Clinton Strategist: We Won’t Do Any More Debates Unless Bernie Sanders Changes His Tone

[babylonsister]

Condescend much?

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/clinton-strategist-we-wont-do-any-more-debates-unless-bernie-sanders-changes-his-tone/

Clinton Strategist: We Won’t Do Any More Debates Unless Bernie Sanders Changes His Tone

by Alex Griswold | 1:34 pm, March 28th, 2016

VIDEO @ link~

Hillary Clinton chief strategist Joel Benenson said on CNN Monday that they would refuse to schedule any further debates with Bernie Sanders unless his campaign changed its tone.

The Clinton campaign agreed to do four additional debates back in January. But despite their agreement with the Sanders camp, no future Democratic debates were ever scheduled and the candidates are not slated to meet again.

“Bernie Sanders wants a debate here {in New York} before the April primary,” host Kate Bolduan noted. “Are you going to agree to it?”

But Benenson changed the subject: “I think what was notable this weekend wasn’t so much that, but in my mind the Washington Post story with his own campaign talking about how they’re poll-testing more negative attacks on Hillary Clinton.”

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“That doesn’t have anything to do with a debate,” Bolduan insisted again. “Why not debate?”

“The debates have been very good, but Senator Sanders doesn’t get to decide when we debate, particularly when he’s running a very negative campaign against us. Let’s see if he goes back to the kind of tone he said he was going to set early on. If he does that, then we’ll talk about debates, but we’re not going to talk about it” Benenson said.

Watch above, via CNN.

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. All I can say is this will play well with many voters.. NOT

Especially given the headlines this morning

[NWCorona]

13. Exactly!

So my question is. How in the hell is she gonna debate trump then?

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. I am looking forwards to that

I will make sure to have the popcorn ready.

If HRC and her supporters think that Sanders has been mean and should watch his tone, just wait...

[Jackie Wilson Said]

30. You seem eager to watch Trump tear her apart?

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. You think he won't?

Really, those of us who have been watching this in a more objective manner expect Trump to tear her apart. We also know that her campaign has been dirtier and even more coded than the 2008 version. Hey, even antisemitism is now the vogue. I cannot wait for thanksgiving with her son in law, if I could be a fly in the wall. It should be rather entertaininig

[Jackie Wilson Said]

40. So yes, you are eager to see her torn apart by Trump and I assume for Trump to then win?

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. Nah I would prefer to see a stronger candidate

face Trump.

But she is a rather weak front runner. I know that is what the Sanders campaign said today, but I consider her, and have been on record, as saying that the Dems are about to nominate the weakest candidate they have nominated in decades. I was thinking Mondale, somebody went and corrected me and said McGovern.

For the record, just due to the nature of this cycle, I consider Sanders just slightly stronger when all is said and done.

If you bothered understanding Trumpism, you would understand why I am typing this. But I am not enamored with a candidate, you are. And if you believe Sanders has been nasty to her... well, it will be a hoot to watch you guys. I gotta get my entertainment in this tragedy somewhere.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

44. I am the one enamored? I admit it, I am a Bernie voter and I very much like him.

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. Then why are you atttempting to smear?

[Jackie Wilson Said]

47. You will never ever find a single word from me smearing either candidate.

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. Did I say a candidate?

[Jackie Wilson Said]

55. Oh you? No smear, either you are looking forward to her losing or you are not, which is it?

If not, if you tell me how you are voting for her if you have to, I will retract

[nadinbrzezinski]

64. Please proceed governor

I am done wasting my time with you. I said what I said, TRUMP WILL WIPE THE FLOOR WITH HER, and she is a very weak potential nominee. Take whatever you want from that...

