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RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
2. Half way
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:09 AM
Mar 2016

In the first half Hill won x numbers of delegates

In the second half Bernie can win x+1 delegates.

The race is not over.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
4. And in practice the front-loaded southern schedule has always been enough before
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:27 AM
Mar 2016

This is kind of new ground.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
6. In 2008 Obama won most of the Southern states and it was much closer back then
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:31 AM
Mar 2016

His lead was about 90 delegates around this time.

Hillary has about a 300 pledged delegate lead.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. Yep, but he had the polls lead going west that Sanders does
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:32 AM
Mar 2016

Like I said, new ground.

If I were a betting man, I'd bet Clinton. But if I were a hedging man, I'd hedge.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
8. Obama's largest lead was only 115 delegates according to WAPO
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:35 AM
Mar 2016

So he never actually broke out against her.

But the lead still proved to be insurmountable because of proportional allocation.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. Yep. Like I said, Clinton is the strong favorite
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:40 AM
Mar 2016

This is why I don't understand the Sanders's side's rant against the concept of super-delegates: that's his only realistic path to the nomination. (I'm a lukewarm Sanders supporter who would prefer the majority of pledged delegates be respected if that goes Clinton's way, as it looks like, but if people really think Sanders is "America's last hope" or whatever they should be lobbying super's left and right to save the country.)

(I still think we lost our best shot when O'Malley dropped out...)

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
14. I understand your reasoning.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:50 AM
Mar 2016

My version has this integrated in at a high level of consciousness.

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

And this.
The Economist Intelligence Unit’s Democracy Index 2015: Democracy in an age of anxiety
http://64.37.52.189/~parsifal/EIU2015.pdf

I'm sure you're aware of that information, but in your hierarchy of values it is placed in a different tier than I think is normal for strong Bernie supporters - which is most of us. Although I can understand maintaining emotional distance.

eta: As a result of your reminder I came across this just after posting. Thought it seemed related.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
10. Obviously she hasn't said that, and probably doesn't think it
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:42 AM
Mar 2016

Every single primary face-to-face or knock-and-drag is a notch on the bedpost for the General, so as far as that goes I'd like to see this primary contested until DC as long as we can turn the acrimony down a notch.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
11. Tonight started the erosion into Hillary's delegate lead. Tonight was Bernie's night!
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:44 AM
Mar 2016

Sanders 73 Delegates

Clinton 57 Delegates

(approx. - will undoubtedly change a bit)

Keep it up Bernie! My state, WA, is going to whack that lead a lot more this Saturday!! Going to be a really bad week for Hillary.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. WA is going to be an absolute massacre
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:47 AM
Mar 2016

So is AK. HI is completely opaque to me, but if it's also a massacre then Clinton's lead will still be there but not remotely as big as it is now.

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