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Tad Devine says Bernie chose not to compete... (Original Post) JaneyVee Mar 2016 OP
Tad...still gettin' paid. LexVegas Mar 2016 #1
spam Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #12
They had to use their resources where it most matters. This is a delegate race not a states won race GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #2
Yea but it's only smart when the Clinton campaign does it DFab420 Mar 2016 #5
Then why dump so much into... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #7
He Doesn't have PAC $$$$$$ and Speakers loot to throw around, being honest is expensive . orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #27
Tad Devine is all about the 37 state strategy nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #3
"Let (some of) the people vote!" nt CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #8
Tad Devine is the Mark Penn of 2016. He's more concerned with his consulting fees than the campaign CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #28
That's called pragmatism floriduck Mar 2016 #6
I dont think he put anything about race in there. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #15
No but his Twitter followers did in their comments. nm floriduck Mar 2016 #16
Not sure what the actual source for this is... thesquanderer Mar 2016 #9
smart move Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #10
Which helped give Clinton even more delegates KingFlorez Mar 2016 #11
Too much money spent in SC Gwhittey Mar 2016 #17
I'm sure Sanders supporters such as yourself geek tragedy Mar 2016 #21
Don't all campaigns have to put their resources where they think they will do Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #13
That only applies when you can't get anything out of it. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #23
But he did get something out of all those states. He won delegates in all of them Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #24
That is the point. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #25
I guess I'm confused as to why you were replying to me. I don't think he could or should have spent Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #26
LOL. Keep that money coming. n/t livetohike Mar 2016 #14
for bernie and red states, the demographics is what they care about nt msongs Mar 2016 #18
Weren't Hillary supporters on DU saying exactly that during the run up to Super Tuesday? Karmadillo Mar 2016 #19
Sanders spent a great deal of money in these states and still lost Gothmog Mar 2016 #20
Same as Hillary chose not to compete in Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho, etc... Tarc Mar 2016 #22
I'm surprised Hillary didn't really Try to compete in 3 of the most diverse Kittycat Mar 2016 #29

DFab420

(2,466 posts)
5. Yea but it's only smart when the Clinton campaign does it
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:49 PM
Mar 2016

If Sanders does is it's clearly racism wrapped in sexism with a dash of heteronormativity

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
4. Tad Devine is the Mark Penn of 2016. He's more concerned with his consulting fees than the campaign
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:48 PM
Mar 2016

Otherwise he wouldn't be running it so poorly. I mean, he helped craft and implement the super-delegate system. How did he screw up his candidate's approach to winning them so badly?

Response to CalvinballPro (Reply #4)

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
6. That's called pragmatism
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:49 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie knew the ends wouldn't justify the means. So he focused his means on states he thought he could win in. Contrary to the Twitter posters, there was nothing racial about it. So please don't go there.

thesquanderer

(11,982 posts)
9. Not sure what the actual source for this is...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:50 PM
Mar 2016

...but on seeing all the time and money poured into SC with so little to show for it, it probably made tactical sense to focus resources where they could likely do more good. Though I know he did put some effort into Texas, at least.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
11. Which helped give Clinton even more delegates
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:53 PM
Mar 2016

lol, what a brilliant strategy. So happy that they chose not to compete in those states.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
17. Too much money spent in SC
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:04 PM
Mar 2016

And it was shown that Black voters bought into the lie spread about Sanders being racist etc. So why go to states with large black vote is they have proven to just believe in lies because they don't get news from any other source than TV. I live in SC and I can tell you many other POC down here thought he was a racist and that he kicked BLM protesters off his state, because news media lied. And in SC the young black population is a lot smaller than in north and if look at his numbers there it give a good hint.

Nanjeanne

(4,935 posts)
13. Don't all campaigns have to put their resources where they think they will do
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:59 PM
Mar 2016

the most good?

I keep seeing scenes in movies or tv's West Wing where money is moved from state to state - pulling out of some areas and into others.

Maybe Bernie should have done fundraisers with high rollers so he could compete in every state in exactly the same way.

Nah . . . he's doing great. What I don't get is why Hillary Clinton - with all her money and political machinery - name recognition - wife of a two-term President - Secretary of State - Clinton Foundation - why is she losing states to Sanders - and allowing Sanders to come close in many others. That's a bigger question to me.

LiberalFighter

(50,856 posts)
23. That only applies when you can't get anything out of it.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:39 PM
Mar 2016

Like in the general where it is winner gets all electoral votes in every state except for two.

Nanjeanne

(4,935 posts)
24. But he did get something out of all those states. He won delegates in all of them
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:53 PM
Mar 2016

and he won bigger in states where he put more of his resources.

Nanjeanne

(4,935 posts)
26. I guess I'm confused as to why you were replying to me. I don't think he could or should have spent
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 06:12 PM
Mar 2016

any more time or money there.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
22. Same as Hillary chose not to compete in Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho, etc...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:21 PM
Mar 2016

They pick and choose which states they feel are the most important to winning the nomination. This is all normal.

Once difference is that Sanders dumped piles of cash into North Carolina and Arizona ad buys, all for nothing.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
29. I'm surprised Hillary didn't really Try to compete in 3 of the most diverse
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 06:22 PM
Mar 2016

States in the country. Hawaii, Alaska & Washington.

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