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Yesterday less than 300,000 people voted. In 2008 almost 2,000,000 people voted in NY alone. (Original Post) onehandle Mar 2016 OP
The Bernie camp is better at exaggerating small victories. Gomez163 Mar 2016 #1
230K voted in Washington MadBadger Mar 2016 #2
Are you sure? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #3
Mixing up delegates with voters MadBadger Mar 2016 #4
The 230,000 is a good estimate but the problem is we don't know the exact number. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #13
Got the number from the Democratic Party of Washington MadBadger Mar 2016 #14
Thank you... I knew the OP's numbers were way off... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #15
so ... there are more people to vote in New York than Washingon and the other two states which means roguevalley Mar 2016 #40
Where does the junior senator from Vermont hail from? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #57
"But hey, we all make mistakes." ljm2002 Mar 2016 #44
Typed the wrong first digit. Fixed it. onehandle Mar 2016 #16
No problem...They just looked odd... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #19
Yeah that "math" stuff can be tricky... n/t ljm2002 Mar 2016 #45
New York is not just NYC Live Bait Mar 2016 #5
Cuz signs=voters MadBadger Mar 2016 #10
NYC turns the rest of the state into a pumpkin on election night. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #17
Yea, NYC represented more than 50% of the vote in the 08' primary. MadBadger Mar 2016 #23
Yep! hrmjustin Mar 2016 #25
But its' a proportional pumpkin. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #28
True but Hillary will wipe out most or all of Sanders gains from this weekend. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #29
If she does far better than 08, but it's 291 delegates she got 57% in 08, 165 for her, 116 for him.. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #33
It adds to her gains. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #36
I think you look DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #11
I forgot that NY is being cut up into two mini-states. onehandle Mar 2016 #21
... SidDithers Mar 2016 #24
You are awarebthat the majority of Democratic voters in our state are in the south of the state? hrmjustin Mar 2016 #26
NYC is also not the NYC Clintonistas imagine. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #49
OK, I went to "see Math". Math says your numbers are wrong. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #6
I thought Bernie won Vermont. WhiteTara Mar 2016 #7
Bernie is from NY bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #9
"Hillary could barely win her birth state of Illinois." MadBadger Mar 2016 #12
He did, she got a big fat goose egg in delegates in Vermont. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #22
And 1,999,995 voted against Hillary. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #8
1,068,496 voted for Hillary. onehandle Mar 2016 #18
Hillary will win NYC big and the surrounding suburbs. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #20
If most of those people voted for Bernie Sanders... Hillary's in a pinch. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #27
Just 2.5 million more people than Bernie so far. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #30
And to hear Clinton supporters tell it... most of them black women. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #34
Nice, craptastic response. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #41
No no 2.5 million more people that where counted and recorded Gwhittey Mar 2016 #54
There are only a few states that haven't reported popularly vote totals so far LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #59
NY Democratic Primary had 1,862,445 votes in total. Hillary got 57.37%. Interesting story from then: Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #31
Wow--I had forgotten all about that! TheDormouse Mar 2016 #37
We no longer use the lever machines in NY. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #46
Well that's certainly good. What are you using? Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #47
We have a paper ballot we fill out and put it in a electronic counting machines. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #48
Which then swallow them and goodbye. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #50
I think they count them. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #52
You think? JackRiddler Mar 2016 #55
No. It would be accurate to say it is a hope. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #56
YEEESSSS! Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #32
Caucus States vs. ballot voting Lorien Mar 2016 #35
Voters <> state delegates mhatrw Mar 2016 #38
This is why states don't all have primaries at the same time Dem2 Mar 2016 #39
KNR Thank you! Lucinda Mar 2016 #42
In February Bernie had 4% support nationally; now he has 45% or more... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #43
What is the benefit to the Clinton camp of this voter suppression strategy? JackRiddler Mar 2016 #51
Passive aggressive much azmom Mar 2016 #53
So is the 300,000 number in your OP now correct? And that is across three different states??!! Number23 Mar 2016 #58

MadBadger

(24,089 posts)
14. Got the number from the Democratic Party of Washington
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:55 PM
Mar 2016

I do agree though. We should know voters as well as delegates

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
15. Thank you... I knew the OP's numbers were way off...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

But, hey, we all make mistakes...And I don't believe it was intentional.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
40. so ... there are more people to vote in New York than Washingon and the other two states which means
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:34 PM
Mar 2016

what? There is no guarantee that the people of new york will vote for the carpetbagger. This election cycle should tell everyone that.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
57. Where does the junior senator from Vermont hail from?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:00 PM
Mar 2016

Thank you in advance.

