Sanders has taken in $96.3 million and has spent $81.6 million. There are 4 months left until the

[upaloopa]

convention.

Given that he is behind in delegates and needs 65% of remaining delegates to catch Hillary, and given that the the percentage he needs goes up every time he he doesn't reach the amount needed, I don't think he will have cash enough to make it to the convention.

At least he won't be able to afford the campaign he has been running. He paid Ted Devine $850K for one month.

But maybe he can get people to fund a losing cause I don't know.

[TCJ70]

1. "He paid Ted Devine $850K for one month." - FALSE

That's not true. The company owned by Ted Devine was paid that much. Their firm does consulting and advertising. Similar line items for the Hillary campaign are:

GMMB 16,604,798.72
Bully Pulpit Interactive LLC 1,040,000.00

That's one consulting firm and one advertising firm. I think Bernie's doing alright.

[JonLeibowitz]

4. Their previous "investigative" thread did not go as planned.

So now they will post these as facts not under dispute, in many many OPs it is the standard tactics.

[TCJ70]

5. That's why I'm glad I got it in first...

...and I'm still waiting for DemocratSinceBirth to edit his posts. I think I'll be waiting some time for that...

[riversedge]

8. So, is he amt. taken in and the amt spent the true numbers (in the OP).

[synergie]

11. Is that why there are so very many anti-Hillary threads in the GD-P? These are your

standard tactics? Good to know.

[CoffeeCat]

42. Trying to dissuade Sanders supporters from contributing

That seems to be the goal of the OP.

The hot-off-the-presses news is that Sanders out-raised Hillary two months in a row.

I think this has them hoping that spreading some seeds of doubt could be useful in suppressing further donations.

<snicker>

I don't know about you...but I don't come to a messageboard seeking advice about where I donate my money. And certainly, I've never been dissuaded from supporting Bernie with contributions from some anonymous source on a messageboard.

Why people engage in these fruitless tactics is beyond me. They don't work.

[JonLeibowitz]

43. It is borne simply out of hate, hate for someone who would dare to talk about progressive ideas

I take these smears as evidence they really do have nothing on this candidate and hope to distract and smear. But by doing so they reveal their true self. Here are some of the hateful comments from the twitter thread that this particular smear comes from (All Hilllary supporters):

https://twitter.com/jconsolantis/status/712133771328430084

@mill09 At $27 a pop that's 30,000 suckers who got bilked of their $$ to line Davines pockets. What's in Janes bra?

Simply incredible comment, he has so much class to be talking about a candidate's wife like that. I'm sure the forthcoming article about degrading Hillary supporter's comments is going to be great. HillBros?

https://twitter.com/tyler_tortoise/status/712144941971951616

@yodaquoter @CherokeeNative3 @mill09 He is a scammer. Selling a revolution to the millennials. The real reason he wants white states is $

And @mill09 follows up and agrees.

Targeting a specific race to bilk $$? Because only white people have money? Racism from Clinton supporters? Say it ain't so!

[CoffeeCat]

47. Hillarious!

Such ambition! Posting "Don't donate to Bernie" talking points on DU AND Twitter!

It's a full-on campaign, by God!

...that will persuade no one.

[sufrommich]

9. Where is Tad Devine's salary posted in the campaign's

monthly expenses?

[TCJ70]

12. It's not...

...which only means no checks were written to him as an individual. It does not mean he pocketed 800k.

[sufrommich]

13. Then Sanders campaign manager is actually a corporation.nt

[JonLeibowitz]

18. Or a contract employee.

[sufrommich]

23. All paid campaign workers are contract employees,

what else would they be? Robby Mook is a contract employee too and yet his monthly salary is published.

[Armstead]

39. If Devine operates a business and Sanders is paying his business...

his salary is not a factor.

It's like if the campaign hires a catering busines to provide food for campaign workers and events, the salary of the owner of the catering service is not a factor.

[riderinthestorm]

56. Jeff Weaver is Bernie’s campaign manager. He makes $118k/yr

Robby Mook is Hillary's campaign manager and makes $121k/yr.

Tad Devine's company has been hired as a campaign consulting firm.

[synergie]

14. I'm curious as well. Also, these are the firms that work with Monsanto

and the dictators and the Goldman Sachs execs? That's pretty low in the sex degrees of association game they keep trying to play with their opponents. I wonder what would happen if and when Bernie and his staff are ever vetted?