[ThePhilosopher04]

54. Why don't you come out of the forest so you can see the trees.

Hillary will be a disaster as the nominee.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

59. Which is one of the reasons I am voting for Bernie. However, what if Bernie loses?

[Svafa]

137. Then Clinton will probably lose in the GE and we'll be stuck with a repuke POTUS.

[TheBlackAdder]

148. Wow! It looks like someone is channeling DONALD TRUMP. Maybe they are still close friends after all!

[noiretextatique]

192. If she is the nominee and he is the nominee

What in the hell do YOU think is going to happen? Ridiculous.

[timmymoff]

177. Seems to me the Hillary campaign

is behaving like Trump's. At least in the aspect of debates. Trump to wails he isn't being treated fair then threatens not to have them, or only on his terms. I am sure I am not the only one who has made this connection.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

179. Another person comparing Hillary to Trump? Or alleging that Trump is a better

debater?

Last time I correctly observed pro Trump attitude I was basically threatened.

There sure are a lot of Bernie supporters here (I am too but I am NOTHING like many of you) who make me very uncomfortable, no wonder certain groups are uncomfortable with so many of you.

[timmymoff]

183. Neither one

Do you have reading perception problems? I said both behaved in the same manner regarding debates. Meaning, for those of us who respond before we read, Trump whined regarding the way he was treated in debates and threatened to stay out, and it seems Hillary's camp is doing the same. All because they aren't happy with their competitor's tone? Who are they to say what tone to set?

[Jackie Wilson Said]

186. No, I read it. Sounds like you are putting the likely Democratic nominee for president and

that slime bucket piece of shit, Donald Trump, on the same level.

Right?

Try and deny that, now.

[timmymoff]

188. Regarding their behavior

towards debates and how they feel entitled to set a tone for another candidate , on their terms. I stand by my statement, but certainly not yours.

[timmymoff]

189. In other words

Your mischaracterization of my stance is not something I stand by, but again the words I typed I will stand by.

[NWCorona]

32. The short term memory syndrome of some is quite funny

Just awhile ago they were saying that if Bernie can't handle Hillary's attacks then he has no business running.

How times have changed.

[nadinbrzezinski]

36. Yup

[litlbilly]

57. I think Bernie can now do a 2 hour town hall in NY before the primary and take all audience

questions. then I bet Hillary will change her mind. Or, maybe she wont

[ljm2002]

75. Good idea...

...I hope he does it.

[Autumn Colors]

103. MODERATED BY JON STEWART!! (nt)

[litlbilly]

109. that would be cool, 20mil viewers garanteed with that

[JimDandy]

147. Stewart will have a grand time with that waspishness: "Don't you have that tone with me!"

What was her campaign thinking? The jokes write themselves. Just imagine if Senator Sanders had said that to her!!! We'd never hear the end of it.

To the jury: that is almost literally what Hillary's camp said.

[litlbilly]

150. I have no idea what they were thinking, just swinging wildly in the dark now it seems

[roguevalley]

70. god. this is so despicable. Poor widdow babies.

[Autumn Colors]

94. Especially the ones in NYC

Because people in NYC will have no respect for the "carpetbagger" senator who's afraid to debate the "native son" of Brooklyn.

These people lived through 9/11 while HRC just invokes it in a lame attempt to explain away her fealty to Wall Street, and now, she's afraid to debate her opponent in NY.

Guess that NY primary doesn't mean so much to her after all .... or they've already got their pieces in place to flip electronic voting machines their way ... disenfranchise select Democrats ... etc.

Gee, which do you think New Yorkers hate more? A liar, a cheat, or a coward?

[nadinbrzezinski]

98. I wonder if she is about to not contest it

and that is not an idle thought.

[Scuba]

2. Fawning mandatory, facts forbidden.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

3. no win here for hillary

yes - she looks bad

no - she looks bad

[berni_mccoy]

4. Hillary Stomping Her Feet:

[Ned_Devine]

27. I want a golden goose now Daddy!

[bettyellen]

5. Poll testing negative attacks? Next he will be using a private plane!

OMG, he is a .....politician. I still like him.

[djean111]

6. Oh, fuck that - new video implying Bernie mistreats his wife - fuck that.

Hillary's tone is now the same gutter shit as Trump's.

