Put aside the GD-P animosity for a second: post who you think is the strongest VP pick for both

[Recursion]

Just curious who people think either candidate would be best off choosing.

In my case:

Sanders: Landrieu or Beshear

Clinton: Villaraigosa or Castro

[Sky Masterson]

1. Elisabeth Warren

Drops Mic.

[Recursion]

2. *Horrible* pick for Sanders

Doubling down on New England is an awful idea.

Doubtful pick for Clinton for similar reasons (NY is pretty close to NE).

Also she spells her name with a "z".

[Renew Deal]

7. I don't know why people keep pushing her

She has been very clear that she doesn't want to be president and that she feels she could be more effective in the senate.

[Agschmid]

13. Me either.

[Sky Masterson]

15. Warren is the only VP that would cause me to vote Hillary

Without holding my nose.
Plus she has the added benefit of being a woman which would help Bernie.

[oberliner]

24. Elizabeth Warren was born and raised in Oklahoma

She spent much of her adult life living and working in Texas.

She moved to Massachusetts in her late 40s.

[musiclawyer]

36. Per conventional 20th century wisdom

Bernie is running a 21st Century campaign. So is Hillary.

[Kip Humphrey]

52. In this Internet Age, I think regionalism only has play anymore in the South, particularly

with respect to VP picks.

My Bernie VP picks are, in order of preference:

1. Elizabeth Warren - must announce 5 days before New York & New England states that follow. This would end the nominating process quickly with Bernie winning.

2. Tulsi Gabbard - has lots of pluses including good party & plenty of tick-box creds. Plus crossover potential from horny republicon males - a potential devastating blow if Trump is the repug candidate (its the Sarah Palin syndrome in the republicon party)

3. Nina Turner - weakest political credentials as a state official but that state is Ohio. She is an intelligent young black woman with real passion and a flair for the stump.

My Hillary VP picks are:

I have none; a waste of my time.

[Armstead]

3. Bernie -- Rep. Jan Schiakovsky

She's very progressive, but also close to Obama, so a good bridge candidate.

Clinton? Maybe Sen Sherrod Brown.

[Recursion]

5. Ooh... damn good picks in both cases

Props.

[Peregrine Took]

4. Tulsi Gabbard for Bernie. PERFECT candidate

[Trenzalore]

38. Bernie could do better than Tulsi Gabbard.

Just because she endorsed him doesn't make her a good pick. It would actually make the most sense to pick a progressive that was with Hillary.

[Renew Deal]

6. I really think the Castros are not ready

Probably less ready than Rubio.

Maybe Sherrod Brown. It's "his turn" in many ways. There are some more I could change me up with.

[Recursion]

8. What do you think about O'Malley?

I'm still ultimately an O'Malley supporter, but the sad truth is I can't see him bringing much to either candidate in the VP spot...

Fair point about Castro, but I think Villaraigosa could do a lot.

[Renew Deal]

17. Clearly ready

O'Malley is as qualified as anyone and can make points. I just don't understand why he doesn't connect.

[Agschmid]

18. I'd love to have him on the ticket.

All white though, that's a bit boring.

[Recursion]

20. Exactly: great personality, no particular draw to the 2016 ticket.

I think he'd do great in DWS's job, though...

[Jackie Wilson Said]

33. Less ready than Rubio?

I cant find the words to respond other than "no, Rubio was not only not ready, but has zero in the brains department"

[Renew Deal]

66. Do you think he's ready to be president?

Because that's really the question. I'm sure he's smart, but his experience is very limited.

[Trust Buster]

9. Senator Sherrod Brown from my state of Ohio.

That's the progressive I think Hillary will choose with an importance on Ohio in the general.

[Recursion]

11. He'd be a strong and safe pick for either, and pretty much seal Ohio, which we need

Unless we're facing Kasich, in which case we need to write Ohio off, sadly, and pick off a few Appalachian states.

[Vattel]

12. I think that's the plan.

[Vattel]

10. Villaraigosa? You have got to be kidding.

That wouldn't exactly make the ticket seem less corrupt.

[Recursion]

19. That matters less than people seem to think

I think Villaraigosa would be a good match for Clinton and an awful match for Sanders, and I think that's because they would have to run very different campaigns, and you're basically describing why.

[Vattel]

34. He is not qualified for dog catcher in my view. Castro would be way better.

edited to add: My apologies to dog catchers everywhere.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

14. Both would do well to consider Joe Biden.

Biden could burnish Sanders' foreign policy credentials. And he could hopefully moderate some of Clinton's more hawkish views.

[Vattel]

16. Clinton: Brown Sanders: Warren

[Recursion]

22. Sanders/Warren doubles down on New England. The textbook says not to do that.

Not saying it's impossible, just that the theory of the day says not to do that.

