The easy way to identify a Sanders state: Snow, Mountains, and Wilderness

[Renew Deal]

And the more of all three, the better he does.

Here are his best states in order with their characteristics

86% Vermont (Snow, Mountain, Wilderness)
81% Alaska (Snow, Mountain, Wilderness)
79% Utah (Snow, Mountain, Wilderness)
78% Idaho (Snow, Mountain, Wilderness)
72% Washington (Snow, Mountain)
69% Hawaii (Mountain, Wilderness)
67% Kansas (Wilderness)
64% Maine (Snow, Mountain)
61% Minnesota (Snow, Wilderness)
60% NH (Snow, Mountain)
59% Colorado (Snow, Mountain)
57% Nebraska (Wilderness)
52% Oklahoma (Wilderness)
50% Michigan (Snow)

So if you want to find a Sanders state, look for a frozen place where very few people live. If it's got a mountain too, it's a lock. He's nowhere to be found in places that a lot of people live and where the weather is warm.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

1. NY has snow and mountains nt

[Renew Deal]

3. But it's heavily populated

[NWCorona]

8. What's the population cut off you are using?

[jeff47]

30. Only a couple parts of it are. Lots of NY is lightly populated.

Turns out the entire state isn't New York City.

[George II]

137. Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Utica, Albany, Binghamton, Putnam/Westchester Counties...

....New York City.

[jeff47]

138. And a whole lot of land in-between those.

Northern New York is also not densely-populated.

[HERVEPA]

34. Ever hear of the Adirondack Wilderness?

[In_The_Wind]

136. Yes, it's beautiful.

[Retrograde]

40. But mostly at the ends

there's a lot of not a lot between Erie County and the Hudson Valley - and the Adirondecks could qualify as wilderness! More so than Kansas, anyway.

[DanTex]

2. Pretty much sums it up. Hillary does best in states with lots of humans in them.

[lumberjack_jeff]

22. Much like the bubonic plague. n/t

[shadowandblossom]

102. I'm a supporter but

[Jackie Wilson Said]

105. Disgusting comment.

[lumberjack_jeff]

125. Out of this whole thread, you picked this post to take seriously? nt

[beam me up scottie]

4. I see what you did there, nice try.

Mahalo, RD!

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Yup Hawaii is very much fitting that description

do you realize just how racist this is sounding? I would consider self deleting, but I do not expect you to understand why you should

[Renew Deal]

14. Please explain

I can't wait to hear it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Don;t have to

your post is one reason for #iamsowhite hashtag on twitter, People are tired of this divisive shit

[Renew Deal]

25. OK

[Svafa]

28. #berniemademewhite

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. It is funny

There are a few

[Svafa]

33. I think it's great.

As a female Sanders supporter, I am sick to death (and frankly offended) by the "Bernie Bro" meme, so I can only imagine how non-white Sanders supporters feel about the meme that he only appeals to white people. It's great to see POC who support Sanders standing up and trying to shut down the narrative that we Sanders supporters are all a bunch of young white men. It's a meme that is really demeaning to the thousands of us who aren't.

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. Hey people here have questioned my Identity and I do not openly support any candidate

this will depress that vote in November, but they are tone deaf

[dr60omg]

103. Exactly

Exactly! Thank you

[angrychair]

78. As I already stated in a separate post here

Hawaii is a majority minority state. In fact it has the largest percentage of its citizens classified as minorities than any other state in the country. It is also the only state that whites have never been a majority.

[Renew Deal]

80. Ok. What does that have to do with cold, rural, and moutainous states?

[angrychair]

117. Everything

So you are saying states like mine, Washington, are a cold, rural, mountainous state? Rural meaning small and simple and mostly white.
The obvious point of my post was that this it not the case. Especially in the case of Washington but in almost all the states you mentioned. Conversely, at least one of the descriptions you used could be applied to states like Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama and so on.

[Retrograde]

42. I've been snowed on in Hawai'i

The tops of the higher mountains do get snow rather regularly. I don't think of Hawai'i as having much wilderness, though.