[VulgarPoet]

49. Fuck that^2.

Clinton, Wasserman-Schultz, the whole goddamned corruptocratic system deserves no more of my respect. And then she has the undying nerve to have her strategist pose an ultimatum to try and make Sanders bow?

Fuck that.

[Merryland]

76. Well said. n/t

[Ed Suspicious]

7. She's scared! Holy shit!

[NWCorona]

15. Very

[litlbilly]

79. Looks like the Hill team is having a big sadz:(

[grasswire]

84. There might be an audience question she's never heard before. :-)

"That's the FIRST TIME anyone's ever asked me that question!!"

[earthside]

164. She's not even the match for Super Chicken!

[Kip Humphrey]

8. So, Hillary is violating her agreement with Bernie to have 1 debate in April & 1 in May?

[CalvinballPro]

21. They agreed to an April debate. They did not agree it would take place before NY.

I love how not even a single day in April has actually happened yet, and you're all like "Hillary iz violating teh agreement!11"

[Kip Humphrey]

22. What does, "We Won’t Do Any More Debates" mean to you???

[CalvinballPro]

28. Well, first of all, there's more to the sentence than that, so CONTEXT.

Secondly, the Sanders campaign can decide whether or not another debate is worth more than their negative attack ads. The ball is in their court, really.

[Kip Humphrey]

33. Hate to break it to you but Hillary aggreed to 2 more debates without conditions. The ball is in

her court now to demonstrate honor and integrity of her word - THAT is the context.

[CalvinballPro]

38. Where does it say "without conditions?" Neither campaign is bound by rules you made up.

[ljm2002]

80. So you think their agreement...

...had some condition in it like, "We'll have those extra debates you requested, but only if we deem the tone of YOUR campaign to be to our liking!"?

No, you don't seriously believe that, not if you're sane anyway.

[CalvinballPro]

88. That wasn't the question. The question was whether or not the agreement had a "no conditions" clause

And the person originally making the claim was unable to prove it did. Not sure why that made you think you had to tag in, but I suspect that thinking actually doesn't influence a lot of your decisions.

[ljm2002]

123. Well see here's the thing...

...IF the agreement had conditions, then when the Clinton campaign decides not to honor the agreement they will presumably cite those conditions as the basis of their refusal.

Therefore, since the ONLY thing they have mentioned as a reason for not having another debate in April, is his "tone", then one can only surmise that was the condition stipulated.

Of course, no one in their right mind believes there were any conditions at all. So the real reason is, she doesn't think the debate will do her any good, and she doesn't believe she needs to keep her word.

I will grant that so far in this campaign, the Democratic electorate seems to have a very high tolerance for dishonesty -- so she is probably right, it may not hurt her that much to go back on her word.

[CalvinballPro]

127. You can whine about no debate in April after April has passed with no debate. Not before.

[ljm2002]

134. And you can tell me what I can and cannot say...

...all you want, I certainly do not take orders from you!

But I notice you did not address the point I made about conditions. Because you know it is 100% correct and you walked right into it.

[CalvinballPro]

140. Danth's Law.

“If you have to insist that you've won an internet argument, you've probably lost badly.”

[ljm2002]

145. Hey, I notice you still can't refute it. n/t

[morningfog]

191. I can call out Hillary's little tantrum in real time. WAH! Bernie's being a meanie head so I won't

honor my agreement. Lame.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

180. You see a legalistic argument. Everyone else sees a candidate afraid of a debate.

Your college professor might give you an A on the paper, depending on what the meaning of is is, but here in the real world, people make snap judgments when they hear news like this. And that is what holds sway.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

93. There were conditions. The condition was BS agree to the debate HRC wanted.

Not agree to the debate and be nice to her.

With her surrogate spreading the "Bernie snubbed his wife" bullshit, this shit becomes even more laughable.

