2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow come it's only when Bernie loses
there are allegations of the loser getting screwed, treated unfairly, voter frauded, cheated?!?!?
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Twice is coincidence.
Three times? Ratfuckery. Plain and simple.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)individuals. That kind of clean. Ah ha.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)(and allowed Clinton to spy on Sanders too)
That was very unclean, but it wasn't Sanders who ended up with dirty hands, was it? It was Hillary's campaign manager (sorry, I mean DNC chair) DWS!
boston bean
(36,218 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Nothing funny about that, by the way.
boston bean
(36,218 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)But then: it has long been clear that Clinton desn't care about progressives or gays or millennials at all. So I guess I have hit the trifecta.
boston bean
(36,218 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)cleared. So typical. Throw up the hurdles and blocks to make it as challenging as possible for the woman, and clear out the path for an easy stride for the white man. Hence, a loss with the Democratic base. We too easily see the demand, and we just say,...
No.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)for theft
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)That anti-establishment meme has been debunked, quite soundly.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)boston bean
(36,218 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)I bet some of us black power brokers infiltrated the AZ primary to give the State to us confederates.
boston bean
(36,218 posts)Subsidiary of the MBO!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I'm pretty much a sellout with my esteemed Buddy JL (that Means John Lewis)
boston bean
(36,218 posts)Everyone with an ounce of critical thinking knows that!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Response to boston bean (Original post)
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pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)she is among the LEAST liked and LEAST trusted while Bernie is at the top. And she can't stand on her own policies but must adopt Bernie's. Total loser.
And if she does win. . . no working Americans will get any relief, only favors for the rich.. It's who they are, it's what they do. How many decades of evidence do they need?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)we change the rules mid stream for him because he is losing, with the Super delegates. Ya.... Cheating only when Sanders loses. Tell ya. As an athlete for decades, he would be pinned with poor sport all the way.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)he just fails to win.
It's all her fault. It's a conspiracy.
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)After all...he just because a democrat! Unless you think he's got crony politicians in high places in each state pulling the strings for him. He has been in politics for a long time, maybe its all part of his long con.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...it's utterly obvious at this point that the election in Arizona was bungled badly. What I'm not ready to say (and won't be without a hell of a lot of solid evidence) is that the fiasco was deliberate and intended to favor any particular candidate. Something like that, which would completely change the race, has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)with many of the States Clinton picked up. Luckily (for Bernie) you can't flood a caucus State with absentee ballots.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)There are Hillary supporters in this thread..your OP is less than helpful.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511557242
think
(11,641 posts)72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)The more mud his supporters will throw, attempting to delegitimize Hillary's victory.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)I think the scale of a 300 delegate deficit is sinking in for even those Sandersians most in denial.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)state...right?
haikugal
(6,476 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I don't think there's any way to determine what the will of the voters was. Voter registrations were completely fucked up. Voters were turned away. Thousands of provisional ballots...who knows if they'll be counted or not? Voting Precincts in Maricopa County reduced from 400 in 2008, to 200 in 2012, to 60 in 2016. Election called when only the early votes reported, people still waiting in line to vote 5+ hours later. Some voters couldn't wait...had to return to jobs, school, or kids. Most likely every candidate was affected to one degree or another. Nobody should be making the excuse that the situation yesterday in AZ is acceptable or should be allowed to stand.
stonecutter357
(12,694 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)I thought we all knew that the oligarchy hates our vote and wants to outlaw it.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)but somehow they magically turn into Bernie voters if they didn't actually get to vote. The election coverage was talking about the polling areas thinned out, and they favored Clinton.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Smh.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)That you don't seem to says a lot.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)The hypocrisy is strong. May the double standard be with you
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I'm sure there were many Clinton supporters in those long lines and late registrants who were disenfranchised, as well. You'll be singing a different tune when the Republicans pull this kind of stuff in November. We should all be very concerned about this. I thought Democrats were opposed to voter suppression. Silly me...
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)Look at it each election on its merits. AZ F*cked up - that is pretty obvious and should be unacceptable to all Democrats.