[socialist_n_TN]

25. Yeah, but the textbooks said no "Double Bubba" in Clinton/Gore......

And that worked out pretty well for the Dems.

[Vattel]

40. That's true. I guess I was thinking more about who would make a good VP.

Another issue is whether she would be willing.

[Bluenorthwest]

54. Warren is from Oklahoma and when she speaks that is massively apparent.

She sounds like my elder Aunts, or like my Mom but most specifically like my Mother's late cousin Leela.

[Live Bait]

21. Landrieu or Beshears?

Are you effing kidding me?

I think I know who Bernie will ask. I'll just wait until Bernie secures the nomination first.

[Recursion]

23. Not kidding at all. Landrieu was instrumental in getting ACA passed

And Bernie is damn sure going to run on having expanding clinic funding in ACA, along with Landrieu.

Beshear puts KY in play, which is worth it simply for that.

[Live Bait]

27. How about a VP pick that would also put the entire South in play?

as in a 50-state strategy.

I know *exactly* who Bernie will pick if he wants this to happen.

[icecreamfan]

26. Clinton: Brown Sanders: Barbara Lee or Tulsi Gabbard

[Live Bait]

29. Good eye!

I like your picks for Sanders.

Brown should not be anywhere near Clinton if he wants to keep his dignity.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

39. Thread title says put aside the animosity yet you attack the likely Democratic nominee

in such a disgusting way that it is hard to imagine you voting Democratic.

[Live Bait]

44. Excuse me, she is not the likely Democratic nominee.

Please put your damn bias aside, and let the rest of the states play it out.

You'd be amazed to find out that at the end, it will be Bernie, not Clinton.

Plus, it was an advice for Brown, not an attack to Clinton, so...

[Jackie Wilson Said]

46. LIkely based on the stats, not my personal desire, since I am a Bernie voter.

Your ugly character assassination of ACCORDING TO THE STATS likely Democratic nominee is disgusting.

[Punkingal]

51. I doubt you are a Bernie supporter.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

53. Your comment does far more harm than good, not only a Bernie supporter but almost

certainly was one before you knew who he was.

Some of you are so new at this, it is embarrassing.

Your comment should make me angry, but at this point I no longer am surprised.

[Punkingal]

55. I have been a Bernie supporter for YEARS.

I have also been on this board since 2002, and I've seen a lot. Some things are very transparent.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

56. Doubling down, I see, on your harming of our candidate by questioning someone who

supports him both verbally and financially.

This is an immature approach you are taking, that if someone is not Bern or Bust they must be a liar, etc.

This is a good example of why Bernie is not getting certain votes that he needs, thankfully I have not contributed to this problem.

you have, of course, as is clearly seen here.

You will not find a single comment of mine that tears down either candidate.

[Punkingal]

57. I never mention Bernie or Bust.

And the line "this is an example of why Bernie is not getting certain votes that he needs" is a popular one here. Are you saying you might not vote for Bernie because of me?

[Jackie Wilson Said]

64. God no, of course not. But your and others attitude about Hillary going way back to the

beginning of this election, here and on the internet, is the issue.

I watched and said nothing for a long time as a lurker but I finally had to engage the insanity I was seeing.

The repeated remarks about not voting if Hillary is the nominee, whether you have said this or not at this point doesn't matter because the endless bashing of Hillary does have it's consequences.

[Punkingal]

65. I understand what you are saying about Hillary, but I don't think it really matters here.

We are Democrats, and if we can't complain and vent to each other what is the point of being here? I was a huge Bill Clinton supporter. I met them in New Hampshire at a town hall the Saturday before the Gennifer Flowers story broke, and I was solidly in their corner from that point on. I supported them right through the Lewinsky scandal, and I thought it was outrageous the way they were treated.

But a lot of things since have opened my eyes...the Telecommunications Act, which caused us to no longer have a free press, the crime bill, which gave us the awful 3 strikes law, and I could go on and on. Hillary supported these things, even spoke up for them, and I no longer feel the Clintons offer what I want as a Democrat. I was raised by FDR democrats, I got interested in politics because of the Kennedys, and I want that back. Bernie speaks more to the things that matter to me. I also think Clinton and her surrogates have played dirty...Bernie cares about people, ALL people, and it should never have been said that he doesn't.

Having said all that, I am disgusted with all 3 of the Republican choices, and I certainly won't vote for whoever their nominee is. All three of them are equally dangerous, including Kasich, who pretends to be so nice. He was a real shit when he was in Congress, and I haven't forgotten that.

