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Wernothelpless

(410 posts)
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:19 AM Mar 2016

Helen Purcell:From Arkansas to Arizona

https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-10942184.html

Helen Purcell, Maricopa County's recorder and election director, shows no signs of slowing down - even in an off-election year. Managing her time is Purcell's biggest challenge, as she oversees recording 1 million documents annually and modernizing the state's largest election department. In her fifth term of office, Purcell also serves on a committee drafting new standards for voting systems throughout the United States and on the board of the National Association of Counties, among other organizations. "It's easier now that my family is grown," she says, the mother of two and grandmother of four. Her husband Joe, who Purcell says gave her the valued advice of being honest, consistent and to "learn everything you can," passed away several years ago after 43 years of marriage. …
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Helen Purcell:From Arkansas to Arizona (Original Post) Wernothelpless Mar 2016 OP
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #1
Not her. madamesilverspurs Mar 2016 #57
You are right. Snopes has it researched already. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #59
Which Koch brothers playbook was she using marions ghost Mar 2016 #2
+1 Scuba Mar 2016 #3
No doubt Wernothelpless Mar 2016 #4
She should be axed immediately marions ghost Mar 2016 #24
She's an elected official ... She can't just be axed ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #36
OK Purcell can be removed tho marions ghost Mar 2016 #44
No ... Purcell has proven incompetent and incapable for doing her job. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #47
We concur marions ghost Mar 2016 #48
No ... I don't know if she has spoken out on it. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #49
Just wondering... marions ghost Mar 2016 #51
Why ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #52
Might not change my vote, marions ghost Mar 2016 #54
Her husband was Clinton's Lt. Governor. lmbradford Mar 2016 #50
No he wasn't. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #62
Thank you for posting. /nt think Mar 2016 #5
You're welcome ... Wernothelpless Mar 2016 #6
Amazing. Joe Purcell was lieutenant governor under Bill Clinton. Now she's deeply involved in think Mar 2016 #8
For Pete's sake... Punkingal Mar 2016 #9
Indeed... /nt think Mar 2016 #13
Ummmmm. . . Codeine Mar 2016 #64
And this may UglyGreed Mar 2016 #25
Glen Beck wants his chalk board back. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #37
More deflection UglyGreed Mar 2016 #40
No ... I just don't go looking for C/T to explain unfortunate results. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #41
Using C/T is a UglyGreed Mar 2016 #42
What using the word? Or, clinging to it, desperately? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #43
You are the one who UglyGreed Mar 2016 #45
And guilt by association is not deflection? LanternWaste Mar 2016 #55
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #72
Are Lt. Gov. and Gov. elected together in Arkansas? Agschmid Mar 2016 #7
They were in office at the same time. Wernothelpless Mar 2016 #11
No. Agschmid Mar 2016 #14
You'll have check with their state Wernothelpless Mar 2016 #15
Serving at the same time does not make people "cronies". Agschmid Mar 2016 #16
Of course it does ... Wernothelpless Mar 2016 #17
The answer (if you cared, I know you don't, facts be damned).... Agschmid Mar 2016 #18
Here is a picture of then together Wernothelpless Mar 2016 #19
Of course they know each other... But that doesn't make them cronies. Agschmid Mar 2016 #22
Right... Wernothelpless Mar 2016 #23
You logic is completely flawed. Agschmid Mar 2016 #27
Try to follow Wernothelpless Mar 2016 #34
I'm aware, still doesn't make them cronies. Agschmid Mar 2016 #35
And I do care Wernothelpless Mar 2016 #20
The Lt. Governor is an elected office, separate from the Governor ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #39
the number of 'coincidences' are becoming mathematically challenging... islandmkl Mar 2016 #10
and hopefully back to Arkansas. n/t Herman4747 Mar 2016 #12
The Clinton sphere of influence has no boundaries. n/t insta8er Mar 2016 #21
This is a lie. She was married to a different joe purcell JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #26
Is it really a lie? Because I just wasted a whole bunch of time upthread then. Agschmid Mar 2016 #29
Yep JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #30
Thanks for being reasonable, I appreciate it. Agschmid Mar 2016 #31
No worries I'll post a Clinton emails story to add balance to the DU world JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #32
Fair enough. Haha. Agschmid Mar 2016 #33
If you do the math there's no way that the Arizona and Arkansas Helen Purcell are the same person CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #38
Here is her pic in Arkansas Wernothelpless Mar 2016 #53
They do look very similar CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #58
The google image search the poster posted has a picture of Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #71
Give it up. Codeine Mar 2016 #67
+1,000,000 Agschmid Mar 2016 #70
Yes. The AR Purcell was married in 1948. Beowulf Mar 2016 #46
you're right dana_b Mar 2016 #60
A) Putting a Tea Party Republican Zorra Mar 2016 #28
Snopes is your friend. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #56
This is a boldface lie KingFlorez Mar 2016 #61
Desperate times ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #66
The OP is even doubling down. Codeine Mar 2016 #69
Bernie supporters - this isn't true!! dana_b Mar 2016 #63
Snopes it before you post it. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2016 #65
Helen Purcell Memes to pass around: L. Coyote Mar 2016 #68

