Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 08:58 PM Mar 2016

My heart's for Hillary, but my brain is for Sanders. Others feel this way?

What a difficult race!

There's something I like about Hillary. Boy, is she tough. She played the game of politics at its most vicious levels and despite the drawback of being a woman, she prevailed. It's really hard to imagine anyone stronger than her. She plays tough, and she plays dirty. If anyone's going to make something happen in Washington, Hillary can!

But, then there's Bernie. He's using all the right arguments to inspire the millennials to become a wonderful gift to the future. He is a man with high ethics and a clear and consistent vision. And behind him is a movement that, if it can get him elected, will help him make things happen.

How do you decide? I'm with Bernie, my husband's with Hillary, and there's nothing we disagree on.

22 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
My heart's for Hillary, but my brain is for Sanders. Others feel this way? (Original Post) Onlooker Mar 2016 OP
Both my heart and my brain are with Bernie. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #1
My heart and my brain are 200% for Birdman Bernie. Autumn Mar 2016 #2
At the beginning, I actually felt the opposite democrattotheend Mar 2016 #3
^ this Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #15
A Query, if I may ? vt_native Mar 2016 #4
Oh, I think you're oversimplifying Onlooker Mar 2016 #10
Nope, don't feel the same noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #5
No,I Don't. peace13 Mar 2016 #6
My heart could never be for a corrupt warmonger. grasswire Mar 2016 #7
My heart and brain is for Sanders ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2016 #8
Hillary can pick him to be her vice president.. dubyadiprecession Mar 2016 #9
My heart and my mind are in complete agreement. NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #11
I can appreciate her toughness too. I just don't think that matters as much as wise judgment. JudyM Mar 2016 #12
reverse for me! oldandhappy Mar 2016 #13
No Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #14
My heart and brain are both for Bernie. I don't think Hillary is "strong." Triangulating, CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #16
I would say it a little differently. In 2008, I saw the capable woman you see, FourScore Mar 2016 #17
Opposite here; heart for Bernie, head for Hillary Dem2 Mar 2016 #18
There is not one thing about Hillary to be "for." senz Mar 2016 #19
Nnnnnnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #21
My heart and brain are for Sanders nt LiberalElite Mar 2016 #22

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
1. Both my heart and my brain are with Bernie.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:01 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary doesn't get anything from me except my reluctant vote, if absolutely necessary, and that only because both Trump and Cruz are totally horrible.

Autumn

(44,980 posts)
2. My heart and my brain are 200% for Birdman Bernie.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:01 PM
Mar 2016

I was a Hillary supporters in 08, the whole family was. Now it's all Bernie.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
3. At the beginning, I actually felt the opposite
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:02 PM
Mar 2016

My heart was with Bernie but I was afraid he was just too liberal to get elected.

However, as time has gone on I have come to believe he is actually a stronger candidate for us than Hillary. Many people who don't agree with him still respect him, and might even vote for him if Trump is the GOP nominee.

 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
10. Oh, I think you're oversimplifying
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:23 PM
Mar 2016

What she did was make herself to possibly become the worst woman president despite being up against an overwhelmingly powerful and vicious male establishment. She stood up the biggest bullies there are, but not in the way you wanted her to. I agree with that. But, at least she prevailed. What an underdog she must have been in those vaunted halls where only men sat.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
6. No,I Don't.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:03 PM
Mar 2016

I am blessed to know the direction I want my country to go in. So sorry for your confliction. If I were you I wouldn't sleep with my husband until after the election...in case anything rubs off. : ). Have an awesome evening.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
7. My heart could never be for a corrupt warmonger.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:04 PM
Mar 2016

I really think that you need to dig a bit deeper in reading about them.

JudyM

(29,192 posts)
12. I can appreciate her toughness too. I just don't think that matters as much as wise judgment.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:29 PM
Mar 2016

Plus, to me, ethics *really* matters and in this election that is such a clear differentiator. Even beyond Bernie's good ideas is a constantly employed, well-tuned moral compass.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,741 posts)
14. No
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:41 PM
Mar 2016

I started undecided but two factors made me choose Hillary.

After watching the second debate I thought Bernie looked a bit frail. Isn't he about 74? If elected I doubt he'd serve more than one term. I'd definitely be looking at who his running mate is.

The export-import bank. Sanders is the only Democrat to vote against this. He claims it's Boeing's bank? Bullshit.

The bank allows us to be competitive on the foreign market. It actually makes money for the tax payers, $675 million last year.

While Sanders is correct that the game is rigged against the average person I'm not sure he knows enough about economics to create the proper reforms

If Bernie gets the nomination on the other hand I'll vote for him. Either he and Hillary are better than anyone on the GOP side.

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
16. My heart and brain are both for Bernie. I don't think Hillary is "strong." Triangulating,
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:46 PM
Mar 2016

obfuscating, and pandering, which is her style, are weak and cowardly behavior.

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
17. I would say it a little differently. In 2008, I saw the capable woman you see,
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:51 PM
Mar 2016

but I felt INSPIRED by Obama. I was so torn though. I remember I was still trying to decide who to vote for on election day. In the end, I pulled the lever for Obama. (My three children were in the booth, and they all held onto the lever and pulled it with me. My kindergarten daughter was not very happy that I wouldn't vote for "the girl"; but she left smiling anyway after being given an "I Voted" sticker, which she wore proudly to kindergarten. My oldest child just turned 18, registered last week, and will vote for Bernie in the near future.)

I have always loved Bernie. As soon as he got into the race, I knew he'd be the one for me. I saw him speak last summer in South Carolina while I was there on vacation, and felt even more certain. After the first debate, I felt proud to be a democrat. I didn't think Bernie would be able to win, but I knew we'd be in good hands with Hillary.

Once again, I saw a capable woman, but I was INSPIRED by Bernie.

Things have changed since then. I am very worried that she will be unable to win the general. Most people are so Clinton scandal weary, and although most Clinton supporters only see it as a right-wing smear job, the FBI investigation could tank her chances very quickly. I also do not trust her anymore. She has flipped and flopped in so many ways that I do not respect her anymore. If she is elected, the status quo will continue, and America will be embroiled in war. And finally, with Time Warner Cable as her 8th top donor, I believe we will lose net neutrality. I cannot vote for her.

Bernie would bring change. The kind of change our democracy so badly needs.

Response to Onlooker (Original post)

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»My heart's for Hillary, b...