without her Pips) and some obscure dead white guys who were Cabinet officers during the Eisenhower administration or thereabouts. Oh, and the Osmonds.

They'd love to have at least a major party Presidential nominee that everybody's heard of on that list, and they'd shit themselves silly if there were a sitting President who they could cite on the list. On the other hand, Catholics really aren't all about poaching people from other religions the same way that Fuller Brushes used to be sold, they'd be happy just to get escapees like me back into their mindfuck.

There's your big fat difference.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
5. Another reason
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:17 PM
Jan 2012

for separation of church and state. This is in direct conflict with it. Religious leaders should not be "electing" our president for us. "Selecting" is more like it. If this were muslims trying to intervene these so-called Christians would be screaming bloody murder!

TlalocW

(15,378 posts)
6. Romeny has too problems - one his personality and two his Mormonism
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 01:14 PM
Jan 2012

If he gets the nomination (which I think he will), he still has to overcome the inertia he'll face in getting the evangelicals who consider Mormonism a cult (it is) out to vote. These people have been told for years by their pastors that Mormonism is as big a danger as Islam, liberals, pornography, etc., and while the pastors may do a 180 and fall in line behind Mitt, a lot of Joe Sixpack on the religious side are going to be thinking, "My choices are a Mormon or a Muslim? I'm just going to stay home."

TlalocW

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
9. There will be a third choice
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 05:53 PM
Jan 2012

and no, I'm not talking about Ron Paul, although if Mittens gets it, he'll be on that ballot, too.

Most certainly, the fundies will find their own third party candidate to run as a 'principled' choice, and the Republicons really won't oppose it. It will get fundie voters out who will vote for Rev. Joe Blowhard of the Church of Everlasting Damnation and then just vote straight Repuke down the rest of the ticket.

They'll order Mitt not to pick on the Rev. Joe in the debates, even when Blowhard starts up with his anti-Mormon screed.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
7. At this point, the fundies have to take any religious reactionary.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 03:42 PM
Jan 2012

Mittens does not fit the bill, and Santorum does not have as many problems as Newt, so Rick gets their endorsement.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
11. Mirr does NOT stand a reasonable chance of being elected. See on this page.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:06 AM
Jan 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512077

Riddle me that.

But a continuing split the Not Romney camp - Newt & Santorum, benefits
you guessed it Romney.

Santorum may do worse than Romney,
but Mitt would be an unmitigated disaster for the GOP.
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