[CalvinballPro]

100. Sanders wanted more debates, and was not arm-twisted into accepting any.

Try a better argument, maybe, because that whole "BS agree to the debate HRC wanted" is a giant failure.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

135. Truth is a failure? In your book I guess.

Yeah, Sanders wanted more debates. That's why he wasn't going to agree on just the ONE debate HRC wanted.

They had an agreement. Hillary apparently lied so she could get the one debate she wanted.

[Merryland]

82. honor & integrity?

what quaint concepts where Mrs. Clinton is concerned...

[pdsimdars]

87. Dial it back, maybe Engligh is Calvin's second language

[morningfog]

72. Hillary is stamping her foot, a la Trump. Threatening to renege on her agreement.

In fact, she is saying she will not debate unless Sanders grovels or something.

Sad to see her take the Trump route.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

182. He should send her an effing friendship bracelet, along with an RSVP for the debate. nt

[Ash_F]

9. Running out the clock.

The graphs have been trending in only one direction this whole season and they know it.

[Paper Roses]

10. This is one of the many reasons I will not vote for Hillary.

It seems she is 'my way or no way'.

[Gregorian]

11. What'll she say when TYT asks her to debate?

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And we are going to ask.

By WE I meant collective progressive voices.

[SamKnause]

14. I signed the petition.

Do you know how many signatures we have to date ???

[Gregorian]

176. I don't know. Last I heard was 120k approx.

[NWCorona]

17. Do you work for TYT?

I love that show.

[Gregorian]

178. No, but one of the Youtube channels has their ear.

We all got to have input. Youtube is looking like the place where the progressive infrastructure is.

[NWCorona]

184. Ok

Thanks just wondering.

[BernieforPres2016]

35. TYT, do you have the capability to do town halls with Bernie?

Let the audience ask the questions. That's the forum I find to be the most informative. Regular people don't ask all the horse race questions, they ask about real issues.

[geek tragedy]

39. laugh out loud? roll her eyes? nt

[ThePhilosopher04]

12. Clinton running scared. And she wants to lead the "free" world?

[fun n serious]

16. YES!!!

I think my Tweets and others were heard.

[Logical]

18. Lol, she is such a fake! Nt

[Avalux]

19. Change his tone? LOLOL!!!!

The only one exhibiting nastiness is Hillary. But projection is what she does because she can't stand on her own record and positions.

This is hilarious.

[Fairgo]

20. I repeat...

All smoke screen and flying feces aside, if she declines a NY debate, she has no honour. If she refuses to debate at all, her word is without meaning. We are watching.

[ljm2002]

92. I'm not as set on them having the debate in NY...

...because it will be aired so people anywhere can view it. BUT if she does not agree to a debate before the NY primary, well that is low-down in my book after her campaign already agreed to more debates.

I guess she feels she was pressured into it. Never mind that they tried to pressure the Bernie campaign into the NH debate, purely for her advantage, and he wouldn't do it without her promise for more debates.

My momma used to warn me about, as she called them, "One-way sons-of-bitches". Pardon the language -- just quoting her folksy term for a certain sort of person.

[thereismore]

106. She desperately wanted a debate before the NH primary (did not help). Now she is stuck with

the pesky agreement to more debates. She knows she has lost all of them. What's a man (woman in this case) to do?

[Third Doctor]

24. Change his tone?

The Bern is too hot for her?

[CalvinballPro]

25. This just stinks of gamesmanship from the Sanders campaign. They know they're weak and running low

on money, so of course they're going to angle for free airtime. But with polls showing Clinton leading NY 63-28, why would she need to debate Sanders there? To prove something to Sanders supporters who have been conditioned by the Sanders campaign to hate her? Jeebus, this is like a whole new level of naive that Sanders supporters have discovered.

[Pat Riots]

97. they arent weak or running low on money

and what exactly is naive about expecting Hillary to keep a promise?

oh wait.....never mind....

[CalvinballPro]

104. A debate was promised for April. April hasn't even started yet.

Fucking weak tea, Bro.

