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Lorien

(31,935 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:21 PM Mar 2016

The DNC is trying to pull in Arizona what they pulled in Florida!!

Here in Florida my Independent friends who had registered as Democrats many months ago were all turned away on election day and during early voting, told that they "weren't registered", even when they HAD their registration! Now the SAME shenanigans are happening in Arizona!


Something Is Going Seriously Wrong at Arizona Polls Today

Arizona’s primaries aren’t even done yet, and there’s already legal action being taken as a result of incompetence or possibly even intentional sabotage.

Leaders from the Arizona branch of the Democratic Party have confirmed that its lawyers are officially making an inquiry after multiple Democratic voters showed up to the polls only to find that they were listed as independents, Republicans, or had no party affiliation at all.

Many voters wound up having to wait in line under the hot Arizona sun only to find that they were ineligible to vote for the candidates of their choice. To add insult to injury, the polling locations have been so poorly planned that many voters had to wait in line up to four hours before finding out that their information had been improperly filed.

More:
http://usuncut.com/news/arizona-polling-disaster/
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The DNC is trying to pull in Arizona what they pulled in Florida!! (Original Post) Lorien Mar 2016 OP
The State and counties are running the primary RandySF Mar 2016 #1
Shame on you for injecting facts into the discussion. LonePirate Mar 2016 #6
You're right! That suggests there is some sort of interstate collusion from a national organization. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #15
Do you realize how many people would have to be involved? NCTraveler Mar 2016 #40
It doesn't matter if it makes sense. mythology Mar 2016 #59
Thank you for the link. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #61
ANYONE can apply to be a poll worker Lorien Mar 2016 #18
Wow... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #41
I think you will need a lot more of these to pass out Andy823 Mar 2016 #65
And, while it doesn't fit the crazy ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #66
Yes, I was wondering how problems could be the fault of the DNC. yellowcanine Mar 2016 #50
Quit it with this "reality" hogwash Dem2 Mar 2016 #51
You mean they are trying to steal votes from Hillary??? nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #2
Corrupt assholes. polichick Mar 2016 #3
I am not going to "unite" with what I consider ratfuckers. djean111 Mar 2016 #4
You're blaming the wrong ratfuckers RandySF Mar 2016 #10
No one is switching parties to vote for Hillary. Crabby Abbey Mar 2016 #55
True, it's hard to unite with the antagonists HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #46
The DNC is so pervasive and evil they are everywhere rbrnmw Mar 2016 #5
They screwed up my paycheck and wired funds from my bank to the Clinton campaign! kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2016 #37
Why don't you think that we are dealing with simple incompetence? Vattel Mar 2016 #7
We may as well be voting in Russia !! pangaia Mar 2016 #8
Pretty disgusting... And the Dem party in Arizona will "investigate".., yea, right. SURE they will.. peacebird Mar 2016 #9
The Clinton team has been busy for 7 years laying the groundwork FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #11
My head is spinning RandySF Mar 2016 #14
Your head isn't what's spinning, Randy. Lorien Mar 2016 #22
Kind of like the gop's characterization of ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #44
Everything is a tinfoil conspiracy with Camp Sanders, ins't it? Tarc Mar 2016 #12
She has so many bureaucratic errors working in her favor! She should Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #32
This DNC would make Jimmy Carter hang his head in shame. nt Snotcicles Mar 2016 #13
The DNC does not run state and county primaries. randome Mar 2016 #16
I'm talking about in general, the way they are trying to stifle the competition. Snotcicles Mar 2016 #24
If all else fails try reason upaloopa Mar 2016 #29
Yeah! Who cares if Arizona has a REPUBLICAN Governor and a REPUBLICAN Secretary of State!!! brooklynite Mar 2016 #17
as if state officials cant be bought reddread Mar 2016 #19
Lol. bunnies Mar 2016 #30
I AM SICK OF THIS SHIT FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #53
Bernie and Trump appear to have a lock on the paranoid delusional vote n/t Onlooker Mar 2016 #20
Don't forget the Republicans are also voting RandySF Mar 2016 #21
USUncut it is a mouthpiece for the Sanders campaign. sufrommich Mar 2016 #23
But Hillary personally went to each and every voter and told them they could vote! randome Mar 2016 #26
Clinton is leading with registered democrats. Not much education sufrommich Mar 2016 #28
His campaign has been shown to have a really shitty ground game. nt. Trenzalore Mar 2016 #49
Arizona SecState website says primary is open voting. kristopher Mar 2016 #64
When people steal elections.... TheProgressive Mar 2016 #25
Nobody is stealing an election upaloopa Mar 2016 #31
Is this the denial or anger stage? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #27
Whether you are for Clinton or Sanders hindering in any way the voting process is shameful. Juicy_Bellows Mar 2016 #33
bernie actually gets 100% of votes cast in every election but fraud makes it look like less nt msongs Mar 2016 #34
Uh oh Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #35
This is likely not an accident. We seem to be seeing a pattern. Jarqui Mar 2016 #36
Maybe it just looks that way creeksneakers2 Mar 2016 #62
We seem to be seeing a pattern here: COLGATE4 Mar 2016 #68
Curious ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #38
Ignorance or just seeking out an excuse. RandySF Mar 2016 #39
Randy you do understand that this effected Hillary voters today too? jillan Mar 2016 #43
Yes it has RandySF Mar 2016 #45
Agreed - this is stupid incompetence more than anything else - as far as we know at this moment. jillan Mar 2016 #56
And republican voters, too ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #47
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2016 #67
omg - I didn't realize this happened in Florida too. It's been nuts around here today. jillan Mar 2016 #42
All righty then workinclasszero Mar 2016 #48
When a party goes to this length to make sure you can't vote maybe it's time to leave. onecaliberal Mar 2016 #52
Primary is run by state not party nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #58
Hillary hardly needs to cheat to win; it's Bernie who is going after superdelegates and ... Onlooker Mar 2016 #54
Are BSS watching too many X Files reruns or too much "Ancient Aliens"? redstateblues Mar 2016 #57
Could the AZ voters file a class action lawsuit against the state? PADemD Mar 2016 #60
My bro just called from az shanti Mar 2016 #63

