How will Bernie represent young straight white men of Christian heritage?

[Onlooker]

It's been pointed out many times that Wall Street is buying Hillary. There is certainly some truth to that. Money talks. Candidates do respond to money, and Hillary's record is pretty mediocre when it comes to Wall Street. She also gets a lot of money from women, gays, and people of color. I wonder what she'll do for them.

Now, it's common knowledge that Bernie's base is largely white, straight, Christian, and arguably male. They have been donating to his campaign in impressive numbers, and relative to their income their donations are even more impressive. As they continue to buy Bernie, what do you think he will offer them -- $15/hour wages, free college, reductions in their college loans, what else?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

1. He'll be offering those things to everybody.

Even old, black, Buddhist, homosexual, immigrants, who prefer classical music.

Next question?

[Merryland]

2. Well-said!

[Onlooker]

3. Investing is available to everyone, too

But, for college, some people are poor and have to work, raise families, don't even have GEDs, come from homes where college is neither a tradition or an option. Perhaps you didn't know that. College is a great middle class opportunity, but it's not nearly as accessible for the poor. Even in states that have college programs for the poor, many of the poor simply can't go. And older people who have kids certainly won't be able to benefit from it as much. But, yes, all middle class people will be able to benefit from it, and some poor people too.

[Wilms]

4. Then vote for HRC. She reaches out to minorities and the disenfranchised

whenever she campaigns.

[longship]

74. Do you mean when she gives speeches to private parties?

Where one has to pay to play?

She closed down a chunk of UW-Madison campus today. Sorry! No students allowed! Just another private speech to her loyal big buck donors. BTW, the students were not happy with her.

[Wilms]

75. HRC just brushes it off.

[longship]

79. She doesn't care. Students? Pew! nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. Which is exactly my point.

I would venture that poor people would benefit from it far more than the current system. I was poor and worked my way through college with a little help from my VA bennies. But, college was cheap back then. I think there are plenty of poor people who find it impossible now, who would greatly benefit from free tuition.

[Ned_Devine]

58. Which do you like more, brie or cheddar?

I know they're both entirely different types of cheese, but aren't they both delicious? I would hate for someone to make me have to choose between the two.

[Ken Burch]

86. Bernie will do more to help poor people than HRC.

And it doesn't help poor people to ONLY focus on elementary and secondary school. It's meaningless to get a high school diploma if college remains unaffordable.

And if we made state college free, that by itself would make it more diverse.

We don't have to choose between improving post-secondary education OR improving elementary education.

[NWCorona]

5. Well there's this

How Bernie Sanders' speeches reflect teaching of Jesus

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/mar/23/christian-values-holy-week/

[pdsimdars]

7. Go watch one of his speeches. . . .they're public . . . .unlike Hillary when she talks to her base.

[99Forever]

8. Bernie's "base" is We the People.

All races. All genders. All ages. All religious persuasions or none at all. My experience working as a Sanders volunteer does not match up your broadbrush generalization of who we are. Not. Even. Close.

Clearly, there is nothing "common" about this supposed "knowledge." In fact, it's pure bunk.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

61. But only a small minority thereof.

Of the ones who care enough about left-wing politics to vote in the Democratic primary, most don't support Sanders.

As a fraction of the population as a whole, his base is even smaller.

[99Forever]

63. Bullshit.

[haikugal]

67. Link?

Show us where you're getting your information. Thanks.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

72. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/democrats/

[haikugal]

78. Sorry...not a working link.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

81. Hmm.

It works for me in Chrome.

Does it help if I paste it in the body of a message?

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/democrats/

[Ken Burch]

87. There is no way it could ever be more left wing to support the more right-wing candidate.

Social justice(which can't be achieved without economic justice) is never best served by nominating the candidate who backs fiscal conservatism on domestic issues and a massive war budget as foreign policy.

I'll put this in British terms for you, Ian.

Progressive change can't be cheap(Tony Blair did nothing progressive in the UK until he started spending more than the Tories would have spent)and the Iraq War negated any gains workers and the poor made under New Labour

No one wants Blairism back in the UK, and no one will ever want it back there.

We don't need HRC to bring Americanized Blairism back here.

Neither the UK NOR the US is permanently center-right.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

88. I think most of what you say there is simply false.

There are a few bits, I agree with, though - the UK isn't currently centre-right, and there's no reason to suppose the US will be permanently, although it is currently.