[Armstead]

32. Is that $16 Million?

If so, Bernie's getting a bargain

[TCJ70]

37. That's copied directly from her report. So yes...

...$16 Million. Yet they feel the need to distort Bernie's payments to an entire company as payments to one guy. Talk about smear campaigns...

[itsrobert]

2. The money is drying up

More like flushed away. Imagine how much tuition that money could have been used for.

[marmar]

24. Like paying for the election of another useless neoliberal?

[Autumn]

46. Why do our donations to our candidate have to do with tuition? Oh hey lets imagine

Hillary were to finally pay the bills she owes from this campaign to reimburse tax payer money spent for services they provided for her campaigns Katy Perry concert last October.

http://whotv.com/2016/03/11/police-frustrated-with-clinton-campaign-over-unpaid-bills/

[riderinthestorm]

57. $$ spent to get an urgent message out. I consider it an investment in our future nt

[DanTex]

3. Bernie fans better start donating! Tad Devine needs a second home!

[Half-Century Man]

6. done

[synergie]

15. He'll need other things too, you'd better donate again.

[Half-Century Man]

31. Soon.

Don't worry. Just stew quietly in your establishment crockpot of hate. Did you forget, you folks don't need us.

[KPN]

55. Booyah! +16 million!

[redstateblues]

7. The payment on Tad's yacht is due!

[DemocracyDirect]

10. Disgusting.

The OP deserves my second total hide.

[synergie]

17. For stating a few facts? I sees why the BSers are so upset about not being able to

alert stalk and silence people who bring up pesky facts and unpleasant numbers. It must be so hard for you.

[CoffeeCat]

44. Do you actually believe that there is any Sanders supporter

who reads your posts--and then bases personal-financial and campaign-contribution decisions on your words?

[DemocracyDirect]

61. Grave dancers are pathetic.

I've never alerted anyone.
I am happy to debate issues or highlight differences and concerns between platforms.
We need to come together at some point and this certainly doesn't help.
This thread is over the top and disgusting.

[HumanityExperiment]

16. Why do you care...

You have stated in so many other OPs and replies you 'can not stand that man'

So please spare us the troll threads and replies you post

Obviously ideology and principle aren't your focus, only a specific candidate regardless of progressive ideology and principal

GL with that, and allow the rest of us to continue to support a candidate that holds, promotes, and defends the progressive ideals we want to keep in this primary cycle as well as the GE

[upaloopa]

21. As soon as the anti Hillary stuff stops. Deal?

[HumanityExperiment]

29. is this like releasing speech transcripts....

the parallels are striking...

I focus on ideology and principal, your anger and angst against Bernie as a person is noted

HRC isn't a progressive, she doesn't hold nor champion my ideals and principals

[synergie]

22. And the same people who go on about their feral hate of Hillary still post threads

and posts about how much they hate her, so why pretend that ideology and principle are at play here, or are a focus of anyone pretending they care.

This is the GD-P, and you're free to express your support of Hillary here, as much as you'd like.

If you wish to ensconce yourself in a Bernie bubble, and avoid unpleasant facts about how his actions don't quite match his words and stated ideals, then feel free to wander into the Bernie Group where you post as you wish, without being exposed to a single negative thing about Bernie, ever and you can drift happily believing he is perfect and worthy and Jesus-like (as I believe a few threads in that group have opined) as you wish undisturbed by reality or facts.

Run along if you can't tolerate simple facts and honest questioning about where all that money is going with a campaign that keeps insisting that money and politics don't mix, but which is burning through it at an alarming pace. That's a legitimate question, and allow those of us who can handle reality and facts to discuss.

[HumanityExperiment]

33. pretend?...

Who's 'pretending'?

history isn't your friend now is it, you do realize that all I have to do is look over each candidate and their histories, the policies and ideology they've carried through the years and any and all shifts within that context...

You do realize who's been the most consistent and strongest to progressive ideals do you not? Oh wait... you don't

[alcibiades_mystery]

19. I've donated $0 to the Clinton campaign

I'll donate when necessary.

[shadowandblossom]

53. How about a dollar?

it adds up and shows support. (I sold my bookcase to donate to her.)

Or you could donate to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committe Website, and help get Dems in the house! It's a benefit to all of us.

