2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAll-out warfare is about to break out between Bernie Sanders’ supporters and the political press
Mark my words: Were going to face a very ugly few weeks on social media. The nastiness will begin this weekend and last through April 26, when five states will hold primaries with a big delegate haul in the balance.
Heres why: We have five states coming up in which Bernie Sanders will probably do very, very well. Its not inconceivable that he could sweep them all. But even a sweep wont change the structure of the race in any way. Three of the five (Hawaii, Wyoming and Alaska) are states with relatively few delegates. The Democratic contests are all proportional, so Hillary Clinton will get a share of delegates even if she gets shut out.......
Serious reporters know that the next five contests will shave some delegates off of Clintons healthy lead shes currently up by 303 pledged delegates according to Real Clear Politics count which still leaves her well ahead as the fight for the nomination moves to friendlier ground for the Clinton campaign.
Journalists with knowledge of the calendar wont report that Sanders is turning the race on its head. They wont report that its a whole new ballgame, or that a win in Alaska predicts a victory in Maryland. They wont report that Sanders is surging.
A lot of Sanders supporters will want them to cover these victories in sweeping terms, and write that the momentum has shifted, but they wont. They wont report these things because they arent true, or at least because there will be no reason to expect them to prove true at the time (one never knows what might happen in the future). If Sanders had swept five early contests and gained a lead in the delegate count, it might have caused primary voters in later states who leaned toward Clinton to re-evaluate their choice. But were more than halfway through the campaign, opinions are becoming set and when the candidates get to New York, Clinton will still be up by at least a couple of hundred pledged delegates.
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/all-out-warfare-is-about-to-break-out-between-bernie-sanders-supporters-and-the-political-press/
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,881 posts)KPN
(15,642 posts)The media has been waging a covert war on Bernie and Berners for months now!!!!
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,881 posts)I'm not the one who posted it.
Then again
grasswire
(50,130 posts)...today on MSNBC. They said that if Bernie does well in the next ten states, the BIG MO will shift to him.
RandySF
(58,728 posts)No one said no such thing then and no one will say that now.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)out.
What's new?
bunnies
(15,859 posts)And that's the problem.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)wait til the Hillary supporters get a hold of this ....they are gonna post it. I say Bull shit to the article. Boy been using that all day...pardon my language.
LonePirate
(13,414 posts)If NY voters don't give a damn about what happens two weeks earlier in WI and WY, then the article may have some merit.
RandySF
(58,728 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Why would anyone think his supporters will get extra riled up now?
Makes no sense.
SSDD
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)in dorm rooms to drop bombs via twitter and facebook.
delrem
(9,688 posts)They LOVE Donald Trump. Can't get enough of him. It's wall-to-wall Trump, everywhere on the MSM.
They LOVED the "Tea Party", and could never, in all the years, explain the funding. Or even mention the funding.
They LOVE a scandal, the sexier the better.
Martin O'Malley was just too fucking boring for them. Not worth even a couple of words en passant, he was so boring. Ugh. Policy. Substance. A person would have to think!
One thing for certain, none of them will discuss the PAC and direct political donations of their paymasters. None of 'em. That's taboo.
The most "liberal" of them has "We're all neocons now!" Chris Matthews on in prime time, as a marker of depth.
Starts out with "Morning Joe".
I dunno if it's "all out warfare" - seems more like derision. I wonder why you can't see it?
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)...are called into question.
Example:
A lot of Sanders supporters will want them to cover these victories (in the next states) in sweeping terms, and write that the momentum has shifted, but they wont. They wont report these things because they arent true... --from the OP
They 'report' things that are untrue every day! And they fail to report important things that ARE true every day--even more so. If Bernie has a wave of victories, they will barely report it and will do so with their mouths hanging down in cartoons of "Ugh!". Then back to Trump, Trump, Trump! A little glitter of Hillary. Then more Trump, Trump, Trump, isn't it all lamentable? and what's happening to the Republican Party, that once reliable party that gave us big tax cuts and the Iraq War?
Sanders supporters HAVE NO EXPECTATION that the Corrupt Media will do anything but move along quickly in the other direction from a Sanders surge.
The Corrupt Media CREATED the Donald Trump candidacy. We had two insurgent, anti-establishment candidacies to start with, and they gave one 24/7, 7 days a week, coverage of Trump blowing hoogies at the their cameras, and completely black-holed the other one: Bernie Sanders, who, in national polls is now beating their ugly pet, Trump, BY 26 POINTS!
Trump was their invention. And Trump's getting tromped by Bernie Sanders, who doesn't exist!
And, besides all this, the article is simply lying about what could happen if Sanders wins the next five states in a blowout. Campaigns and elections are emotional events. They often don't follow the rules of "serious reporters" for the Corrupt Media. And in this year of insurgencies, they are already not following the rules, in a big way, and they will continue not to follow the rules.
"Serious reporters" don't have a clue what is happening in this country. And they have gotten completely undermined by internet journalists who support Bernie Sanders, by voters who get their info from each other on social media and by Sanders' brilliant small-donor-only fundraising on the internet. Flummoxed. Cast aside. Ignored. Their time is done. Because, if Sanders does have a big surge, we will NOT be dependent on these Corporate liars to get the word all over the country and the world, instantly, by our own action.
This article is clueless.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)They Fed the beast, and didn't like the results, but aren't sure how to stuff back in the box without unplugging it. The difference is, one is a program - the other is a living, breathing, monster drawing ratings to their fake news station. And since they've already proven they're not about reporting news, but manufacturing their opinion of it, all that's left is how much they can sell it for.
Number23
(24,544 posts)I'm surprised that he gets very much coverage at all.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)They buried him from the beginning and they
will do so to the end; just in between they
tried to ridicule or derate him a bit.
Our media are so wonderful, just wait until
they will bury HRC after the nomination.
You know that they are in the pockets of the
big corporations and therefore go after
any dem, as long as they can keep the
horserace going for a bit for drama?
I am sure that you do.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Thats not their job to drive the narrative.
Saying he has no chance will cause peoplectonassumecthat and either not vote or else castvtheir lot with Clinton.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)They're commentators, political entertainers. They speak for ratings and little more. Turn them off, and unsubscribe. It's the only message they will understand.
jfern
(5,204 posts)The Washington Post ran 16 hit pieces in just 16 hours.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)The Sanders campaign didn't get this far because of any help from the media, and it's obvious that everything they say about him or HRC is pure spin as hard as they can spin it. They're only looking to keep the corrupt cash flowing in their direction.
Media are the BIG BENEFICIARIES of much of the campaign cash that has to be raised for every election. The last thing they want to ever see is campaign finance reform. So how much do you think they want HRC to win?
My way of financing elections would be this... I think big media should have to give air time to elections FOR FREE as a condition of being given a license by the public to use the public air waves.
I also think the MSM should be broken up and re-regulated just like the banks.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)This place gets more like an Escher print by the damn minute.
senz
(11,945 posts)It's nice you take so much comfort in things like that.
Just think: billionaires prefer Hillary.
See? You got money, power, and influence all lined up behind your candidate.
Bernie, all he's got going for him is truth and a whole lot of people who've been screwed over by money, power, and influence.
RandySF
(58,728 posts)He been less than honest for much of the campaign.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)~ Bernie Sanders during live interview with Cenk Uygur (TYT)
This is a very GOOD thing, because he will not be leading the nation any time soon.
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)for several weeks.
physician heal thyself