[Ken Burch]

91. HRC hasn't ever been strong on POC issues.

She proved she no longer cared about racism or poverty when she helped form the Democratic Leadership Council, a group that fought to push the Democratic Party away from people of color, the poor, unions, and any defense of civil liberties.

And if you're going to say I said false things, you have to show why.

[cherokeeprogressive]

9. This OP absolutely proves a point I made in another post...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1586208

[Onlooker]

12. That's a Republican point

When you bring up race, you point to the integrated, diverse side and claim they are the one's who have race issues. The Sanders supporters have to own up to the awkward fact that one of the reasons they are not getting more support is that many liberals are uncomfortable with the relatively lack of diversity there. It may not be important to you, but it's important to a lot of people, and I think even a lot of Sanders supporters are a bit embarrassed by that fact.

[cherokeeprogressive]

14. You and your fellow Clinton supporters feast on race and gender. Hard to deny that.

This post points it out honestly.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1585240

[Bluenorthwest]

20. Of our two candidates just one openly opposed the civil rights of a minority group and did so until

2013, but she's the big champion of equality? Her supporters all cheered along when she said the Reagans were leaders on AIDS, that disease being prevalent first among gay men, then among African Americans in this country while globally the infection and death rate is almost entirely black and straight. So she promotes Ron and Nancy Death, and the people who are 'pro diversity' defend that? Get real.

What I see is Hillary fans who are antisemitic pushing a bunch of crap at Bernie. I see the bulk of her cohort on DU playing along with that.

[Onlooker]

24. The Clintons fought for gay rights ...

... at a time that the religious right and far right were forcing their agenda through Newt Gingrich's Contract with America, Bill Clinton was meeting with gays at the White House, appointing gays to government position, imposing anti-discrimination rules on federal offices and contractors, and doing much more. They fought but they lost big time on DOMA after state after state starting amending their constitutions to ouotlaw gay marriage. Even Bernie Sanders voted against DOMA on states rights grounds, not on civil rights grounds. The Clintons did an enormous amount after Reagan's failure to combat AIDS and continue to so through their Clinton Foundation. Bernie has no connection to the gay rights movement, and that is why so many gay rights groups have endorsed Hillary. Hillary's stupid comment about Nancy Reagan not withstanding, the fact is the Clinton's have actually been part of the gay rights struggle, its victories as well as its defeats. That doesn't mean that Bernie didn't have even better views, but he did not make anything happen.

[unapatriciated]

31. She fought for separate not equal rights

that is a big difference.

[beam me up scottie]

38. Now you claim to speak for the lgbt community too?

Bernie never opposed marriage equality, the fact that you are trying to sully his record and paint the pro-DOMA "marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman" Clintons speaks volumes about your character.

[Onlooker]

45. Actually he did oppose marriage equality ...

... but did his best to keep quiet about it. When pressed, he was not for gay marriage. That doesn't make his views worse than Hillary's, since it took Hillary longer than Bernie to come around, but Sanders was irrelevant in the struggle for gay rights. I don't speak for the gay community, but being gay and being an adult during the Reagan and Clinton era, I remember it well. There's a reason that gay groups back the Clintons; there's a reason she leads among gays.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-gay-marriage_us_569fcc4de4b0a7026bf9e06f

Sanders did support civil unions as far back as 15 years ago, but it was for the same reason he opposed the federal Defense of Marriage Act in 1996: his strong belief in state’s rights. He wasn’t advocating for legal marriage for same-sex couples. He actually avoided the subject.

As one Vermont columnist put it in 2000, getting a straight answer from Sanders on gay marriage “was like pulling teeth... from a rhinoceros.” In 2006, Sanders said he supported civil unions but not same-sex marriage, again deferring to states.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/10/05/bernie_sanders_on_marriage_equality_he_s_no_longtime_champion.html

Ten years later, Sanders took a similarly cautious approach to same-sex marriage. In 2006, he took a stand against same-sex marriage in Vermont, stating that he instead endorsed civil unions. Sanders told the Associated Press that he was “comfortable” with civil unions, not full marriage equality. (To justify his stance, Sanders complained that a battle for same-sex marriage would be too “divisive.”)