I apologize for getting on your case. I hope we can understand each other better now.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

68. Yes, cool, thanks

[Agschmid]

35. I don't think Tulsi brings much to the table, otherwise not bad choices.

[angrychair]

28. Tulsi Gabbard for Sanders

Smart, well-spoken, great debater, veteran, women, person of color (native Pacific Islander) likely to the right of Sanders on some issues. Very strong VP.


Clinton: not sure but I would think anyone from the progressive caucus would help. She needs someone to the left of here if she is to bring at lest some Sanders supporters back to her side.

[Live Bait]

32. But Lee puts the entire South in play.

Working on that 50 state strategy, plus the EV's from Texas could go to Sanders, easily.

[metroins]

47. I have nothing good to say about Lee

If she were chosen, her entire family and business dealings will go on spotlight.

This would not be good for her.

[angrychair]

50. As much as I would love to see a purple or blue south

I realized in 2012 that was just a dream. If the first black president and the greatest president of the modern era cannot carry a southern state than no one can. (not counting FL, it is not a southern state in the same context as AL or SC)

[Hiraeth]

30. Louisisana Governor: John Bel Edwards for either one.

balances the ticket for both.

[socialist_n_TN]

31. If she wants it, Elizabeth Warren for both of them

Keeps the assassins away. Balances both of the tickets philosophy in different ways.

[JonLeibowitz]

37. Sanders: Barbara Lee Clinton: Anthony Weiner

Wait wait wait, why the hell would I pick Weiner who is scandal-ridden? Because I know he gives a damn about the American people which is more than I can say about Clinton.

[Agschmid]

42. Hey that's a Dangerous pick...

...

...

...

Carlos Danger that is.

[JonLeibowitz]

59. Well played sir...

[firebrand80]

41. The type of pick each needs:

Bernie: Someone strong on national security/foreign policy. He needs to assure people there will be an experienced, steady hand in his ear. A person on the younger side would be nice too.

Hillary: Someone that excites the base and young people. Doesn't necessarily need to be a Hispanic person, the GOP is doing a fine job of turning out that constituency.

[MadBadger]

43. I like Mark Warner or Tim Kaine, really for both.

[Tikki]

45. Julian Castro

Tikki

[DrDan]

48. Castro as VP for Hillary

young, Hispanic, from the South, local and national experience, educated

what's not to like?

[basselope]

49. Villaraigosa former mayor of LA???

I don't think she needs someone with a sex scandal running on a ticket with her.

For Sanders I think Sherrod Brown would be a good choice.

[Kalidurga]

58. .........

For Bernie: Tulsi Gabbard, Nina Turner, or Russ Feingold For Hillary: Brian Schweitzer just cuz I like him and he deserves more name recognition.

[JonLeibowitz]

60. Feingold is our best chance of taking back the senate.

[Kalidurga]

61. Yeah, but I still like him for a VP pick

I have to admit it's mostly because of the CON head exploding factor though. I really love seeing CONs lose their chit.

[Betty Karlson]

62. Sanders: Nina Turner.

Clinton: Tulsi Gabbard. Because that would at least show a willingness to rebuild the bridges she and Debbie were happy to burn.

[DonCoquixote]

63. the smart clinton picks would be

Liz Warren: yes, she seems like a poor fit, but picking her would say that has a deal to those ion the bernie/warren orbit, that is you elect Hillary, then after she goes, you can put Liz in. It is the same sort of deal she made with Obama.

Cory Booker: A very cagey pol who knows how to fight. He can attack Trump in his home area and make him look like crap.

And as much as I am the Latino, I do not think Castro or Villarafiosa would work. Both of them are lightweights that people could not see in the Oval Office. If I had to pick a Latino, I would rather have Bill Richardson (who despite the name, is Mexican-American) He is useful especially if the GOP rolls out Susanna Martinez.

[Vinca]

67. Warren for Hillary if she wants to attract Bernie supporters. I can't decide for Bernie.

It would have to be someone who shares his vision and a minority might help him. Ben Jealous? Nina Turner?

[LWolf]

69. Okay.

Sanders: A woman. Warren would be great. So would some others:

Barbara Lee; Rosa DeLauro; Donna Edwards; Nydia Velazquez; Judy Chu....the list goes on and on.

Clinton? I've got nothing, because I don't think she'd choose anyone I'd be interested in. I don't want a neo-liberal in the WH, and I don't want a VP a neo-liberal would choose as running mate. If she chose a running mate who is clearly NOT a neo-liberal, it might help her a bit in November, but I can't see her doing that. If she did, it wouldn't be anything more than window dressing, but I really don't think she, and the establishment she heads, would want to set up a future candidate who was not on the neo-liberal bandwagon.