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. FACEPALM

that lack of self awareness...

[shadowandblossom]

82. hmmm

Hawaii may disprove the theory...

[shadowandblossom]

69. there's nothing about race in this post

If Hawaii is more of a heavily populated, then OP got one wrong, but isn't it famous for it's beautiful and scenic landscape? It doesn't seem like it would be urban. Sanders seems to do really well in more rural states. I thought the post was cute and not sure you know what racist means.

I've been to NE and it's all fields, and cows, and cornfields. Look at Vermont on google earth its gorgeous and more full of trees than people. Lovely. Look at Alaska, pure wilderness, Kansas, and probably everything else on OP's list, broad open spaces, or places with wilderness. He does well in rural areas.

[nadinbrzezinski]

70. Well

[shadowandblossom]

75. Meow.

[kaleckim]

6. At this point in time

Hillary's lead is thanks in large part to a part of the country that still flies the Confederate flag. So, if you want to spot a part of the country that, to this point, supports Clinton overwhelmingly and has given her her current lead, it's likely to be in places where blacks and whites couldn't share a bathroom or a movie 60 years ago.

[lastone]

106. ^^^ Ding ding - we have a winner!

perfect retort to such nonsense.

And retrograde - no offense here at all but I spent 15 years in the great Aloha state and the wilderness there is wild! You should check it out - off the tourist paths and into the bush!

Mahalo to Hawaii for feeling the BERN - let's get Tulsi the vp slot!

[cosmicone]

7. Also needs a lack of diversity and abundance of affluence

with no economic suffering during the republican recessions.

[kaleckim]

13. Most definately

Cause when I think of someone whose policies have benefited the poor and working people, I think of Hillary Clinton. That is why she supports the trade model she does, and that is why Wall Street and corporations have given her massive amounts of money, continue to raise money on her behalf, and that is why she continues to have fundraising get togethers with corporate and financial lobbyists. Those groups giving her money expect nothing in return, they just want to make the country a better place, LOL!

Yes, the person arguing that universal health care is a pipe dream fights for those suffering economically. Cause the cost of health care has not outpaced wage growth, even with the ACA. A person backing that trade model too, and "school choice", and austerity, can talk about caring about the poor more than the democratic socialist she's running against. That is why she and her husband gutted social programs that benefited the poor and bragged about it, that is why they deregulated financial capital (which has since decimated the poor, especially people of color, doubly since the 2008 crash) and said that anyone criticizing them at the time were in favor of outdated policies and needed to enter into the 21st century. That is why they fought hard to create the WTO, cause they care oh so much about the poor, working people.

It's kind of funny to read comments from people like yourself, cause the Wall Street and corporate elites she is meeting with, give her and her family all that money, they don't take her populist talk seriously. Neither should anyone else on the left.

[kaleckim]

39. LOL!

I just joined DU, what that has to do with anything is beyond me. Why bother posting if you're saying nothing? Have not come across a single Clinton supporter that can have an actual conversation about her, her record, her top donors, her hawkish foreign policy, without making it personal. Not one.

Give it shot. Respond with something of substance, you high post wizard.

[Buddyblazon]

55. Welcome to DU!

I've got 12 years here and I'll welcome you!

Don't worry about cosmicone. He's skating on thin ice. If you have more problems with him as several of us have (there is a small army of us) I ask that you write a quick email to the mods that run this site.

In the meantime, we're not all assholes. I promise your stay will be, at the very least, entertaining.

[TheFarS1de]

133. Apparently you get a medal ...

For being a more prolific poster ... Ignore people who do that , if they can't discuss the issues then they only make themselves more foolish .

Welcome to the nuthouse

[mac56]

51. When you can't attack the message, attack the messenger.

[cosmicone]

52. Where was the attack in my post? n/t

[mac56]

54. "Thanks for your comment, low post count person."

Marginalizing the poster for the heinous crime of "few posts."

