2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy do labor unions support Hillary?
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2016/3/27/18454/3777A good read.
"Here are the words of Hillary Clinton, as quoted yesterday in the New York Times, when she spoke to Boeing workers in Everett:
With Mr. Sanderss focus on income inequality and taking on Wall Street, Mrs. Clinton has continued to reach out to working-class voters, including holding a rally on Tuesday at a machinists and aerospace workers union hall at the Boeing factory in Everett, Wash.
I was made an honorary machinist some years ago, so I feel a particular connection here to my brothers and sisters in the machinists, she told the crowd. I am no person new to this struggle. I am not the latest flavor of the month. I have been doing this work day in and day out for years.
She feels "a particular connection" to her "brothers and sisters" in the machinists. She proclaims that she is not the flavor of the month. She's says she has been working hard for the working class for years. A lovely sentiment and a compelling argument, if true. But to me, when you look at her record, the fruit she bears smells of disease and decay:
For example, her persistent efforts promoting the Trans-Pacific Partnership (until she decided to oppose it after declaring her candidacy) does not strike me as good fruit for the working class, especially the union members."
daleanime
(17,796 posts)$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)And usually only when they don't poll the membership.
Arizona Roadrunner
(168 posts)Bernie has pointed out Clinton's statements of support for the companies in India bringing contract H-1b employees to the USA and Michigan. He also should say this is why we need to see what she told Goldman-Sachs for the $675,000. How much support did she give them? After all, Goldman-Sachs probably tax deducted the "expense" and therefore we have standing to ask what did we get for either paying more taxes or getting less services as a result of the deduction.
Also, she is "currently" against TPP. However the US Chamber of Commerce has put out a message to it's membership that after the election, they are sure she will find reasons to be "currently" in favor of TPP
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2016/02/chamber-of-commerce-chief-tom-donohue.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/chamber-of-commerce-
Also, say goodbye to minimum wage increases by State and Local governments. All a corporation will do is declare that a raise in minimum wages will adversely effect their profits. How many State and Local governments can afford such a fight by corporations using the TPP ISDS dispute resolution process designed by and for multi-national corporations? You will now have corporations able to use this dispute resolution process to sue all levels and forms of governments. They can also just threaten to use said process which will "discourage" defenders due to the legal costa etc..Does this sound like giving up governmental sovereignty for corporate profits? Follow the money.....
SamKnause
(13,087 posts)I think the membership should be allowed to vote.
Bernie picks up labor endorsements when the members get to vote.
Are there any statistics on which candidates picks up the most
labor endorsements when voting by the members took place ????
Bernie is running against the establishment.
Some people are pretending they do not know what Bernie means
when he refers to the establishment.
Jackilope
(819 posts)Still befuddled by NEA. At the convention, members spoke up loud and against early endorsements of candidates.
She may have pulled a Sisterhood card, as NEA top three are all women. (Note: I am a woman. Have respect for NEA leadership, though disagree with endorsement.)
I see which candidate has historically marched and fought for hard won and continuing battles. He still marches with us and has been on correct side of labor and people from get go.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)What is it this cycle?
brooklynite
(94,331 posts)All of Sanders' pro-union policies are pointless if he loses in November.
And Unions are, I suspect, politically saavier than some people her.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)"And Unions are, I suspect, politically saavier than some people her."
Do you mean "And Unions are, I suspect, politically saavier than some people here."?
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)It had the organization that was endorsing.
The next column had the person they were endorsing.
And the 3rd column was the METHOD.
Under that it was either "leadership" or "polling members"
In EVERY Hillary endorsement it was the LEADERSHIP.
And in EVERY Bernie endorsement it was from polling the MEMBERS.
And that, again, tells you all you need to know about them.
Bernie speaks to and motivated the people. THEY are who his campaign represents.
Hillary meets with a few leaders at the top to negotiate an endorsement, and THEY are who her campaign represents.
Night and day. It is a clear choice.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)It's the Union LEADERSHIP that has become beholden to the Clinton Campaign ...
I presume some 'Katy Perry' payments were on the table, and what ever loving union boss can pass on some filthy lucre? ...
"Sell out the membership for a dollar? ... sure! .... Where do I sign? "
This top down Democracy seems to produce few good results for regular citizens ... Imagine that ...
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)Partners Anton and Stephen support Bernie
CWA is the Communications Workers of America.
The picture is from Sanders' rally in Seattle's Key Arena.
And the ILWU!
https://www.ilwu.org/senator-bernie-sanders-visits-ilwu/
OCTOBER 20, 2014 11:44 AM
Only a few U.S. Senators have consistently stood with the ILWU and working families against powerful corporate interests, and Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders is one of the best. Never afraid to criticize Wall Street or advocate for unions, Sanders in an independent who calls-out the sell-outs in Washington. In mid-October he came to Richmond, CA to rally citizens against the Chevron Corporations attempt to buy City Council votes with $3 million in campaign cash and replace the progressive, pro-union City Council members with a company-backed slate. The next day he visited with union leaders, including ILWU International President Bob McEllrath and Secretary-Treasurer Willie Adams, before making a speech to hundreds at a nearby church. Some are urging Sanders to run in the Presidential primary against Hillary Clinton who is backed by Wall Street, supports free trade agreements, and other corporate priorities.
Oh, wait that was Sanders being active for people's issues before the campaign got rolling.
Here's more info about Sanders support in Richmond for the people and the pro-union City Council and an article about the outcome there.
http://billmoyers.com/2014/10/30/sanders-richmond-speech/
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Chevron-s-3-million-backfires-in-Richmond-5873779.php
Here's their endorsement:
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/03/25/because-hes-best-candidate-working-families-sanders-nabs-another-union-endorsement
"Bernie Sanders is the best candidate for America's working families," said ILWU International President Robert McEllrath.
"Bernie is best on the issues that matter most to American workers: better trade agreements, support for unions, fair wages, tuition for students and public colleges, Medicare for all, fighting a corrupt campaign finance system, and confronting the power of Wall Street that's making life harder for most Americans," his statement continues.
Underscoring backing of rank-and-file union members, ILWU spokesman Craig Merrilees told the Huffington Post, "The support was significant at the grassroots level," adding, "Many local bodies throughout the union had already recommended endorsements."