[beam me up scottie]

47. No he DIDN'T. Those are lies from a blogger and they've been debunked.

Here is the transcript from that video:

I was a strong supporter of civil unions, I believe that. I voted against the DOMA bill, I believe that the federal government should not be involved in overturning Massachusetts or any other the state because I think the whole issue of marriage is a state issue.

Bernie was opposed to the feds trying to overturn states who passed same sex legislation.

And this guy had a lot to say about that bullshit blogger:

I am sick of Hillary supporters lying about Bernie's record on lgbt rights, he never opposed marriage equality but she did, over and over again. She did much worse than that actually, she tried to convince others to oppose it.


Stop dismissing women and minorities who support Bernie, it's offensive as hell.

[Onlooker]

51. That quote is a states rights quote

States should be allowed to do as they fit. Bernie supported civil unions for Vermont, but recognized the right of other states to do as they please. I don't deny he believes in states rights, but states rights is what the segregationists believe in too. If we had states rights on gay marriage, we would not have gay marriage in the United States, except in a few liberal states. Vermont in fact did not legalize gay marriage until 2010, 6 years after Massachusetts became the first.

[bettyellen]

54. the states rights thing has been his fall back on "wedge issues" for a long time....

I have had many the debate with a few good friends over it. overall, it makes me uncomfortable.

[beam me up scottie]

57. Actually Hillary used it to support her opposition to marriage equality and gun owner's rights.

Let states & cities determine local gun laws

Q: Do you support the DC handgun ban?

A: I want to give local communities the authority over determining how to keep their citizens safe. This case you’re referring to is before the Supreme Court.

Q: But what do you support?

A: I support sensible regulation that is consistent with the constitutional right to own and bear arms.

Q: Is the DC ban consistent with that right?

A: I think a total ban, with no exceptions under any circumstances, might be found by the court not to be. But DC or anybody else come up with sensible regulations to protect their people.

Q: But do you still favor licensing and registration of handguns?

A: What I favor is what works in NY. We have one set of rules in NYC and a totally different set of rules in the rest of the state. What might work in NYC is certainly not going to work in Montana. So, for the federal government to be having any kind of blanket rules that they’re going to try to impose, I think doesn’t make sense.

Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary , Apr 16, 2008

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Gun_Control.htm

[bettyellen]

59. they both copped out of strongly supporting gay marriage until the electorate came around.

but she worked on incremental steps that I think slowly made it acceptable to the populace.

[beam me up scottie]

60. Except Bernie never opposed marriage equality, Hillary did - adamantly.

Why do her supporters want us to forget about her fierce opposition?

Stop trying to paint her as a champion for marriage equality, incrementally or otherwise, she opposed it until 2013.

[haikugal]

80. Thanks BMUS, lies, damned lies!!

[beam me up scottie]

82. And not even little ones, you can see those whoppers from space!

[beam me up scottie]

56. Supporting state's rights to pass same sex marriage legislation WAS supporting marriage equality.

Last edited Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:57 PM - Edit history (1)

I don't deny he believes in states rights, but states rights is what the segregationists believe in too. If we had states rights on gay marriage, we would not have gay marriage in the United States, except in a few liberal states.

Enough with the bullshit state's rights meme, of course it was a state's rights issue. Civil rights groups were struggling to pass legislation at the state level so they could OVERTURN DOMA.

By voting AGAINST DOMA Bernie supported same sex marriage for all states including Vermont. The quote you keep referring to was when Bernie said it was too soon to try to pass it in Vermont and he was right, it would have failed.

Unlike your candidate who opposed it for all states including and especially New York:

By voting against DOMA he was SUPPORTING state's rights to make same sex marriage legal, not trying to deny their right to do so.

Stop trying to rewrite history.

Vermont in fact did not legalize gay marriage until 2010, 6 years after Massachusetts became the first.

Now you're making up crap about Vermont?

Vermont passed a same sex marriage law in 2009, and was the FIRST state to overturn a constitutional ban against it. We passed the nation's first landmark civil union legislation the next year year:

1999: Civil Unions in Vermont

Hawaiian Supreme Court refused to recognize same-sex marriages, the Vermont Supreme Court handed down its decision in Baker v. State. In that decision, the court said that same-sex couples must be granted the same benefits and protections that heterosexual couples received under state law. The court instructed the state legislature to determine how to grant homosexual couples those benefits and protections. It didn’t require the state to allow same-sex couples to be legally married but instead told the state legislature it had to find some way to treat those couples the same as if they were legally married.