[alcibiades_mystery]

54. Nah

When needed, I'll donate.

She doesn't need my money during this mopping up operation.

[shadowandblossom]

59. well I gave it a shot

[riderinthestorm]

20. Sorry but Bernie’s message is not a losing cause. I'm grateful he's already reached this many people

And will continue to donate so he can continue to reach many millions more.

[upaloopa]

26. I have a question for you. Why does a revolution like Bernie talks about dependent on him?

Does it really matter who is in the White House for people to rise up?

I understand that Occupy did not have a political agenda and is till alive so why not build on that?

[riderinthestorm]

40. Bernie’s message is an offshoot of Occupy so yes, its been growing since September 2011

That its gotten this far in just 5 years is a testament to the power of the anger and rage people are feeling.

I would think Hillary supporters would rather this movement stayed channeled through the political process. Revolutions that take to the streets end badly, especially for unpopular "leaders" in government.

So short answer is no, its not dependent on Bernie. Furthermore I'm thinking that's not a good thing for Hillary.

An anecdote : in my far west Chicago suburban Sanders campaign office we had @ 200 regular volunteers. Last night there was an jnformal get together, just a text message blast saying "come on by! Let's figure out where we go from here!"

Bernie lost IL remember? Yet almost all 200 of us were there last night - too many to fit in the 20x20 office space so we held it in the parking lot outside in the dark and cold.

We're not going away and this movement isn't dying.

[upaloopa]

62. I am glad for you

I don't want it to go away. I just want you all to some day realize that the narrative you all invented about Hillary is false.

[Orsino]

25. Gloating does not become us. n/t

[upaloopa]

27. But can I be happy for my candidate? Is that ok with you?

[Orsino]

38. That would be a very different OP.

The one we've got here is just a gloat, and does not become us.

[Betty Karlson]

28. The desperate attempts to force Sanders out are starting to look like a farce. eom

[Marr]

30. If Hillary fans are scared enough to still be lying like this, that makes me feel good. /nt

[KoKo]

35. It does make one wonder...

[bkkyosemite]

34. You are wrong. I have only given a couple of hundred dollars of my $27.00 ....there is tons of

money left to give from tons of people.

Why aren't you spying on Hillary's in and out on funds.

[artyteacher]

36. basically hes being paid millions of dollars.

To give speeches and see the country.

[Autumn]

48. Yeah Hillary saw the world

on the taxpayer dime.

[workinclasszero]

41. Tad Devine is making bank

I think that's all that matters for Bernies brain trust.

That plus attacking Hillary 24/7 all the way to the convention to weaken her in the GE, lots of people will pay cash for that sadly.

[Kittycat]

45. Bernie is doing an incredible job getting the message out

that I am helping fund. It's about time a politician listened to me. It's good to know so many other americans out there agree, and he's opening so many more up to our way of thinking. I better get some more money over there, so he can keep spreading the word. This will really help push the message and agenda home in the coming years. Especially with this many actively engaged supporting willing to fund campaign for it.

[woodsprite]

49. Just donated again, and bought 2 rally signs and another yard sign. n/t

[shadowandblossom]

51. Great How about donating to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee website too

Help give the congress needed to get something done! Peace

[shadowandblossom]

50. If you want to help the revolution

I just wish he would use some of that to help downticket dems and support those that the "revolution" requires to exist. I think there are still people who will give him money. On that note, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is looking for funds to help Dems get elected to congress, DONATE TO THEM TOO! Let's take back the HOUSE so we can get out of gridlock and get good policies through.

[Bjornsdotter]

52. No worries!

.....we won't let Bernie down financially.

[SamKnause]

58. He paid Ted Devine $850K for one month.

That is an outright lie.

You know this.

The Bernie campaign is doing just fine.

His campaign has millions of people who will donate.

[Loudestlib]

60. lol

Bernie Sanders out-raised Hillary Clinton by $13.4m in February. Most of Sanders donations are small donations from lots of people. Most of Hillary's donations are big donations from a few people. What this means is that the Sanders supporters can still still give a lot! The Hillary supporters are almost maxed out.

If you think that if Hillary wins the primary, the Sanders supporters win start donating to Hillary, you're in for a shock. Some of Sanders supporters might vote for her but they're not going to donate or volunteer for one of the most disliked democratic nominees in modern history. If she wins the primary she'll run out of money and supporters in the general election.