[noiretextatique]

193. April starts in a few days eom

[ljm2002]

107. No, it stinks of dishonor...

...that a candidate is willing to publicly go back on her word, and presumes she can tell another campaign to watch their "tone".

IF her campaign had not already agreed to two more debates, then yes, she would be free to refuse another debate, based purely on calculations as to whether it is more likely to help her or to hurt her. People like me might not like that, but we also could not accuse her of reneging on anything.

But that is not the case. Her campaign DID ALREADY AGREE to those debates. The May debate is already scheduled. Now she is playing games with the April debate. You just know that she and DWS will try and push it past the NY primary, that is if they end up having it at all. But if they are successful, then... Bawk Bawk Bawk, Chicken Hillary -- that will be the call, far and wide.

[CalvinballPro]

111. Not a single day in April has passed, but you don't seem to get that.

Keep crazy and carry on, I guess.

[ljm2002]

129. And yet her campaign is already floating the idea...

...that there might not be a debate in April.

He would not have answered in that way, if he was not testing the waters.

[CalvinballPro]

133. Doesn't change the fact that it's still March, Bro.

[ljm2002]

136. Oooh, the old "BernieBro" put-down...

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...hard to see how that works, though, since you are addressing a female in her 60s.

[CalvinballPro]

143. Your Bro-hood has more to do with denying reality than your gender.

Maybe acknowledge that complaining about something not happening, before it even actually has a chance to happen, is just flat-out ignorant.

And then stop being ignorant, maybe.

[ljm2002]

149. Sooo, then, are you claiming...

...that Hillary's chief strategist Joel Benenson did NOT say: "Let’s see if he goes back to the kind of tone he said he was going to set early on. If he does that, then we’ll talk about debates, but we’re not going to talk about it." ???

I mean, you are seriously accusing ME of being the one who is denying reality?



TTFN

[tularetom]

157. I guess Hillaryball is a lot like Calvinball, huh?

The rules are whatever she says they are. And they can change from day to day.

[CalvinballPro]

159. Yeah, I'm taking my cue from Bernie Sanders' position on super-delegates.

That's why I'm all over the place with zero consistency.

[sibelian]

171. Oh THAT'S why you're all over the place with zero consistency.

I thought it was just congenital. Are you sure it isn't?

[Dont call me Shirley]

141. .....

[babylonsister]

151. Wow. So you're turning this around on Sanders?

Weak tea, bro.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

167. what an utter crock of shit.

Time for ignore. Crap like this should be posted on other sites.

[Avalon Sparks]

174. Do you have a link for that poll

Thanks

[SamKnause]

187. Bernie's campaign raised 4 million dollars this weekend.

The internet has been a windfall for his campaign.

He has millions of internet warriors.

He has thousands of groups troops.

He is not slowing down.

His supporters are not slowing down.

His supporters will gladly continue to send him money.

His is the greatest candidate this country has seen since JFK.

[Arugula Latte]

26. What a bunch of lying whiners. Bernie has been very polite.

Gawd, the Clinton Camp is just despicable.

[riversedge]

117. You obviously have not listened to his recent stump speeches. Sure he disagrees

with Hillary on many issues--but he goes beyond just saying he has a different opinion. He actively mocks her over and over. That is wrong. That is the 'tone' being addressed by the OP.

[Dont call me Shirley]

144. Bernie does not mock, demean, ridicule, harass or play dirty. No matter how hard one tries to hear

that tone from Bernie, it cannot be heard because it does not exist.

[mhatrw]

158. Show us Sanders "actively mocking" Clinton.

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LOL. Trump will actively mock Clinton, complete with her hideous laugh.

Sanders has never mocked Clinton. He merely states the plain facts about her campaign's financiers and her recent progressive "conversion."

[riversedge]

170. Whatever. I will not argue with sillyness. bye

[JimDandy]

172. I'm curious to hear where his tone was offensive. Link please. n/t

[DisgustipatedinCA]

190. Clinton camp claims that are not documented aren't worth much. Can you link, please?

It's not personal, but I need proof.