The Civil Union is Born

The next year, the state passed a bill allowing same-sex couples to enter into "civil unions." Town clerks were authorized to give licenses to same-sex couples for these unions in the same way they would give out marriage licenses. Same-sex couples could be married by anyone authorized to perform marriages under state law and would have to divorce under state law in the same way heterosexual couples would. According to the Vermont Secretary of State, in the first five years since the passage of the civil union law, 1,142 Vermont couples and 6,424 couples from other states and nations were joined.

Same-sex couples in civil unions in Vermont are entitled to all the benefits available under state law to married couples, including medical decisions, estate inheritance, overseeing burials, transferring properties, and certain tax breaks. Employers are required to treat civil union couples in the same way they treated other married couples, in matters including health benefits, marital status discrimination law, workers' compensation benefits, taxation, family leave benefits and wage assignment laws.

Civil Union Replaced by Same-Sex Marriage

The Vermont civil union bill was a landmark in the fight over gay marriages. For the first time, a state allowed gay couples to have all the same benefits as married couples under state law. In 2009, Vermont went one step further and approved same-sex marriages. The civil union is no longer available in Vermont, but any civil union entered into before September 1, 2009 is still honored.

Civil unions and the similar domestic partnership option are still offered in some states, such as Colorado, even though same-sex marriage is now legal at the federal level. Civil unions are also still available in Hawaii, Illinois, and Rhode Island. Oregon and Nevada provide broad domestic partnership benefits.

Same-sex marriage laws continuously changed up until the Supreme Court's 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges decision. And since marriage is no longer restricted to just heterosexual couples, the relevance of both civil unions and domestic partnerships likely will wane.

http://family.findlaw.com/domestic-partnerships/1999-civil-unions-in-vermont.html

Again you embarrass yourself with your assumptions and lack of knowledge about the subject.

[Ken Burch]

92. It doesn't matter why he voted against DOMA

Everyone who supported DOMA forever lost any right to claim to be an ally of the LGBTQ coommunity.

A constitutional amendment banning marriage equality would never have made it through the states anyway. Remember that they couldn't even get a balanced budget amendment ratified.

[bettyellen]

25. It certainly is.

[AlbertCat]

41. with the relatively lack of diversity there.

Just another version of the thoroughly debunked "Bernie doesn't get black people" meme....introduced I might add by the GOP way back in the summer.

So you are the one using Republican points.

[Ken Burch]

89. We have corrected all the things that cost us POC support earlier.

We never treated voters of color as if they didn't matter. And there is no way that voters of color are ever going to get better policies from the less-progressive candidate.

BTW, It's likely that we made our best showings of the campaign so far among voters of color in Washington, Hawaii, and Alaska. There was at least one Alaska Native district where we took 100%, and we overwhelmingly carried Anchorage, the most diverse city in the state. At 70% in Washington and Hawaii, we clearly made major gains among diverse communities in those states.

[cheapdate]

10. Hillary Clinton will see to it that the Department of Justice

takes an active role in enforcing anti-discrimination laws. She will select prosecutors and agency heads that agree with her philosophy. She will see to it that the Civil Rights Division at DOJ is provided with adequate resources to do its job. She will select judicial appointments with an eye towards how they might rule in equality cases.

Bernie will pretty much do the same in that regard. But Sanders political philosophy is significantly different from Hillary's in several important areas. Bernie is far less friendly to corporations, big business, big banking and finance. He is more inclined than Clinton to defend civil liberties when they are in conflict with state security. These ideas would also be reflected in his choices at DOJ and in his judicial appointments.

As far as what he will "offer" to "largely white, straight, Christian, and...male" supporters, I think they know what he stands for and are supporting him for informed, considered, and principled reasons. Less aggressive foreign policy, countering the power of Wall Street, humane immigration policy, etc.

[cherokeeprogressive]

15. She'll definitely bring some people to heel, that much is certain.

[riderinthestorm]

11. Can you give me the links that support your statement @ Bernie donors

being "largely white, straight, Christian...males"?

Thanks!

[H2O Man]

13. One thing he won't

offer them is the opportunity to kill and/or die in a foreign war for Wall Street.

[JackRiddler]

16. "largely white" etc., "arguably male" - weasel words.

The U.S. population is "largely white" etc. and "arguably" male - in fact, at least in 48% of the cases!