Response to Wernothelpless (Original post)

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
2. Which Koch brothers playbook was she using
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:33 AM
Mar 2016

when she slashed voting locations by 70%

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marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
24. She should be axed immediately
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

from her present position in AZ.

Also this woman has a powerful post on the committee for "drafting new US voting standards." Uh yeah--how about resigning from that committee, Ms. Purcell, before you get kicked off?

Not alleging any Clinton Co. direct involvement. I don't think they would be quite that stupid. But the question of their history crosses your mind...her hub was Lt Gov under Bill? Interesting. They are so in bed with RethugliCons...who knows?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
36. She's an elected official ... She can't just be axed ...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:22 PM
Mar 2016
Not alleging any Clinton Co. direct involvement. I don't think they would be quite that stupid. But the question of their history crosses your mind...her hub was Lt Gov under Bill? Interesting.


Respectfully ...

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
44. OK Purcell can be removed tho
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:42 PM
Mar 2016

--recalled, impeached--if you prefer.

It's "interesting" is ALL I said. Thanks for your "respects."

These days, absolutely nothing would really surprise me. But no, Hillary Co. is too smart to do anything like directly tamper with the voting. They can just let little helpers help. Nothing wrong with that now is it? It's a time-honored tradition after all. La-de-da. Victory speech. Onward.

Where is Hillary on the topic of the AZ Election theft? I fault her for her silence. Bernie called it a national disgrace. Is Purcell somebody you want deciding on National voting standards? Really?

Respectfully

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
49. No ... I don't know if she has spoken out on it.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016

And, frankly, I don't care whether she speaks out on it or not ... with a politician condemning a fiasco and a nickel, I still can't buy a pack of bubble gum.

This, to me, is a feckless as HRC riding Bernie for just calling on Snyder to resign.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
54. Might not change my vote,
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:27 PM
Mar 2016

but I would give her credit for it--at least for the lip service. Her silence is an indicator of her attitudes towards election theft and corruption.

Maybe she could tell Bullhorn Bill to get out and provide some entertainment for voters stuck in those long lines in the dark...

Wernothelpless

(410 posts)
6. You're welcome ...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:45 AM
Mar 2016

I saw it was here before, but some insisted it wasn't the same woman ...

It is precisely the same woman from Arkansas and Clinton country ...

 

think

(11,641 posts)
8. Amazing. Joe Purcell was lieutenant governor under Bill Clinton. Now she's deeply involved in
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:49 AM
Mar 2016

the voter suppression in Arizona.

Small world...

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
40. More deflection
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016

and slander but it is expected......... the Clintons are beyond corruption and political parties can never go sour..........




 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
43. What using the word? Or, clinging to it, desperately? n/t
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:39 PM
Mar 2016

If it's the former, I disagree ... it is an observation; if you are referring to the latter, I agree ... please stop.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
55. And guilt by association is not deflection?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:31 PM
Mar 2016

And guilt by association is not deflection?