[kaleckim]

131. Post counts

I feel bad for the people on this site that have had to endure your posts for however long you have been here. It seems that Clinton supporters don't have a full appreciation for how much the country has changed, especially people in their party. The days where you could mock the left and have no consequences are over. I hope you realize, given that your candidate is the likely nominee, that you do in fact need the people you are alienating with your behavior. You need a large percentage of Sanders supporters to support Clinton, or she's toast. She is already, in many ways, on thin ice. We'll see where the investigations take us. Her poll numbers are already a disaster, if she were running against anyone but Trump she'd been in deep trouble. Given that she is the likely nominee, you do have a responsibility to your candidate to put some thought into how you communicate with people. Alienating most everyone that isn't in the tribe is a sure fire way of harming her chances.

You also don't seem to appreciate how much independents and the general public has changed. There has been a sharp turn to the left in the last decade or so, and that is in large part because of the impact of the policies your candidate and those to her right have supported. You're out of your mind if you think you can win this election, and especially elections in the future, by always appealing to "moderates". Our system is corrupt, inequitable and leading us to ecological collapse. Moderates, by their nature, don't want to fundamentally change the system. You and your candidate keep going with that mindset and Bernie Sanders will be peanuts to what you'll face in a decade if the system isn't radically changed.

[Svafa]

27. Yeah, it's not like Hawaii is the most diverse state in the country or anything.

And Michigan sure is affluent and has had no economic suffering during the Republican recessions.

[jeff47]

31. Alaska is the most diverse state in the country, according to the census.

And Hawaii is about 75% non-white.

But please, continue to deploy the melanin scanners.

[Ned_Devine]

9. The easy way to spot an HRC supporter on DU

Look for crass, baseless attacks and arguments with no substance.

[Marr]

113. If it's basically a crowbar in the form of a post, it's an HRC supporter.

I've never seen a campaign so constantly focused on dividing their own base.

[B2G]

10. So I guess Clinton takes the racist, high crime states, huh?

Two can play this game.

[lumberjack_jeff]

11. Not quite right. Hillary does well in states with lots of poisonous snakes. n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

20. And, preachers who handle them.

[Aerows]

62. DUzy!

And I say that despite the fact that I live in one of those states!

[lmbradford]

12. Nope

Im looking across about 10 miles of flat land here in Oklahoma. No mountains....none. Just red dirt and cities.

[Renew Deal]

18. = Wilderness

[Tarc]

15. Like we say in the general election, when the GOP trots out the big red map with spots of blue;

"Dirt doesn't vote".

[shadowandblossom]

98. No, but I do.

and I'm not dirt.

[Jitter65]

16. And maybe this too.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/03/28/marijuana-bust-halts-easter-egg-hunt/82334064/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories

[Bread and Circus]

17. Michigan has a ton of wilderness.

[Renew Deal]

19. I know

There is some crossover in these places, but a lot of people live there.

[ThePhilosopher04]

21. You forgot large population of smart people

[Buddyblazon]

23. Colorado DUer here...

We get it...Clinton and her supporters don't like us and yet still want our support. Sorry...insulting me and fellow Coloradans is no way to get our votes.

[Renew Deal]

26. How is this insulting?

[Buddyblazon]

49. Since you're feigning ignorance....

"So if you want to find a Sanders state, look for a frozen place where very few people live. If it's got a mountain too, it's a lock. He's nowhere to be found in places that a lot of people live and where the weather is warm."

We get it. You are dismissive of my state and its inhabitants (while simultaneously showing your ignorance of our state and population).

We get it. You think we're dumb.

We get it. You think we are uneducated.

We get it. You want our votes...you just don't want to be polite or respectful to us.

[Buddyblazon]

53. The funny thing is that I've been voting blue...

here for 25 years to turn this state to solidly blue. And the DNC and its cohorts think I'm dumb.

Well fuck you people. I gave you my vote, my canvassing, my phone banking, my donations for 25 years...and this state will be blue going forward.