[Autumn]

195. No he does not mock her, if he had that video would be posted every hour on the hour

[BernieforPres2016]

29. Who needs another debate?

I'd rather see Bernie go to CNN and say since Hillary won't do a debate, let's do a 2 hour Town Hall in New York 10 days or so before the primary. Give the moderator one segment to ask a few questions and spend the rest of the time taking audience questions.

[daleanime]

41. I like that...

[litlbilly]

67. My thoughts exactly before I read your post. :)

[pdsimdars]

101. I emailed your suggestion to the Sanders campaiagn. Let's see what they do with it.

[ljm2002]

108. Absolutely!

Let her refuse to honor her commitment. Then schedule your own 2 hour Town Hall. That is a GREAT idea! I hope his campaign is reading this.

[BernieforPres2016]

119. The minute CNN announced a 2 hour Town Hall forum for Bernie

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Her campaign would be demanding equal time. CNN could say no, we were only doing 2 hours with Bernie because you wouldn't do the agreed upon debate. But we can change his Town Hall into a debate if you want.

[ljm2002]

131. You mean "a 2 hour Town Hall forum for Bernie"...

...but yes, I do agree with you!

[BernieforPres2016]

163. Thanks. Corrected.

[Vinca]

31. If she's afraid to face Bernie's "tone," how can she possibly be Commander-In-Chief?

[daleanime]

37. And we want a foot rub....

[noamnety]

43. Everyone needs to settle down here.

It's clear she's happy to have the agreed upon debate so long as Bernie promises only to praise her.

[pdsimdars]

114. Nice

[JimDandy]

162. LOL! n/t

[NWCorona]

45. Here's the video

[thereismore]

91. Oooh, real democrats should be focusing on republicans... you wish! She is not the nominee yet!!!

[NWCorona]

96. I don't think Hillary will be the nominee

Especially after recent events.

[thereismore]

99. No, she is on her way out. It will be a spectacularly low-key announcement but it's coming soon.

I think, anyway. If not, she will lose in pledged delegates and bows out at the convention.

[pdsimdars]

115. But we ARE focusing on a Republican. . . but she is running as a Democrat!

[thereismore]

121. Groan. Yes, sadly. nt

[me b zola]

156. Team Clinton has no need for facts

Wish we had a tomato throwing smiley

[Orsino]

48. She'll look into it. n/t

[VulgarPoet]

53. And Bernie needs to cut it out with his tone.

[whatchamacallit]

51. LOL! What fucking losers

[FlatBaroque]

155. Indeed, fucking losers.

Not an collective ounce of integrity

[litlbilly]

52. OMG, if this is true, Hillary just completely blew any chance of the nomination. IMHO of course

[BernieforPres2016]

63. Do you really think any of Hillary's supporters care what she does?

They stand by her no matter what. They don't care if she reneges on the last 2 debates.

[litlbilly]

66. I know, youre right, but what do you think about Bernie and his own town hall in NY?

[Autumn Colors]

112. Oops ... responding to same poster as above :)

[Orsino]

77. That's quite a stretch.

Now, let it begin being said that Clinton is afraid to debate Sanders, and that could be damaging.

[litlbilly]

83. It was Just my opinion, but, them going there cant be even a little good for them.

[casperthegm]

56. Is this for real?

The HRC campaign has their feelings hurt? This, coming from the campaign that doubled down on the auto bailout lie, the Koch Brothers smear, and the "one issue candidate" smear?

Give me a break.

[MisterP]

175. and the "English only" and the race-baiting and the "where was he in '94?" and the podium and ...

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oh, and Minutemen!

[Attorney in Texas]

58. here you go Joel

[B2G]

60. Lol. Her head's gonna explode in the GE. nt

[spin]

90. If she thinks Bernie has a bad tone wait until she has to debate Trump. ...

I wonder if she will even agree to debate him.

