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"Anything (well known personality) says is shit because (s/he) supports (candidate a or b)." (Original Post) Armstead Mar 2016 OP
...and they're a crappy (whatever they do for a living) too! cyberswede Mar 2016 #1
I never liked (him or her) anyway Armstead Mar 2016 #2
I stand with (xyz) cloudbase Mar 2016 #3
I have always admired (xwz). A true icon. Armstead Mar 2016 #4
Why thank you... I'm not running but yes... Xyzse Mar 2016 #11
Yeah, people, at least here, tend to get very worked SheilaT Mar 2016 #5
yeah...I admire George Clooney a lot even though I think he's off base in this campaign Armstead Mar 2016 #6
LOL! SheilaT Mar 2016 #7
They're used to "thinking outside the box" so you might be right Armstead Mar 2016 #8
Yes, they are. SheilaT Mar 2016 #9
Celebrity endorsements, charity endorsements, political endorsements VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #10
Do you think electing Trump will bring about the "revolution" Bernie supporters hope for? JoePhilly Mar 2016 #12
Do you think she speaks for all Bernie supporters? SheilaT Mar 2016 #14
She appears to be saying something that many Bernie supporters ... JoePhilly Mar 2016 #18
There is more underlying what she said in a short interview Armstead Mar 2016 #16
Is that a yes, or a no? JoePhilly Mar 2016 #19
That's a "It's not a simple answer and I haven't the time or inclination to get into it right now" Armstead Mar 2016 #22
It certainly seemed that she was saying ... electing Hillary was a terrible thing ... JoePhilly Mar 2016 #23
Sigh...What she was saying (in shorter Readers Digest form) is... Armstead Mar 2016 #28
No she said SOME PEOPLE think that, and they do, at least try to be honest. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #17
It certainly appeared that she believed it would happen. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #20
Uh huh. Sure it did. To Hillary supporters who already hated her. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #21
So what revolution would electing Trump begin? JoePhilly Mar 2016 #24
Ask her, all I did was clarify what she actually said. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #25
Did not see you clarify anything. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #26
"No she said SOME PEOPLE think that, and they do, at least try to be honest." beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #29
So we agree ... those "Some people" hold an insane position ... yes? JoePhilly Mar 2016 #30
Asinine stupid shit is still asinine stupid shit. Skwmom Mar 2016 #13
X is dead to me, long live y! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #15
I like who she endorsed unless it wasnt my candidate. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #27

cloudbase

(5,511 posts)
3. I stand with (xyz)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:15 PM
Mar 2016

because they support my candidate, regardless of what they might have said or done in the past.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
5. Yeah, people, at least here, tend to get very worked
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:21 PM
Mar 2016

up over celebrity endorsements.

I simply feel a bit pleased if someone whose work I admire endorse my preferred candidate, and just quietly shake my head if another candidate is endorsed. In any case, there's no endorsement out there that will change my mind.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
6. yeah...I admire George Clooney a lot even though I think he's off base in this campaign
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mar 2016

But if Bruce Springsteen endorses Clinton.....Well that's End of Days

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
7. LOL!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:34 PM
Mar 2016

I'm a science fiction person, hang out, so to speak, in the science fiction world. I know any number of s-f writers. I haven't yet paid much attention to who they might be talking about politically, but a very large number of them are very liberal. My best guess is that more of them are for Bernie than for Hillary, but of course I could be completely wrong.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
9. Yes, they are.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:08 PM
Mar 2016

There are a handful of real conservative/right wingers in s-f, but not very many.

Another near universal is that they understand science, have no respect for non-scientific thinking (other than as it belongs in s-f or fantasy), and are very good at pointing out what can go wrong if too much faith is placed in science as being the perfect answer to all things.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
10. Celebrity endorsements, charity endorsements, political endorsements
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:09 PM
Mar 2016

To me, they're all steaming mounds of cow leavings. I vote policies; not labels, and not "he said she said".

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
12. Do you think electing Trump will bring about the "revolution" Bernie supporters hope for?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:11 PM
Mar 2016

Because that's what she said.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
14. Do you think she speaks for all Bernie supporters?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:12 PM
Mar 2016

And in case you answer yes, I'll tell you the correct answer is no.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
18. She appears to be saying something that many Bernie supporters ...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:15 PM
Mar 2016

... on DU agree with.

Which is why I asked the OP explicitly whether he agreed with her or not.

What she said is nonsensical, regardless of which candidate one supports.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
16. There is more underlying what she said in a short interview
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:14 PM
Mar 2016

It's shorthand for much bigger issues and possibilities depending on the outcome of the election.

Clinton supporters may find themselves part of that "revolution" too.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
22. That's a "It's not a simple answer and I haven't the time or inclination to get into it right now"
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:18 PM
Mar 2016

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
23. It certainly seemed that she was saying ... electing Hillary was a terrible thing ...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:20 PM
Mar 2016

... and that electing Trump would accelerate the coming of the revolution.

The premise being that once Trump took office, the people would finally rise up.

Seems pretty simple.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
28. Sigh...What she was saying (in shorter Readers Digest form) is...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:30 PM
Mar 2016

The status quo is not sustainable on many levels The necessity for fundamental reform and change is inevitable. It's a matter of how and when.

If we ignore the necessity for change now and elect a Democrat who encourages complacency and the status qup, conditions will continue to get worse until the consequences build up pressure for change that are unavoidable -- and will take forms that will not be very pleasant.

Trump would be such a disaster that those pressures might build up more quickly and result in the unpleasant consequences and pushes for change sooner.

Bernie is trying to bring positive changes through the political system now, rather than sweeping the underlying problems under the rug. That offers hope for positive change without the awful consequences.

Obviously your mileage may vary, but that in a nutshell is what she was saying. And I agree with her.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
26. Did not see you clarify anything.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:29 PM
Mar 2016

I watched the entire interview last night. She seemed very clear to me.

Now, if you think it would be crazy for her to have taken the position I think she took, then feel free to say me that.

That way, we would at least agree that it is crazy for anyone to argue that electing Trump would help usher in the "revolution" that Bernie supports claim they want.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
29. "No she said SOME PEOPLE think that, and they do, at least try to be honest."
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:32 PM
Mar 2016

You misrepresented what she said and I corrected you.

Your interpretation of what she meant is irrelevant to this discussion.

You're welcome.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
13. Asinine stupid shit is still asinine stupid shit.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:12 PM
Mar 2016

The absurdity of the arguments to support Clinton have reached an all time high.

Sarandon was commenting on her observations that the Clinton supporters do not want to hear.

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