But to minimize me and my fellow Coloradans after the gift we've given you out west...you all DNC holier than thous can go take a flying leap.

[yardwork]

50. Why do you blame this post on Hillary?

Just curious.

[dogman]

32. She couldn't even take her birth state by 70%.

And they had to repress voting to win by a small margin there. But bigotry is so becoming of her supporters.

[shadowandblossom]

79. again with the bigotry comments

being touched with a feather would be lighter than this post. It's cutesy.

[shadowandblossom]

83. joking about snowy, mountain ranges, and more rural areas with wilderness being determinative of

voting patterns isn't bigotry.

[dogman]

92. No, painting rural areas as irrelevant is.

I'm sure if I made an urban joke, it wouldn't fly too well. Maybe I'm just touchy after a whole weekend of the media harping on the whiteness of states Bernie has won. Once they were challenged by the facts, it became non-black voters. Maybe we need a joke forum.

[shadowandblossom]

97. that seems like a stretch to me.

This post would not offend my own grandmother, who lives in one of those states. I'm in a rural area myself (hot though... so we'll see what happens.)

I'm not trying to be offensive when I tell you that about my grandma, I actually do mean what I'm saying. Maybe, but Gd-p is a fine place to put it in my opinion. It's hard not to get too reactive in this environment period.

[angrychair]

35. So, now it's shit on states that voted for Sanders

Day? We are all rural mountain people with ice cubes for brains?

Washington is the 13th largest state. Minnesota is the 20th. (So is there a number that makes it "big enough" to count?)

According to Forbes article, for 2015, Minnesota and Utah were the fastest growing tech states.
Washington is home to the biggest and most profitable tech companies on the planet. (So, still not "smart" enough to count?)

Hawaii is the state with the largest minority population, per capita and the only state in which whites have never been a majority. 75% of voters in the their caucus were non-white. (Sorry, do Pacific Islanders not count??)

[TheBlackAdder]

81. With nothing left, I guess they're back to the feces throwing stage of discourse.

[ucrdem]

36. LOL

I could add a few personal descriptors . . .

[jillan]

37. As opposed to "The Real America"? Where have I heard this before?? Hmmmmm......

According to Sarah Palin, she and John McCain "believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hardworking, very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation."

Are you sure you want to go there?

[Blue_In_AK]

44. Jealous?

I think snow, mountains and wilderness are fantastic.

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. If Sanders takes California

We will become a rural and white state too

By the way I agree. We have some fantastic wilderness here too

[Blue_In_AK]

46. I know. :)

I love California. I lived there for six years right before moving up here in '75. If I had to live anywhere besides Alaska (and I hope that never happens), I'd be in Washington, Oregon or California. Jim Morrison was right, "The west is the best."

[suffragette]

60. Yep, left coast is really buggin' some

folks.

Here's to the blue water, blue glaciers, blue skies and blue votes we have!

[zappaman]

66. He just might so best of luck to your candidate!

[shadowandblossom]

86. They're lovely

I'm from a rural area and live in a rural area. It's hot here though, so Sanders might encounter trouble here according to the poster's theory. We'll find out if it holds.

[Renew Deal]

91. me too

[Blue_In_AK]

96. By the way,

I took no offense at your post. It IS kind of amusing, and I suspect your tongue was firmly in your cheek.

I think it's kind of cool that Alaska had almost as high a percentage of Bernie voters as Vermont. I knew he'd take it here, just never expected by quite so much. The caucus was more like a Sanders rally.

[Renew Deal]

100. Thanks

I definitely wasn't thinking about race. And if I was being serious I would have said cold and sparsely populated which is far more defensible. But there are people pushing the race issue on both sides so I understand why people are sensitive about it.

[Vattel]

47. Kansas, Nebraska, and Oklahoma have no wilderness. They are rural states.

California has tons of wilderness and mountains and snow too. So I hope you are right.