Hmmmmm... Kshama Sawant and Tulsi Gabbard don't seem to be any of that exactly. Jonathan Jackson and Cornel West are a bit closer, I think at least they're arguably male? Hmmmmmm....

Shame on you for divisive bullshit! Talk about the issues or give it up!

[TheBlackAdder]

48. Ugh. Another race-baiting OP. Divisivness, that's a RW/GOP divide and conquer tactic! nt

[Bluenorthwest]

17. Obama did pretty well representing LGBT of all faiths and races while being a straight Christian

African American. Don't you think that he did? Why do you think it is different for Bernie? Is it again the fact that he's 'not Baptist' that makes the rules so different for him among some of DU's Bernie bashers? I think that's what it is alright. Sick of it.
Camp Clinton needs a clean up.

[Barack_America]

18. Shameful. Beneath the Democratic Party.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

19. aww. is somebody feeling cranky this morning?

Sore loserman?

[Kittycat]

21. It's these most ridiculous claims that make me

I Want to post a picture of my family.
When they teach about immigration, blended families and the changing face of America, I can just pull a photo album out for my kids to take in. Most of my relatives married foreigners, and just over half of my cousins and siblings are adopted.

I really dislike the term, "you don't know me". But when it comes to sweeping, uninformed generalizations of Bernie supporters, they really know very little about any of us. If they cared to, they might understand why, in all of my whiteness I'm a democrat. Why I support the policies I do, why I support Bernie over Hillary, and why I give a damn about the direction of this country not slipping further right or center.

[Fairgo]

28. I love the new avatar

Quite fetching. Nice to have asymbol that actually stands for something

[Kittycat]

50. Thanks. eom

[unapatriciated]

94. I feel the same

If I posted a pick of my children and grandchildren, it would not look like me an old white woman. They are the reason I (as well as my children and grandchildren) support Sanders.

My family is a loving blend of many races and Glbt's as well.

[Bread and Circus]

22. Christian? What? It seems the bible thumpers go for Clinton...what am I missing?

[JackRiddler]

23. The thumpers, sure, but the believers in Christ's teachings...

They've been with Sanders.

[PatrickforO]

30. Yes, they have.

Sanders reflects what they've been longing for all along.

[libtodeath]

26. This is the best that Clinton supporters have?

[2banon]

27. huh? This implies that young straight white christians aren't already amply represented

MORE than amply represented. In both parties! GOOD GRIEF!

[AlbertCat]

42. huh? This implies that young straight white christians aren't already amply represented

I know!

Pretty funny!

Well, they can't talk about Hillary and her record so they'll just say any stupid thing about Sanders.

[PatrickforO]

29. Narrowing Bernie's base of support just a LITTLE BIT, aren't we?

Bernie's supporters come in all genders, ethnicities, races and sexual preferences. And they CERTAINLY aren't all 'christian.'

[beam me up scottie]

32. Why are you marginalizing millions of women and minorities who support Bernie?

Exploiting our causes to smear Bernie is a despicable tactic right out of Rove's playbook.

Just when I think Hillary supporters can't go any lower.

[Fozzledick]

33. As wonderfully as he'll represent everyone else (except anti-Semites).

I think the overwhelming support he's received from Muslims, Sikhs, Native Alaskans and Hawaiians indicates how diverse his appeal really is.

Of course there's always a small group of haters who are just gonna hate. Some people say we should just ignore them, but I think we need to recognize them for who they really are.

[Sunlei]

34. I think both Sanders and Clinton will treat all people equally & follow our laws.

We're all allowed to own stocks aren't we?

[JPnoodleman]

35. I was not aware the protestant white lady with an English Surname...

Was the pinnacle of PoC'ness.... but we live in strange times.

[AlbertCat]

43. I was not aware the protestant white lady with an English Surname...

...who's favorite book is The Bible! (so she says)

How is she gonna represent those who's favorite book is NOT the Bible?

[senz]

36. Please provide proof of your "common knowledge" allegation.

I think you're using this OP in an attempt to narrow Bernie's appeal and alienate voters who are not "white straight Christian males."

Please provide a link to back up your empty accusation.

And DO NOT EVEN TRY TO IMPLY THAT BERNIE SUPPORTERS ARE WELL OFF AND DONATING LARGE SUMS OF MONEY TO HIS CAMPAIGN.