BTW, he loved New York so much he moved to Vermont. Great career move, though.


ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
44. "But hey, we all make mistakes."
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:57 PM
Mar 2016

Sure. But if one is going to include snarky remarks in one's posts such as:

"See: Math"


Then one should get one's numbers right -- or expect a few barbs in return IMO.
 

Live Bait

(93 posts)
5. New York is not just NYC
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:47 PM
Mar 2016

Upstate NY doesn't even like Clinton at all.

I see many Bernie signs, but not Clinton signs.

Now, shoo, before you look silly.

MadBadger

(24,089 posts)
10. Cuz signs=voters
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:50 PM
Mar 2016

I drive down a major road I see tons of signs planted in the divider where nobody lives.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
33. If she does far better than 08, but it's 291 delegates she got 57% in 08, 165 for her, 116 for him..
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mar 2016

That does not wipe out today's gains, it adds to them.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
11. I think you look
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:51 PM
Mar 2016
Now, shoo, before you look silly.



I think you look silly issuing unenforceable ultimatums on the internet, am I right?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
26. You are awarebthat the majority of Democratic voters in our state are in the south of the state?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:09 PM
Mar 2016
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
49. NYC is also not the NYC Clintonistas imagine.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:14 PM
Mar 2016

We may well be ready to put an end to her carpetbaggery.

Hard to believe after the long series of results showing up the polls that they're still trying to sell any and every poll, especially weeks in advance of a primary vote.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
22. He did, she got a big fat goose egg in delegates in Vermont.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:05 PM
Mar 2016

She probably then promptly turned around and fried it!!




 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
27. If most of those people voted for Bernie Sanders... Hillary's in a pinch.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:10 PM
Mar 2016

She doesn't seem to inspire many people.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
34. And to hear Clinton supporters tell it... most of them black women.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mar 2016

Careful you don't run out of those.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
54. No no 2.5 million more people that where counted and recorded
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:26 PM
Mar 2016

Many Many states do not keep the individual vote. Most of the caucus do not pass on the votes of each voter but the vote of precinct delegates. That is why so many Hillary supporters where silly and posted about how only 26K people voted in WA. Math only works when you are smart enough to understand what the numbers mean.

Bobby has 5 apples and buys 2 oranges the answer how many apples does Bobby have is not 7.

LuvLoogie

(6,935 posts)
59. There are only a few states that haven't reported popularly vote totals so far
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:29 PM
Mar 2016

I was commenting on the supposed lack of enthusiasm for Hillary. So I am offering empirical evidence that shows Hillary voters have so far been more enthusiastic given the votes tallied. If a Bernie voter wants to slam enthusiasm for Hillary, real numbers undermine that assertion.

I suppose you could show me the non-popular-vote-reporting caucus states that Bernie won and claim that he won those states by 2.5 million people or more. Most would think such a claim dubious.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
31. NY Democratic Primary had 1,862,445 votes in total. Hillary got 57.37%. Interesting story from then:
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

Count All the Votes!
February 19, 2008
"It's like the Florida recount, but in Harlem.

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was shortchanged hundreds of votes in several largely African American precincts in New York City, the New York Post reports.

Eighty election districts in New York City didn't record a single vote for Obama. Thousands for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and hundreds for former No. Carolina Sen. John Edwards, somehow did.

As the New York Times reports, in one largely black district in Brooklyn, the initial tally was 118 to 0, a Clinton sweep. A review showed the actual result was 118 for Clinton, 116 to Obama."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/count-all-the-v.html

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
50. Which then swallow them and goodbye.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:16 PM
Mar 2016

Lots of paper that won't ever be counted.

Theoretically better than all-electronic I suppose.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
35. Caucus States vs. ballot voting
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:35 PM
Mar 2016

but tell yourself whatever you need to to keep cheering for the bloodthirsty neocon.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
39. This is why states don't all have primaries at the same time
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:11 PM
Mar 2016

Different areas can exhibit their regional politics and get abundant media coverage.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
51. What is the benefit to the Clinton camp of this voter suppression strategy?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:18 PM
Mar 2016

Hey, if she's a million miles ahead according to all these junk polls that almost always turn out WRONG, whose vote do you think that's likelier to suppress? (Hint: Not Sanders').

Number23

(24,544 posts)
58. So is the 300,000 number in your OP now correct? And that is across three different states??!!
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:20 PM
Mar 2016

761,000 voted in the state of Georgia alone.

300,000 across three states is fucking ridiculous.

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