[Art_from_Ark]

87. Actually, Oklahoma has wilderness

Official wilderness areas include the Upper Kiamichi River Wilderness in LeFlore County, the Black Fork Mountain Wilderness Area and the Charon Gardens Wilderness Area.

[Vattel]

108. I guess you could call that wilderness.

[Art_from_Ark]

111. It's easy to lose one's way in the Oklahoma Ouachitas

in heavily forested roadless areas with rugged terrain.

[Vattel]

122. I just looked at some photos. It looks cool. Thx for the tip

[Art_from_Ark]

124. Here's a topographic map of a section of the Ouachita Trail

[noiretextatique]

48. California has snow and mountains eom

[Manifestor_of_Light]

56. Texas has all three.

We got snow in Amarillo and Lubbock to the north, in the Davis Mountains to the west, a lot of different kinds of wilderness in a lot of places. We also have a lot of people and also the weather is warm.

The state is about 800 miles from east to west and 800 miles from north to south.

It's not red state versus blue state, it's urban versus rural.

Texas has urban liberal areas and rural conservative areas.

[Garrett78]

57. As a general rule, Clinton does better in the most populous states.

Washington is an exception, but exceptions are what prove the rule. Clinton does better in large urban areas. Large urban areas translate to more people. Simple as that.

One can expect Clinton to do better in NY, PA, MD, CA, NJ and the like. One can expect Sanders to do better in MT, SD, ND, WY and the like.

This is why I feel fairly confident that Clinton will end up with about 2200 pledged delegates (give or take 100) and Sanders will end up with about 1800 pledged delegates (give or take 100).

[Attorney in Texas]

58. Identify Sanders states by Hillary's accent; if she's not using her Southern accent, it's a Sanders

state.

[awake]

59. the way to know if it a state will vote for Hillary

If it is in the south and voters go for republican in the General Election then Hillary won it. So the first question one should ask is is the state a Red or Blue state? If it is solid Red there is a good chance Hillary will or has won it. Come this fall how many of those "Hillary States" will she win not many if any.

[Renew Deal]

61. Like Oklahoma, Kansas, Utah, and Idaho?

Your claim doesn't hold up.

[awake]

118. Ya Oklahoma was any exception and the other 3 are not in the south

[Garrett78]

123. See post #63

The blue state-Sanders, red state-Clinton dichotomy that you and others promote isn't accurate. In fact, the reverse is closer to the truth.

[Garrett78]

63. The meme that won't die.

Consider the list of 24 states that Romney carried in 2012, and his approximate margin of victory in each:


1) Utah: 48 points
2) Wyoming: 41 points
3) Oklahoma: 34 points
4) Idaho: 32 points
5) West Virginia: 27 points
6) Arkansas: 24 points
7) Nebraska: 23 points
8) Kentucky: 22 points (22.7)
9) Alabama: 22 points (22.3)
10) Kansas: 22 points (22.2)
11) Tennessee: 20 points (20.5)
12) North Dakota: 20 points (19.8)
13) South Dakota: 18 points
14) Louisiana: 17 points
15) Texas: 16 points
16) Alaska: 14 points (14.0)
17) Montana: 14 points (13.5)
18) Mississippi: 12 points
19) South Carolina: 11 points (10.6)
20) Indiana: 11 points (10.5)
21) Arizona: 10 points (10.1)
22) Missouri: 10 points (9.6)
23) Georgia: 8 points
24) North Carolina: 2 points

[Armstead]

64. I guess you've never been to Washington state

[amborin]

65. only someone who's never traveled through those states would articulate this falsehood

[shadowandblossom]

88. Falsehood, light-hearted joke

Yeah, it's one of those things...

[Buns_of_Fire]

67. Holy cow! We're all Grizzly Adams!

And bears don't even eat our hands. We are also a friend to all children. Just like Gamera.