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
6. Shame on you for injecting facts into the discussion.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:25 PM
Mar 2016

The OP was on a fine DNC rant. Why derail it with the truth?

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
15. You're right! That suggests there is some sort of interstate collusion from a national organization.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:30 PM
Mar 2016

Good observation!

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
40. Do you realize how many people would have to be involved?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:50 PM
Mar 2016

It's unreal how many people would have to be involved in this conspiracy.

What we have seen is incompetence in some places in some states. Incompetence at certain polling places. Some of these in Clinton areas, some in Sanders.

It's not a conspiracy but is something that must be addressed.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
59. It doesn't matter if it makes sense.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:32 PM
Mar 2016

All that matters is that it's a desperate attempt to cling to the belief that Sanders must be more popular because they prefer him.

A lot of these posts remind me of this:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/03/denial-science-chris-mooney

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
18. ANYONE can apply to be a poll worker
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:31 PM
Mar 2016

and poll workers threw Dems out of polling places on election day in 2000.

Your people volunteer to phone bank for Bernie and phone bank for Hillary instead. Now you feign innocence on this as well? You are completely full of it and you KNOW it!

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
65. I think you will need a lot more of these to pass out
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:22 PM
Mar 2016


Seems like a whole lot of people can't seem to understand the fact that the state "REPUBLICANS" are in charge of this mess. I guess its just easier for some to ignore those facts.
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
66. And, while it doesn't fit the crazy ...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:26 PM
Mar 2016

if this IS, in fact, Maricopa county designed chaos, the target is far more likely to be trump than ANY Democrat.

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
50. Yes, I was wondering how problems could be the fault of the DNC.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:04 PM
Mar 2016

The DNC is not responsible for maintaining registration lists, county election boards do that.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
46. True, it's hard to unite with the antagonists
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:59 PM
Mar 2016

"The Party" has a serious problem. It's Establishment can't live with the progressive Left, and it can't win without it.

It can't decide whether to quit disenfranchising the Left, whether thry should court the Left rather than demand fealty, or try to scare the Left by suggesting that the Left has much more to fear from Trump than the disenfranchisement and treatment as illegitimates at the hands of The TRUE Party Loyalists.

I'm guessing the plan is to continue the abuse until the Left gets its head on straight.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
11. The Clinton team has been busy for 7 years laying the groundwork
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:27 PM
Mar 2016

for 2016. That includes the fraud at the local level. I really do not like Hillary Clinton even a little.

