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Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:24 AM Mar 2016

Biden-Clinton Friction Hangs Over Campaign

http://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-clinton-friction-hangs-over-campaign-1459122420

Democrats worried about Hillary Clinton’s electoral weaknesses see Vice President Joe Biden as a potential solution—as long as the two former cabinet colleagues and sometime rivals can smooth their complicated relationship.

Mrs. Clinton’s vulnerabilities were apparent over the weekend when she suffered lopsided losses to rival Sen. Bernie Sanders in Democratic caucuses in Washington, Hawaii and Alaska. The trio of states contain either many white voters or veer to the left wing of the Democratic Party, two constituencies where Mrs. Clinton has struggled.

..Lots more at the link..
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ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
2. Which Democrats say this?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:31 AM
Mar 2016

Clueless Beltway bubble-dwellers? Biden can't help Hillary with her baggage... he's got enough of his own...much of it the same.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
5. Biden needs to show some honour
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:56 AM
Mar 2016

If the Clintons had wanted in 2008, they coulda torpedoed Obama, but they did their duty to the party. Joe Biden ran for POTUS twice and flopped miserably in the primaries. He's not cut out for POTUS. He's cut out to help the POTUS/future POTUS.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
12. The Clintons could not have torpedoed Obama without destroying
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:27 AM
Mar 2016

Completely Bill Clinton's own place in the party going forward. Had they not backed Obama, there is no way that Hillary would have succeeded in 2012.

As to Biden, he has plenty of honor. What people might consider is that the WSJ is not a likely place that Democrats would whisper secrets to.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
6. Hey viva, the thing is I can't read the article because I'm not a subscriber and don't want to be
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:59 AM
Mar 2016

It's allowed I believe to provide excerpts in the body of separate posts within the thread. If you could please provide a few more excerpts or summarize would be fine too.

Botton line is I don't get the context of the the article heading.

Is this intended to float Biden as alternative to Hillary if she should be indicted or run him as a 3rd candidate before the nomination, provided they smooth out their differences?

Am I'm getting the jist of this right?

If so what would be the point according to the author's logic of smoothing feathers between the two?

Confusing.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
13. I'll give that a try thanks. But I wonder why I'd be able to access via google and not directly?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:52 AM
Mar 2016

Thanks for posting!

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
8. I wonder if the press corp only hangs out at resorts for rich white people ?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:03 AM
Mar 2016

I don't get how they continue to promulgate the same meme without a moment's pause to make the distinction which is obvious to the rest of us. It's maddening.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
10. Ignore this. If this was written in October or November than it would have some cred but - c'mon
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:21 AM
Mar 2016

we are a little more than half way thru the states. Delegates have been awarded.

This is somebody's wet dream & nothing to do with reality.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
14. More from the article
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:08 PM
Mar 2016

The "solution" would appear to be Biden campaigning for Hillary in an attempt to help her with working class whites. It seems to be focused on the general election campaign, presumably because Hillary is still inevitable as the nominee.

<Mr. Biden, who often talks about his upbringing in Scranton, Pa., in a family that endured financial hardships, has shown an affinity with working-class whites that could help overcome doubts about Mrs. Clinton’s candidacy. He appears willing to hit the trail for the potential Democratic ticket.

Looming over the possible collaboration, however, are tensions between two of the nation’s most important Democrats: a sitting vice president and a former secretary of state who might wind up with the job he has long coveted.

In one notable instance, Mr. Biden said in a January television interview that Mrs. Clinton was “relatively new” to the issue of income inequality and that no one doubted Mr. Sanders’s “authenticity” on that issue.

Within minutes, according to people on both sides familiar with the matter, an aide to Mr. Biden got a phone call from Clinton campaign senior adviser Jennifer Palmieri insisting he was “wrong” in his characterization. She asked if he had more interviews scheduled and what else he planned to say. The next day, Mr. Biden went on TV and softened his comments.>

<Earlier this month, Mrs. Clinton played into perceptions among working class white men that she is tone deaf to their struggles when she said at a televised town hall event that under her presidency, coal miners would find themselves “out of business.”

Sen. Joe Manchin, a West Virginia Democrat who has endorsed Mrs. Clinton, said the remark could jeopardize her chances to win his state. He phoned Mrs. Clinton to complain and asked if she was simply writing off West Virginia, a state no Democrat has won since her husband did in 1996. She quickly sent a letter apologizing and saying she had been “mistaken.”

“If anybody can help smooth it over it could be Joe,” Mr. Manchin said in an interview.>

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