[Sky Masterson]

61. I'd use that same Argument when it comes to debating Trump

Not until you're nice Donnie!

[pdsimdars]

62. What do you expect. . . she has to bring him to heel !

[grasswire]

85. snap! nt

[Autumn Colors]

65. Well, if Hillary won't debate him

Bernie should just invite Trump to debate him in NY ...

[ljm2002]

68. I can see the ad now...

...asking, "Why is Hillary Clinton scared to debate Bernie Sanders? What is she afraid of? If she can't face Bernie, how can voters believe she would be ready to face Donald in the general, or Republicans in Congress?"

If she persists in this position, I hope the Sanders campaign pounds her hard on this issue.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

69. Racecar driver says he'll only race if the other drivers promise to stay behind him.

[BernieforPres2016]

74. Football coach says we'll play the second half

As long as the other team agrees to run a quarterback sneak on every play.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

95. Boxer says he'll fight only of the other guy won't try and hit him.

[BernieforPres2016]

71. I am reminded of a Harry Truman quote

<“The debates have been very good, but Senator Sanders doesn’t get to decide when we debate, particularly when he’s running a very negative campaign against us. Let’s see if he goes back to the kind of tone he said he was going to set early on. If he does that, then we’ll talk about debates, but we’re not going to talk about it” Benenson said.>

“I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was hell.”
- Harry S. Truman

[Bluenorthwest]

73. "The Tone Argument" search that phrase on DU and many threads come up and many comments like these:

"What the person making the tone argument is saying is "I find your opinion rude and offensive to my privilege, but have chosen a dodge to silence you." If they can keep moving the goalposts, they know they can wear people down."

"What really stands out to me is the incredible privilege of those who assume that their hurt feelings and irritation should outweigh a discussion of oppression. If they really cared about the issue, they'd focus on the content. They'd understand that it's not about them."

[JonLeibowitz]

89. Fascinating. Are you saying people aren't allowed to have conflicting opinions?

This is America, that is celebrated!

[thereismore]

113. Yep. "Watch your tone" = "I'm a woman and you are sexist." nt

[thereismore]

78. Bwahahahaha this is rich! Bernie, heel! nt

[Cobalt Violet]

81. Then she's obviously too frail and thin skinned to take on trump.

[Jefferson23]

86. lol

They want Bernie to have a Brock tone like hers? I could do that, but Bernie won't.

You look politically weak, Clinton, which is fine by me.

[Faux pas]

102. Lol Bernie is a kiss on

the cheek compared to what trump/cruz/whomever would do to her. In fact, she's sounding as whiny as trump.

[dr60omg]

105. She said: "heel."

Yes, you must change your tone and bow for my coronation ... the tone? Really?

[BernieforPres2016]

110. Hartmann just now on this Hillary strategist Benenson

As he was looking at a profile on him: "Joel represents Bank of America and J.P. Morgan Chase and McDonald's and Pfizer and Wal-Mart."

No wonder Benenson doesn't like Bernie's tone. Bernie pounds on the Walton family to get off welfare in just about every stump speech. I find it a little disappointing that Bernie doesn't mention that Hillary did 6 years on the Board of Directors of Wal-Mart.

[thereismore]

118. Of course of course! He is a crooked snake this one. nt

[pdsimdars]

126. And that's the good part of Hartmann's point BUT

the other part of the point he was making was that they were giving her bad advice.

To my thinking, that high lights her JUDGEMENT. She CHOSE those people to work for her. THAT is the kind of people she wanted advice from.

[BernieforPres2016]

165. Hartmann can't bring himself to say this is who Hillary is

He keeps pretending that people are just giving her bad advice, that she will move to the left, listen to Bernie's movement and be a good President. I suspect he would be more candid over a beer in private, but I try to just accept this with him.

[NowSam]

116. Sounds like they are running scared.

but I've learned that if you don't like Hillary's position on something just wait twenty minutes.