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
12. Everything is a tinfoil conspiracy with Camp Sanders, ins't it?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:28 PM
Mar 2016

It can't ever be simple bureaucratic error due to unexpected turnout could it?

I mean, why go for the sensible explanation when you can grasp for the batty one?

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
32. She has so many bureaucratic errors working in her favor! She should
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:42 PM
Mar 2016

play the lottery with her luck!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. The DNC does not run state and county primaries.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:31 PM
Mar 2016

There is a known computer problem with a new vendor in one county so far. Not much of a conspiracy, is it?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
24. I'm talking about in general, the way they are trying to stifle the competition.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:35 PM
Mar 2016

He's pretty keen on holding fair elections.

brooklynite

(94,348 posts)
17. Yeah! Who cares if Arizona has a REPUBLICAN Governor and a REPUBLICAN Secretary of State!!!
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:31 PM
Mar 2016

It MUST be Debbie Wasserman Schultz' fault!!! There can be NO OTHER EXPLANATION!

RandySF

(58,488 posts)
21. Don't forget the Republicans are also voting
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:33 PM
Mar 2016

This is not a caucus. Both parties are sharing the same voting spaces.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
23. USUncut it is a mouthpiece for the Sanders campaign.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:34 PM
Mar 2016

What they're not mentioning is the number of independents showing up demanding to vote in a closed primary:


"Voters are experiencing long lines at the polls because of fewer polling sites this year and a surge in independent voters turning up at the polls and wanting to cast provisional ballots. You have to be registered with one of the three parties for your vote to count. But federal law requires you still be given a ballot."

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/22/live-arizona-primary-coverage-presidential-preference-election/82096726/



In other words,the Sanders campaign did a crappy job educating their voters on what they had to do in order to vote and now they're blaming the evil DNC for it.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
26. But Hillary personally went to each and every voter and told them they could vote!
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:36 PM
Mar 2016

It's the only possible explanation!!!!! Oh, and
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
28. Clinton is leading with registered democrats. Not much education
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:38 PM
Mar 2016

needed considering her advantage. Sanders,on the other hand,has not won a closed primary yet.

 

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
25. When people steal elections....
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:35 PM
Mar 2016

They subvert our democracy and the rightful power of the people...

This is the fuel for revolt...or should be...

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
33. Whether you are for Clinton or Sanders hindering in any way the voting process is shameful.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:44 PM
Mar 2016

I would hope to see universal concern over this, sadly I do not.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
36. This is likely not an accident. We seem to be seeing a pattern.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:46 PM
Mar 2016

The campaign that seems to be consistently getting the short end of the stick is Sanders.

From that, sorry but there's a bit of an odor.

creeksneakers2

(7,472 posts)
62. Maybe it just looks that way
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:52 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders supporters look for every little problem and share it nationally. Hillary's people don't.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
68. We seem to be seeing a pattern here:
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:21 AM
Mar 2016

The candidate who gets the most votes, wins. Remarkable how that works.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
38. Curious ...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:47 PM
Mar 2016

What does the DNC have to do with voter registration designation controlled by the County Clerk?

And why would:

Arizona branch of the Democratic Party have confirmed that its lawyers are officially making an inquiry after multiple Democratic voters showed up to the polls only to find that they were listed as independents, Republicans, or had no party affiliation at all.


The Arizona branch of the Democratic Party be making official inquiries about it?

Disenfranchisement is a terrible thing and is paranoid delusions.

RandySF

(58,488 posts)
45. Yes it has
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:57 PM
Mar 2016

And you're the first to acknowledge that fact. It's incompetence on the part of election officials, not a DNC plot.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
56. Agreed - this is stupid incompetence more than anything else - as far as we know at this moment.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:20 PM
Mar 2016
 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
54. Hillary hardly needs to cheat to win; it's Bernie who is going after superdelegates and ...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:10 PM
Mar 2016

... depending on the l east democratic process, caucuses, for his votes.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
57. Are BSS watching too many X Files reruns or too much "Ancient Aliens"?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:30 PM
Mar 2016

Every time Bernie loses it some freaking conspiracy. C'mon people.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
63. My bro just called from az
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:55 PM
Mar 2016

He said maricopa county still has many people in line and the polls are closed...hmmmm.

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