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upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:05 AM Mar 2016

Sanders needs to win more than 67 percent of the remaining delegates overall

But turning that passionate support into the party nomination is growing increasingly difficult. Clinton has a delegate lead of 1,223 to 920 over Sanders, according to an Associated Press analysis, an advantage that expands to 1,691-949 once the superdelegates, or party officials who can back either candidate, are included.

Based on that count, Sanders still needs to win 58 percent of the remaining delegates from primaries and caucuses to have a majority of those delegates by June's end.

His bar is even higher when the party officials are considered. He needs to win more than 67 percent of the remaining delegates overall — from primaries, caucuses and the ranks of uncommitted superdelegates — to prevail.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sanders-seeks-caucus-trifecta-win-to-close-delegate-gap/ar-BBqWFmD?li=BBnb7Kz


Well here is my early "congratulations" to Bernie supporters for today's wins. Enjoy them while you can.

Come back when we travel to the Eastern part of the country for a whopping.

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Sanders needs to win more than 67 percent of the remaining delegates overall (Original Post) upaloopa Mar 2016 OP
K & R GreydeeThos Mar 2016 #1
So glad the deep south is done voting against their interest already then. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #2
Sanders has to do slightly better in the 2nd half than Clinton did in the 1st half 6chars Mar 2016 #3
+ even today she gets a proportional share of the delegates.... Historic NY Mar 2016 #5
re: "As for the super delegates, he would have to nearly sweep them." thesquanderer Mar 2016 #9
I follow college football recruiting. Commtted rateyes Mar 2016 #4
Well this ain't football upaloopa Mar 2016 #6
If the reps and Senators who are superdelegates rateyes Mar 2016 #12
OK if that is the most important thing to you and not the issues that Bernie and Hillary have been upaloopa Mar 2016 #13
I do vote the issues. That's why I am voting rateyes Mar 2016 #14
You'd think they would begin to get the message, wouldn't you? kristopher Mar 2016 #15
You'd think! rateyes Mar 2016 #16
Well maybe as years go by you all will learn that life isn't everything you want it to be upaloopa Mar 2016 #17
Even a magic sparrow wont help him with his math problem. DCBob Mar 2016 #7
let's worry about the 58% of remaining delegates. It's not impossible. Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #8
Lol, hill fans must have some agreement to post thisf every day. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #10
Well it keeps us laughing too upaloopa Mar 2016 #11
So he needs 58 percent... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #18
How much of the remaining vote does Hillary need if all the superDs vote Bernie? L. Coyote Mar 2016 #19

6chars

(3,967 posts)
3. Sanders has to do slightly better in the 2nd half than Clinton did in the 1st half
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:17 AM
Mar 2016

She has 57% of pledged delegates to this point, and he needs 58% of remaining ones. That would take a number of overwhelming victories comparable to many of Clinton's in the south. As for the super delegates, he would have to nearly sweep them. But it is likely that the ones who remain uncommitted are the ones who were less likely to support Clinton anyway.

So, in theory, possible if he could do a reverse of Hillary. But this is like a football team being down 31-0 at halftime. First off, that's a lot of points to come back from. Second, the deficit has something to do with the strength of the opponent. I think it would have to be the political comeback of the century if he does it.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
5. + even today she gets a proportional share of the delegates....
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:39 AM
Mar 2016

a plus for her...He still loses ground.

thesquanderer

(11,968 posts)
9. re: "As for the super delegates, he would have to nearly sweep them."
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:28 AM
Mar 2016

You don't "win" super delegates, nor are they awarded or suddenly "counted" when their own state has its primary. They can announce their preference at any time (which is why Hillary has so many already, those figures have nothing to do with whether or not a given state has voted), but they don't "count" until the day of the convention, when they can choose to support whoever they want, regardless of who they have or haven't previously supported publicly. Basically, what a SD gives you is an endorsement, and an indication of which way someone is likely to vote at the convention, depending on the circumstances of the time.

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
4. I follow college football recruiting. Commtted
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:20 AM
Mar 2016

recruits decommit from one team to another all the time.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
6. Well this ain't football
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:14 AM
Mar 2016

I think a major thing Bernie fans never take into account is that Bernie is running as a Dem because he had no chance at the nomination running as an independent. He said as much. As a Dem he gets to tap into all the DNC supplied data bases and voter lists.

But he is not a Dem. As a matter of fact he has a history of bashing Dems. The super delegates are Dem party leaders. They are not going to switch allegiance to an Independent. They are invested in electing Hillary.

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
12. If the reps and Senators who are superdelegates
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 12:04 PM
Mar 2016

Vote against Bernie when the majority of the people they represent voted for him, it might just sway their votes. How my rep votes at convention will determine whether he gets my vote this fall.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
13. OK if that is the most important thing to you and not the issues that Bernie and Hillary have been
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 02:18 PM
Mar 2016

talking about.

So many here talk about issues and then say they won't vote. You may as well say you are casting your lot with the other side.

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
14. I do vote the issues. That's why I am voting
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 02:51 PM
Mar 2016

for real progressives. Nobody else gets my vote. I will not have my vote taken for granted ever again.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
15. You'd think they would begin to get the message, wouldn't you?
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 02:58 PM
Mar 2016

But they keep stumbling blindly along thinking things like "He's not a Dem" and "She has experience" are what constitutes an issue.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
8. let's worry about the 58% of remaining delegates. It's not impossible.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:21 AM
Mar 2016

The super-delegates will follow the popular vote.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
18. So he needs 58 percent...
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:37 PM
Mar 2016

...not 67 percent. That is, if the superdelegates follow what they have done in the past, which is that once the people's choice is clear, they vote for that candidate at the convention.

If he does manage to do better than 58% and comes to the convention with a majority of the pledged delegates, and then the superdelegates throw a monkey-wrench into the works by voting for Hillary anyway, there will be pandemonium, guaranteed.

With that said, it is of course still most likely that Hillary will come to the convention with the most pledged delegates. But today of all days, we Bernie bros and Bernie gals will keep our hopes alive!

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
19. How much of the remaining vote does Hillary need if all the superDs vote Bernie?
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:43 PM
Mar 2016

Why isn't that question asked? If they decide to vote Bernie, they can.

How about a neutral question? What percent of the remaining delegates does each need to lock this up no matter which way the superDs vote?

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