Which half-wit will be the first to propose it as valid analysis rather than a logic fallacy which by definition, it actually is?

Response to Wernothelpless (Reply #6)

Wernothelpless

(410 posts)
15. You'll have check with their state
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:27 AM
Mar 2016

I know they were in office together ..

One can assume elections take place on the same date, but only if you're from Arkansas

Some reason it matters. ... They served at the same time and are CRONIES

Wernothelpless

(410 posts)
34. Try to follow
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:08 PM
Mar 2016

Honest Joe Purcell, as Lieutenant Governor, was acting as Governor of Arkansas until Bill was sworn in ... Joe is the one who stood there with him and helped him make a smooth transition... It was his job ...

Still coincidence...

Wernothelpless

(410 posts)
20. And I do care
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

I just think it's so sweet how two politicians from Arkansas be of such interest to you ...

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
39. The Lt. Governor is an elected office, separate from the Governor ...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:27 PM
Mar 2016

Don't feed the ... though I get it ... it's fun to watch the at feeding time.

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
10. the number of 'coincidences' are becoming mathematically challenging...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:05 AM
Mar 2016

at least in the coin tosses the odds are equal...

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
38. If you do the math there's no way that the Arizona and Arkansas Helen Purcell are the same person
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:25 PM
Mar 2016

Arkansas Helen Purcell met Arkansas Joe Purcell in 1948. She had reportedly just graduated from college and was about to begin a career as a teacher. So, in 1948, that puts her around 22 years old.

So, that would make Arkansas Helen Purcell around 90 years old.

The Arizona Helen Purcell is clearly not 90-years old.

I will say...that is a hell of a coincidence that both women are named Helen Purcell and married to a Joe Purcell.

But it's not her!

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
58. They do look very similar
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:42 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe someone should just ask her.

Either way, the Internet will figure this one out.

I just don't think the numbers add up.

As stated earlier, the coincidences are just so bizarre that a Helen Purcell/Joe Purcell from Arizona and so are a Helen Purcell/Joe Purcell from Arkansas--who are completely different people. It would be a coincidence of epic proportions.

I just can't get around the numbers. The Arkansas numbers would put her at around 90.


 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
71. The google image search the poster posted has a picture of
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 06:37 PM
Mar 2016

Joe Purcell, former LT Gov of Arkansas under Bill Clinton, AND a separate picture of Helen Purcell of Arizona. It's nothing but an image search, so related images would show up, seeing how the names are the same.

IOW, they are not the same person.

Beowulf

(761 posts)
46. Yes. The AR Purcell was married in 1948.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:49 PM
Mar 2016

And was a college graduate at the time. That would mean she's over 90 years old today assuming she's still living.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
28. A) Putting a Tea Party Republican
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:58 AM
Mar 2016

like Helen in charge of anything more complex than mowing the lawn or grocery shopping is inviting failure.

B) Factor in influence by anti-democratic organizations such as ALEC on a Tea Party Republican in an official position, and failure through incompetence becomes the plan.

ALEC: "Well done! Keep calm, play dumb, and this will all blow over. Don't forget, you're now a hero of the Tea Party Patriots!."

Official Statement, paraphrased:

"Well, it's a mess, yes, the election was fraudulent. We Didn't Know! But, golly gee, there's nothing we can do about it now. Stupid voters should have gotten early ballots. That'll teach 'em. They'll know better next time. We certainly can't change the results, can we? Oh well. Best to move along, and get back to business as usual. Nothing more to see here."



Meet The Tea Party Republican Behind Arizona’s Colossal Voting Clusterf**k

http://reverbpress.com/politics/meet-the-tea-party-republican-behind-arizonas-colossal-voting-clusterfk/

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
63. Bernie supporters - this isn't true!!
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:59 PM
Mar 2016

Not the same woman who was married to this Joe Purcell. She would be VERY old now. Too old to still be working.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Purcell

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