A poster on this site asks Why should Hillary debate Berrnie again ?

[awake]

I just wanted to say the Hillary should debate again because she gave her word on it when she felt that she needed to debate Bernie in N.H.
I would assume that most Hillary suporters think that Hillary should stick to the promises that she has made.

Hillary can not afford to add any more questions to her trustworthiness espesaly for the GE if she does win the nomination.

You may have seen a similar post here earlier which was locked, I have reposted the hart of that discussion here, this is in no way intended to disrupt or attack anyone, I just feel that no matter who you support we need all of our candidates to be the best that they can be and as trustworthy as possible. In my opinion it is in the best interest of our party to get as much free tv to present our ideas and issues which a nother debate will allow.

[gollygee]

1. It wouldn't be in her best interest to do that

Bernie has a lot of momentum right now. A debate would be great for him. She has nothing to gain from it. I can't imagine she'd agree to do another one.

But I think whichever one of them wins the nomination will easily win the general.

[awake]

5. I remember thinking the same thing when Ronald Regean ran

I thought he was a joke and would be easy to beat so I am not so cocky any more

[gollygee]

7. You thought Reagan would be easy to beat?

I don't remember that being a common thought. I remember people expecting him to win, but being surprised by how much he won by.

[kristopher]

9. So her word means nothing?

[Fairgo]

11. We shall see...

It could not be more straightforward

[gollygee]

16. I think it would be great if she did, but I'd be surprised

Because it wouldn't help her and could hurt her. I doubt she'll do it. As for what her word is worth, I don't know, it probably depends on the specifics, but you know she's a politician.

[kristopher]

17. Bodes well for all those populist positions she has recently adopted, eh?

"No We Can't" is going to become "I got mine, forget you"

[CorporatistNation]

3. Especially Since The FREE TV Has Been Purposefully DISPROPORTIONATELY Allocated Thus Far!

So she needs to demonstrate the courage to compete for the nomination or give up her quest. She is either as TOUGH and SUBSTANTIAL as she says she is....... or... She is NOT!

No Debate... then she clearly IS lacking... SOMETHING!

[randr]

4. Shes got some splanin to do

I want to know why she condones DWS's presence on the DNC after sponsoring a bill to prey on poor people.

[Trenzalore]

6. People losing always want more debates

People winning always want less.

This is about as standard as the person losing claiming the media is unfair.

[awake]

8. This has more to do with keeping your word

[Trenzalore]

10. There will be a debate in April

No one has said there won't be. On the calendar agreed to it is TBD.

Sanders taking the negotiations between the two campaigns public is kind of slimy.

[awake]

12. I started this OP in response to someone wondering why Hillary should debate

I hope the the rest of the debates remain as agreed on in N.H.

[Trenzalore]

15. People on DU don't determine when candidates debate

The calendar says TBD and the two campaigns are negotiating where it will take place.

Bernie is demanding New York and Hillary has asked for Pennsylvania.

One campaign is taking the negotiations public to try to get leverage for their position.

[Fairgo]

13. hahaha...good one

oh. wait. you are serious.

[Trenzalore]

14. Hillary proposed a debate in Pennsylvania

Sanders is demanding one in New York.

Sanders is taking their negotiations public to try to gain leverage. That is all you are seeing.

[kristopher]

18. Sanders conditioned additional debates on the NY location

It went from Hillary shutting out everyone from meaningful debates, to Hillary begging for more debates.

Bernie agreed with the condition being one in NY in April.

Now Hillary is trying sneak away from it.

[Trenzalore]

19. I don't see Hillary ever agreed to that

I see in the articles as Sanders saying that he wanted it.

[kristopher]

20. You do see the condition being attached though, don't you?

It isn't complicated. It only becomes complicated when someone is trying to avoid living up to an agreement, no matter if that agreement is implied or explicit.

[Trenzalore]

21. The condition was actually a sanctioned debate in April and May were added to the calendar

[kristopher]

22. The location was clearly a condition of acceptance. You already admitted that.

[Trenzalore]

24. The only location that was agreed to was Flint

Here is the article of when the debates were added.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/03/bernie-sanders-says-yes-to-debate-with-hillary-clinton-on-thursday-night/

[Fairgo]

26. Stop, you'll sprain something

Best to obsfucate that which is actually in doubt.

[Trenzalore]

27. At no time was a NYC debate agreed to

Saying otherwise is purely making shit up.

[bettyellen]

31. So Bernie won't debate unless it is in NY? Because Hillary never agreed to it- but if you are

right about SBS making NY a condition (link?) then Clinton has an out. Sanders would be a fool to let her off the hook like that.
He needs more debates. He has no leverage to demand the location.

[CorporatistNation]

34. Keeping Her "WORD" Has Never Been One oF Hillary's Stongest Points!

So let's see how she does on this one.... We need to put the pressure on Hillary is running to SERVE THE PEOPLE... NOT the other way around... Maybe she needs to be schooled a bit on that point?

[ebayfool]

23. Or people that are afraid that their opponent is gaining momentum?

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/27/bernie-sanders-challenges-hillary-clinton-debate-york.html

snip/

Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver sent a letter to Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook pressing him for the April Democratic debate to be held in New York, “It is difficult to understand your motivation. Can you please explain why New York should not host the April debate? Is the Secretary concerned about debating before the people who twice elected her to the U.S. Senate? Perhaps there is some tactical advantage you are seeking by avoiding a debate in New York but I would remind you that Sen. Sanders agreed to debate the secretary in New Hampshire when he was well ahead in the polls.”

[Trenzalore]

25. They are negotiating the location not whether there will be a debate

Once again, Sanders is adopting shitty tactics to try to get his way.

[Fairgo]

28. Now there you go sliding into copraphilia

But if that is your weapon of choice, feel free to splash around.

[Trenzalore]

29. That was actually pretty funny

[ebayfool]

33. You sent me to Google with copraphilia.

I wish I hadn't ...

[ebayfool]

32. Did not say they it was about whether there will be a debate.

I was pointing out that Sanders conceded to Clinton's request for a debate when he was up in the polls (NH) after you decreed that those winning want less debates.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511588146#post6
"People losing always want more debates.
People winning always want less."

As far as shitty tactics go, this is a tempest in a teapot. Especially in this season.

[Fairgo]

35. And all that being said...

I apologise for the jibe. It was meant in good fun, but had more edge than I intended. Kinda shitty of me, when I think about it.

[Trenzalore]

36. No hard feelings

It made me laugh. That was a great line.