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How can NY not vote for this guy? (Original Post) kcjohn1 Mar 2016 OP
No thanks. This is Clinton country. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #1
Sorry, but You don't speak for NY choie Mar 2016 #2
Neither do you. But all the polls and just living here tells me who is going to win. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #3
It's where the 5% live. Wilms Mar 2016 #4
Feel better? hrmjustin Mar 2016 #6
What? Wilms Mar 2016 #9
First I thought you lived here and second if you did you would know why that doesn't matter. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #11
Wall Street has PLENTY of so-called "Democrats". Wilms Mar 2016 #17
Yes some but the rich only make up a small part of this state. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #21
Understood. Wilms Mar 2016 #28
I voted for Teachout and it said not everyone was sold on Cuomo. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #29
...that 2/3 of the Democrats didn't vote for her? brooklynite Mar 2016 #37
And Bernie has done a lot of that winning, hasn't he. Wilms Mar 2016 #38
So has Clinton... brooklynite Mar 2016 #40
Pfft. You don't speak for New York, these people know one of their own: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #5
He still won't win this borough. Sorry but a block party will not cut it. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #7
You don't speak for New York, you don't get to dismiss those supporters. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #8
I am on the ground campaigning and canvassing as I do throught every year all over Brookkyn hrmjustin Mar 2016 #10
Sure you are. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #12
Being a native doesn't mean anything here and if you knew NY political history you would know that. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #19
It must mean something to those folks and you don't speak for anyone but yourself. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #20
I speak from experience. No doubt you know a lot of your home region based on you political hrmjustin Mar 2016 #23
Again that has NOTHING to do with your dismissal of Bernie supporters in NY. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #24
And who elected you hall monitor? hrmjustin Mar 2016 #25
I'm just calling it like I see it. Other people live in New York too. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #26
Yes as do I and when NY threads come up i will be the realist and tell political reality. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #27
Calling a state "Clinton country" isn't reality, it's entitlement. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #30
Actually I think Sanders did Hillary a favor. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #32
I live in NYC choie Mar 2016 #13
Yes but not many. The demographics don't work for him, hrmjustin Mar 2016 #15
He'll take the hipster community in Williamsburg...and the progressive community on the UWS of Manh brooklynite Mar 2016 #41
You do remember there are whole big sections of New York... DeadLetterOffice Mar 2016 #14
True but there is no evidence to suggest he will overwhelm her in those areas to overcome her hrmjustin Mar 2016 #16
Guess we'll see come Primary Day. n/t DeadLetterOffice Mar 2016 #18
True. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #22
I already have inside information that Brooklyn is not as strong for Clinton as hrmjustin Live Bait Mar 2016 #31
Good to know!!! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #33
Your info on Bay Ridge is wrong. Borough Park will be competitive but not a Sanders landslide. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #34
Looks like a great party. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #35
Probably for the same reason I didn't vote for Reagan... brooklynite Mar 2016 #36
If Sanders gets 40% in NY, he can consider that a moral victory. Tarc Mar 2016 #39
Easy. They just vote for that woman. MineralMan Mar 2016 #42
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
3. Neither do you. But all the polls and just living here tells me who is going to win.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:39 PM
Mar 2016

She will win NYC and the surrounding suburbs big.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
9. What?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:49 PM
Mar 2016

Aren't there piles of the richest people in the country living there? And don't many polls show that she's got a lock on the 5% vote?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
11. First I thought you lived here and second if you did you would know why that doesn't matter.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:54 PM
Mar 2016

Most of the upper crust here are not registered Democrats.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
21. Yes some but the rich only make up a small part of this state.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:05 AM
Mar 2016

We are middle income and poor people for the most part.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
28. Understood.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:18 AM
Mar 2016

What strikes me is Teachout's performance in the state against Cuomo in the primary. What did that say??

