2016 Postmortem
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(30,481 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts).
A cross-speciation between Regan Republicanism and Liberalism, creates the DLC genotype.
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grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)I am neither deranged nor a Republican.
NowSam
(1,252 posts)we are somehow derranged. This reminds me of how cray things were in this nation when people wrapped themselves in the flag and ate freedom fries instead of french fries because... Murca!
pinebox
(5,761 posts)If there's nothing there then why haven't they stopped?
Over 100 agents are involved in it, are you aware of that?
And why is it so hard to release a bunch of speech transcripts?
I think the real derangement here well is rather obvious. Those who fail to face reality with one candidate may very well believe the earth is still flat.
Tell us more about this please, we'll wait http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/hillary-clinton-foundation-state-arms-deals Seeing as how so many gloss over it with their "we can't see this!" rose colored glasses
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)BreakfastClub
(765 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)desmiller
(747 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)This election cycle has proven to me that I was wrong.
dchill
(38,468 posts)w4rma
(31,700 posts)The independents are supporting Sanders.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)Maybe you are looking at through a mirror or something
w4rma
(31,700 posts)nolabels
(13,133 posts)I going to log off now, it's been a long day and maybe i might understand your post better in morning
shawn703
(2,702 posts)An independent can be anywhere on the political spectrum, and yes that means even to the left of the center-right Democratic Party.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Hillary Clinton based entirely on her record, votes, statements, and actions?
Because it seems like no matter how long a list of facts and evidence are presented to most Hillary supporters explaining why we object to her and why we think she is anything but liberal and why we think she'll be a terrible nominee, they continue to insist that we don't support her because we are a) sexist and/or b)engulfed in a cloud of irrational "hate" that settled on us like a magic spell, out of the blue.
Who is living in delusion, then?
dchill
(38,468 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)I look forward to an intelligent response from Hillary followers that doesn't include:
1. Deflection
2. Denial
3. Rationalization
4. Childish insults
5. Someone basically saying "Hey, look over there!"
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)Feelings that Arizona is a conspiracy and that Hillary stole the election there are not though.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)Hillary! Is! The! Victim!!!!
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)It's not like liberals are going to forget "Not good enough Bernie" and all that artful smear implied.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)The center-left economic policy consensus that dominated the administrations of Barack Obama and Bill Clinton now rests on surprisingly shaky electoral foundations. Not only is Clinton relying on older voters to beat Sanders, she's relying specifically on African-American votes and the institutional support of labor unions. Both groups have their reasons for backing Clinton in 2016, but neither is a reliable supporter of centrist economics.
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/21/11273978/clinton-shaky-foundation
angrychair
(8,692 posts)Outstanding points and thank you!
840high
(17,196 posts)seaglass
(8,171 posts)a credible case against Hillary and those who sound like emotional idiots.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)support her... you'd HAVE to be deranged.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)And so true!
Trajan
(19,089 posts)No more ...
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)seriously anymore. And I'm sure the first time Bernie had to compromise to get something accomplished they'd throw him under the bus in a heartbeat for not being sufficiently pure. Besides tiresome, it's ridiculous.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I don't trust Hillary to do anything she says - that's not hatred. It's tiresome and ridiculous to portray Bernie supporters as you do.
delrem
(9,688 posts)It's called "politics".
Aren't you guys the ones most adept at pushing other's noses into the fact that money and power always wins? That your candidate is a winner by those criteria, so that's all that matters?
Believe it or not, those who're repelled by Clinton's politics are just as repelled by Republican politics in general.
Some people just don't like being played like that.
And the stakes are kinda high, if you're on the receiving end of what these war profiteers deliver.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Okay. Guilty as smeared. Non-negotiable, too.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)when you know her record and her husbands record, and you still vote for her.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Then, they ridicule and demoralize the rest of us DEMOCRATS because we simply point out the truth.
But hey - you're the one in for a rude awakening if she gets to the WH.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)are you sure you didn't forget to include any?