[Renew Deal]

68. lol

[Kittycat]

71. MO, Mass, IA, IL

State/Delegate/%vote
MO / 34-34 / 49.6 - 49.4%
Mass/ 46-45 / 50.1 - 48.7%
IA / 23-21 flat / 49.9-49.6%
IL / 76-73 / 50.5 - 48.7%

[Warren DeMontague]

73. you left out legal weed.

Well, gee, better hope 34 Million Californians don't vote for that one, huh.

[Renew Deal]

90. They voted against it the first time around.

[Warren DeMontague]

120. Yeah, for several reasons, not the least of which was that most of the growers opposed it.

(I'm gonna go out on a limb here and speculate that you're not on the West Coast, yourself.)

Oregon voted against a bad initiative in 2010, also, and then voted for the far better written Measure 91 in 2014.

but don't fret. Maybe you'll get lucky and pot prohibition will continue in California. Yay!

[betsuni]

74. Birds, don't forget about the birds.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

76. As a resident of a metropolitan area with over three million people

I was surprised to learn that where I live is actually a snowy, mountainous wilderness. But it must be because Bernie kicked Hillary's ass. Still, since it's a snowy, mountainous wilderness where hardly any people live, I guess it doesn't count. My three million neighbors must be an illusion or something.

[Bluenorthwest]

77. NY and CA have all three.

nt

[shadowandblossom]

84. The responses to your cute little post are amazing.

I'm seeing people talking about how your post is "throwing feces," insulting, "bigotry," and "racist." I'm in awe. People are saying you, an individual poster on DU, are the DNC and that you, an individual poster on DU, are therefore disrespecting their vote and insulting their state's voters...

This is all amazing because all that has actually happened is that you made a cute little joke that wouldn't so much as offend my grandmother... I'm going to rec it just for that...

[shadowandblossom]

85. who knew the weather and landscape would be so controversial!

This is making me feel old.

[Renew Deal]

89. It's fairly typical of the behavior of some people these days

There was a big article yesterday about how it is affecting the campaign.

[shadowandblossom]

94. do you have a link?

I know it's bad out here and I get sucked in myself... but this level of sensitivity, is just, wow!, amazing, when you step back and look at it. I thought it was worth commenting on. I liked your post, it was funny btw.

[Renew Deal]

104. Here you go

Thanks

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=83947

[smiley]

93. You can find Hillary states by how red they are.

[Renew Deal]

95. Like Utah, Idaho, Kansas, and Oklahoma?

[smiley]

109. I know!

Isn't it great that Bernie is capable of winning both blue and red states!
Go Bernie!

[Garrett78]

110. See post #63

You and others have taken reality and flipped it on its head. It's Sanders who is thriving in the 'reddest' states.

[smiley]

112. Fine by me....

Just proves how strong of a candidate he is.

[Garrett78]

114. So, let me get this straight...

...first you claim that Clinton's success is correlated with how red a state is. Then, when it's pointed out to you that that isn't true, you decide the falsity of your initial claim "just proves how strong of a candidate" Sanders is.

Mmmkay.

[smiley]

115. You're the one who made the claim "Sanders is crushing it in red state"

I don't agree with that statement, but if that's the reality you live in, then it''s fine by me because it would show the strength of Bernie's candidacy. Sorry if I confused you. I hate when I confuse Hillary supporters. I feel horrible inside.

So you tell me. Who's doing better in the red states. Bernie or Hillary? My reality says Hillary. She pretty much took the entire south. If Bernie is "crushing it in red state", like your reality claims, then why didn't he do better in the south?

[Garrett78]

119. Did you look at post #63?

I'm not a Clinton supporter, but I do appreciate acknowledging reality. Again, read post #63 of this thread. And then get back to me.

[smiley]

129. That's a list of Romney's numbers from 2008...

I'm not sure why you think that proves a point, let alone your point, because all of those states are red and the majority won by Hillary.

But in your reality that means Bernie is crushing it in red states?