[MuseRider]

120. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

THIS is hysterical. I am sure this attitude will help her lots with those who were on the fence or those who might grudgingly vote for her if she is the nominee. So if Sanders doesn't get to decide (last I heard he was asking not telling) when the debate is going to be who does? Hillary? Who the hell are you to decide Hillary. You are just a nominee like he is.

If she is caving under the stress of this "very negative" campaign what on earth will she do with the Republicans? Threaten to turn them over her knee? Tell them to cut it out? Send them to their rooms? <---this is what she sounds like. My god.

It is a very sad state of affairs when you can't own your own decisions and take the fall out from them as anything but negative campaigning. Ha Ha Ha, this is really who people want to run the country?

This just cracks me up.

[Buns_of_Fire]

122. BAD Bernie! BAD Bernie!

Look at this mess! You tore the coronation robe, you knocked the crown off the table and dislodged one of the diamonds, and you pooped on my agenda! BAD Bernie! Now you just go over there and sit in that corner and let us Pragmatic Adults clean this up! (And you were SO well-behaved when Debbie first brought you home, too.)

[MuseRider]

124. Well that was worth spitting my lunch.

Well said. Really funny.

I married into a family who had some members like this. They did not take it well when I laughed when they were damned serious. I should this or that because I should KNOW who they are. I love this attitude from Hillary, it is exactly what you just said. They do not take well to be held accountable or to those who would laugh at their pretentions.

[Eleanors38]

128. Does she want more bass tone or treble? Persnickety.

[VulgarPoet]

138. You owe me a new cup of tea.

The first one is currently residing on my monitor and keyboard.

[felix_numinous]

125. The FBI investigations are taking a toll,

and getting in the way of campaigning, which is the very reason all of this would distract from being president.

[Dont call me Shirley]

130. Change your tone Bernie....

[pdsimdars]

132. Another photo of Benenson expressing Hillary's thoughts on this

[dana_b]

139. wow.. imagine if Bernie's campaign said that to her

"change your tone, Hillary"

"Sexist!! Sexist!!!"

But if Hillary's camp says that it's fine?

[JimDandy]

142. OMG after Hillary just went full negative on his family! Not ISSUES, but his wife.

[bkkyosemite]

146. Bull Shit LIES

[EndElectoral]

152. Just laughable

[mhatrw]

153. Sanders needs to make his tone more tony to match Clinton's contributors. nt

[Broward]

154. If Hillary doesn't keep her word, he should not endorse her

if she wins the nomination.

[Politicalboi]

160. Screw them

When they stop suppressing our votes maybe we'll see the numbers change. Bernie should debate Trump. Pivot to the GE. And the negatives are ALL Hillary's fault. She's the one going behind our backs ALL the time. Going behind Obama's back too. She was pretending to be president while SOS. Fuck that.

[ucrdem]

161. #feelthebern.

Works both ways I guess.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

166. Hillary Clinton is a national embarrassment. Never, ever, Hillary. Got it?

[restorefreedom]

169. wow. a weak candidate will be an even weaker president

is this what she had in mind instead?

[MisterP]

173. aren't these the bozos that squeal "tone policing" whenever someone objects to lying

that Sanders is a racist sexist whatever?

Christ, it's like Melissa Click decided to stop fighting Mizzou and join the campaign instead

[Manifestor_of_Light]

181. WTF?

"Change your tone" sounds like a bullshit excuse to me.

Does that mean, "Don't point fingers at me and start talking about all my speeches I made to Wall Street"?

[blueintelligentsia]

185. Wow...I'm disappointed in the HRC campaign n/t

[jfern]

194. Classic Clintonian, we're too scared to debate

Hmm, let's change it to be an attack on Bernie.

[blueintelligentsia]

196. #tonedownforwhat........n/t

[coyote]

197. I don't blame her

She got her ass handed to her when Bernie got a standing ovation in the last debate.

[B Calm]

198. But, it's okay if the Hillary campaign throws mud at Bernie. .