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
29. I voted for Teachout and it said not everyone was sold on Cuomo.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:20 AM
Mar 2016

But the turnout of that primary and that of April 19 will be different.

brooklynite

(94,511 posts)
37. ...that 2/3 of the Democrats didn't vote for her?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:35 AM
Mar 2016

You're not running to do better than expected; you're running to win.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
38. And Bernie has done a lot of that winning, hasn't he.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:39 AM
Mar 2016
+ In a typical general election a 60-33 win would pretty good. But for a sitting governor in a party primary it's bad by the standard of recent history. Ahead of the primary FiveThirtyEight looked at party primary races around the nation involving incumbent governors since 2002 -- and Cuomo's percentage of the vote in this primary ranks near the bottom of this list.

It's an especially weak result for Cuomo considering two other factors: 1) Just a few months ago polls indicated very few people knew much of anything about Zephyr Teachout and 2) Cuomo had an enormous money advantage.

http://alloveralbany.com/archive/2014/09/10/clickable-county-by-county-results-for-the-cuomo-t

brooklynite

(94,511 posts)
40. So has Clinton...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:20 AM
Mar 2016

...bottom line: Zephyr Teachout started behind Cuomo...and stayed there.

nb - I'll be happy to support her in NY-19 if she can actually win the Primary; just as I'll be happy to support Sanders. In all honesty, I'd give Teachout better odds of winning in November.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
7. He still won't win this borough. Sorry but a block party will not cut it.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:45 PM
Mar 2016

I appreciate him trying but he will only win the northwest corner of Brooklyn.

The central, eastern, and southern ends of the boroughs will go for Hillary.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
8. You don't speak for New York, you don't get to dismiss those supporters.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:48 PM
Mar 2016

How insulting that you would even try.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
10. I am on the ground campaigning and canvassing as I do throught every year all over Brookkyn
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:52 PM
Mar 2016

and I can tell you where he will win and where he won't.

But hey you got picture so there is that.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
24. Again that has NOTHING to do with your dismissal of Bernie supporters in NY.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:11 AM
Mar 2016

Neither you nor Hillary own Brooklyn, stop acting like it.

Let people post threads about New York without you constantly trying to derail them.

This is the third thread you've tried to ruin.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
30. Calling a state "Clinton country" isn't reality, it's entitlement.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:21 AM
Mar 2016

And that's what bothers Hillary supporters: Bernie got in the way of the coronation.

She's going to have to work for those votes after all.


 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
15. Yes but not many. The demographics don't work for him,
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:58 PM
Mar 2016

He will have to do better with African American and Hispanics.

Sorry but reality is reality.

brooklynite

(94,511 posts)
41. He'll take the hipster community in Williamsburg...and the progressive community on the UWS of Manh
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:24 AM
Mar 2016

He won't take the African American Communities in Harlem, or Crown Hts or Bed-Sty or East New York
He won't take the Jewish communities in South Williamsburg or Sunset Park
He won't take the Asian communities in Queens
He won't take the Russian community in Brighton Beach
He won't take the Hispanic community in Washington Hts

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
14. You do remember there are whole big sections of New York...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:56 PM
Mar 2016

... that AREN'T NYC, right?

Upstate, Finger Lakes, Adirondacks, the North Country, Buffalo, Utica, etc. etc.
Knowing Brooklyn and knowing New York state aren't the same thing. Downstaters seem to forget that, sometimes.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
16. True but there is no evidence to suggest he will overwhelm her in those areas to overcome her
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:00 AM
Mar 2016

Huge advantage in the NYC region,

 

Live Bait

(93 posts)
31. I already have inside information that Brooklyn is not as strong for Clinton as hrmjustin
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:22 AM
Mar 2016

would indicate. He's just hoping.

brooklynite

(94,511 posts)
36. Probably for the same reason I didn't vote for Reagan...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:33 AM
Mar 2016

...that fact that a guy is funny in a movie isn't something I would ever bring into consideration.

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