Mmmmkay.

shrug:

[Garrett78]

132. The level of 'redness' is determined by the Republican candidate's margin of victory.

So, let's look again at Romney's margin of victory in each of the 24 states he carried in 2012, the most recent presidential election:

1) Utah: 48 points
2) Wyoming: 41 points
3) Oklahoma: 34 points
4) Idaho: 32 points
5) West Virginia: 27 points
6) Arkansas: 24 points
7) Nebraska: 23 points
8) Kentucky: 22 points (22.7)
9) Alabama: 22 points (22.3)
10) Kansas: 22 points (22.2)
11) Tennessee: 20 points (20.5)
12) North Dakota: 20 points (19.8)
13) South Dakota: 18 points
14) Louisiana: 17 points
15) Texas: 16 points
16) Alaska: 14 points (14.0)
17) Montana: 14 points (13.5)
18) Mississippi: 12 points
19) South Carolina: 11 points (10.6)
20) Indiana: 11 points (10.5)
21) Arizona: 10 points (10.1)
22) Missouri: 10 points (9.6)
23) Georgia: 8 points
24) North Carolina: 2 points


Those states are listed from 'reddest' to least 'red'. Which candidate, Sanders or Clinton, is having the most success in the 'reddest' of the 'red' states? Sanders by a long shot. Once he wins Wyoming, he will have claimed victory in each of the 4 'reddest' states in the US. Most of the Deep South states are in the bottom half of the list. Furthermore, Sanders is having more success within the 'red' areas of various states (i.e., the rural and suburban areas, as opposed to the urban areas where Clinton does best).

I don't know how much clearer it can be that the Clinton-red state meme promoters have taken reality and flipped it on its head.

[Enrique]

101. this needs a book-length treatment

you could be the next David Brooks. Especially the part about Kansas having a lot of wilderness.

[dr60omg]

107. #Berniemademewhite that is how you tell a Sanders state

#Berniemademewhite you know like I went to get a burrito and came out with a turkey wrap (that was my favorite one) because #berniemademewhite

How do you identify a Sanders state? Yes, because Hawaii is so frigging cold and Alaska has no diversity ....

You can also identify a Clinton state very easily: 1. If the people believe a fake accent. Particularly a fake southern accent. Which is why she won't debate Bernie from Brooklyn she can't seem to get the accent correctly. 2. If your state is Republican and in the south. 3. If your state suffers from election irregularities as in Nevada and Arizona. 4. If you tend to suffer from a case of historic amnesia

[blueintelligentsia]

116. Bernie Sanders Just Trounced Hillary Clinton in Three of the Ten Most Diverse States in America

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511596392

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

121. I'd respond more fully but I have to repair my igloo here in freezing Washington.

Where it will be 66 and sunny tomorrow during the blizzard.

[Else You Are Mad]

126. I am sorry...

But, here is a map of the Appalachian mountains. Notice how a lot of those states have mountains and voted for Hillary?

[Renew Deal]

127. Yes, and Hawaii gets snow

[Else You Are Mad]

128. Except...

Hawaii is mostly Tropical & The Appalachian mountains runs down to Alabama. Also, don't forget that the Ozarks, an ancient plateau and dome, reach into Arkansas. The Clintons home state...

[oldandhappy]

130. and incredible beauty!

[Omaha Steve]

134. I'm in Sarpy County, NE

Bernie and Obama (08-12) took our county and we have none of your description.

Here I am on local tv March 5th with no snow. I was on CNN too.

[In_The_Wind]

135. New York has all 3.

[marmar]

139. Few people live in Michigan, the 9th largest state by population?

If this is an attempt at humor, it bombed miserably. Or if it's just a stupid, fact-free post, it's a smashing success.

[LWolf]

140. I love snow, mountains, and wilderness.

That part is true. At least for me.

I'm happy to leave the heat, the humidity, the bugs and the over-crowding, to those who like it that way.

I'll be sure to vote Sanders, though, so that all of us, those in the snow and mountains, and the rest, can get social and economic justice.

Of course, I know you know that Hawaii, at 69%, is plenty warm.