They have been donating to his campaign in impressive numbers, and relative to their income their donations are even more impressive. As they continue to buy Bernie,

That is completely false and you know it.

[Capt. Obvious]

37. This post

is another shining example of 5 hide+ amnesty.

[AlbertCat]

44. is another shining example of 5 hide+ amnesty.

That was SUCH A GOOD IDEA, wasn't it?


Well, at least it disproved those on time-outs didn't deserve them...big time.

[SheilaT]

39. I have two sons, young, white, straight.

Although they were raised as Jews, neither one is any kind of a believer at this point. So I guess that since they're not Christian, their support of Bernie doesn't matter?

[AlbertCat]

40. How will Bernie represent young straight white men of Christian heritage?

The same way he will represent everyone else.... as an American Citizen.

[2banon]

46. I don't get your post at all.

Maybe I'm being dense.

[Kalidurga]

55. Bernie is Jewish

The poster is trying to be slick.

[beam me up scottie]

62. DING DING DING! Exactly, the dog whitles are getting louder all the time.

[haikugal]

71. Yep...there it is.

[bvf]

49. "Common knowledge."

Way to put new lipstick on that pig of a meme, there.

You'll surely have no problem finding many websites better dedicated to your concerns, many of them under the scrutiny of SPLC et al.

[DrDan]

52. promises of those things . . . delivering will be another matter

[haikugal]

69. Bernie is a fighter...he WILL wear those comfortable shoes and walk the line.

[haikugal]

64. Really?

Now, it's common knowledge that Bernie's base is largely white, straight, Christian, and arguably male. They have been donating to his campaign in impressive numbers, and relative to their income their donations are even more impressive. As they continue to buy Bernie, what do you think he will offer them -- $15/hour wages, free college, reductions in their college loans, what else?

Unbelievable.

Buy Bernie? This is a not very clever way of attempting to spin Hillary and her horrible policy.

With Bernie it's "He's with us", with Hillary it's "we're with her", a huge difference.

[beam me up scottie]

66. It's a dog whistle and they're not exactly being subtle about it.

He isn't Christian but can be bought by them *wink wink nudge nudge*

[haikugal]

68. They don't do subtle....

Hey girl! It's good to see you.

[beam me up scottie]

70. Good to se you too, my friend.

We need to call out these smarmy tactics whenever we see them, it's bad enough when low life right wing troglodytes stoop to this level of gutter politics.

[blueintelligentsia]

65. Well at least he went to their most conservative college and talked to them...

I don't see Hillary doing anything like that anytime soon.

[Kalidurga]

73. The audience was very polite too. Some even applauded.

It was a lot like when Ted Cruz spoke to a largely conservative audience of young people. Oh wait no it wasn't they did #bored #killmenow #helpIamtrapped and no applause.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

76. I think it's time to move on

[AgerolanAmerican]

77. privilege cookies

Bernie will charter those two legendary cookie bakers, Hillary Clinton and Victoria Nuland, to make FREE privilege cookies for everyone!*






* only white straight Christian male everyones, of course

[AgingAmerican]

83. Steaming pant load

[lumberjack_jeff]

84. Right. Because handouts to Wall Street are preferable to $15 minimum wage and free education.

And that is what you said.

Any policy which might, however incidentally, benefit working class straight white men is to be opposed at all costs. This is what social justice progressivism has become.

[Ken Burch]

85. Those things are good for everybody

Please stop pretending that Bernie only cares about white men. If you are on the Left, you are a committed antiracist.

BTW, Bernie is Jewish and most of Bernie's supporters are basically secular, so he's not going to be taking the side of Christians against everyone else.

[Vote2016]

90. Christian? how did Dearborn vote?

[k8conant]

93. I don't know the current ethnic breakdown of Dearborn Democrats but:

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
Vote for not more than 1
Hillary Clinton........ 4,730 39.23
Roque Rocky De La Fuente . . . . . 7 .06
Martin J. O'Malley . . . . . . . 14 .12
Bernie Sanders......... 7,126 59.11
Uncommitted.......... 172 1.43
WRITE‐IN........... 7 .06

http://www.cityofdearborn.org/images/DbnResults/EL45.pdf

I used to be a Dearborn Democrat but I left in 1981.

[TheFarS1de]

95. Heard of the Old Testament ?

There is your connection and answer , now fuck off with the Jew Baiting .