Weakened at Bernie’s

[Agschmid]

Bernie Sanders had a good Saturday, but he doesn’t have momentum.

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After a very good weekend in which fortune fell upon Bernie Sanders like a bird alighting on a podium, you could be forgiven for thinking the Sanders campaign has momentum.

On Saturday, he won Washington state’s caucus with 72 percent of the vote. He won Hawaii’s with 70 percent of the vote. And he won Alaska’s with a whopping 82 percent of the vote. This follows victories in Idaho and Utah, where Sanders beat Hillary Clinton with 60-point margins. And if the past is any indication, the Sanders campaign will turn those wins into massive cash donations, fueling his efforts in Wisconsin (which votes next week), New York, and California.

Given his success, his fundraising, and the sheer enthusiasm for his campaign, it’s easy to look at the past week and believe that Sanders is on the cusp of a new dawn—that soon he’ll turn a corner toward victory. “Don’t let anybody tell you we can’t win the nomination or win the general election,” he told supporters. “We’re going to do both of those things.”

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None of this is to dismiss Sanders or his support. But at this stage, the primary is static. There are states that favor Sanders, and there are states that favor Clinton. The latter hold more pledged delegates than the former. After Nevada, the Sanders campaign pursued a “state-win strategy,” designed to score as many states as possible. But they didn’t need states; they needed delegates. Now, they face a hill that’s almost too steep to climb.

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[jillan]

1. Oh goody! Let's keep throwing Sander's supporters under the bus! WooHoo!!

That's a great strategy to unite the party!

[Agschmid]

2. How were you thrown under the bus, by me or the author?

[salinsky]

9. Since I've been on DU, all I've seen is ...

... Hillary voters saying they'd absolutely support Bernie should he win the nomination, and what I can only hope is a very vocal minority of Bernie supporters saying they'd never vote for Hillary, and BTW, fuck the Democratic party.

"WooHoo!", indeed.

[hollysmom]

29. we must be reading different boards.

[Avalon Sparks]

30. Hillary is far right on fiscal and War policies...

She's left on social issues, that actually don't effect me.



If she wins the nomination, I'll have to switch to the Green Party.... So you're right, although my interpretation is that the Dem party gave the finger to me first.

[salinsky]

35. You sound just like Trump ...

... concern for your fellow countrymen used to be the cornerstone of progressivism.

I guess not so much for Bernie supporters.

[Avalon Sparks]

37. Can't counterpoint my claim so you name call.....

I hate to break it to you, but the progressive Democrat is not in the lead right now....

Hillarys only concern is for the mega millionaires that bankroll her personal wealth.

[MADem]

3. You don't win with states, you win with DELEGATES. Sanders wins lightly populated states!

Sanders’ victories are impressive, but to repeat myself, you don’t win the primary with states; you win it with delegates. And even after Saturday, Sanders trails behind Clinton in “pledged” delegates awarded through voting. Before Saturday, the former secretary of state led Sanders by 294 pledged delegates. After Saturday, she led by 259. With just under 2,000 pledged delegates left in the contest, Sanders needs 55 percent of remaining delegates to win a majority. If you add “superdelegates” (Democratic lawmakers and officials) to the total, then Sanders needs 66 percent of remaining delegates to score a majority.

[Agschmid]

4. 35 delegate shift... The race is static.

[demmiblue]

5. Please do not provide blind links. TIA. n/t

[Agschmid]

6. Slate is reliable/safe.

[demmiblue]

8. And?

I requested that you do not provide a blind link. You provided a blind link.

You are free to do as you will, obviously, but there are many of us who will not click on the link (personally, I am in the habit of looking at the link before reading the snippet).

[Agschmid]

10. I view on mobile and don't see the full link anyways so for me it doest matter.

You can always determine the source of the link before you click it, it's easy.

[demmiblue]

15. I can't when I am not on my desktop.

Either way, common courtesy should prevail.

Not everyone is well versed in technology.

[Agschmid]

16. Fair enough.

[demmiblue]

18. Thank you.

Personally, I will not give right-wing sites traffic (as well as certain 'left-wing' sites such as HuffPo).

I am not saying that you would link to a right-wing site (that I do not doubt), but I feel it is a good thing that people can see where their click will take them.

[magical thyme]

21. if it's so easy, perhaps you could take the time to elucidate as to how...

I have no idea how, other than click it and see where it's taking me.

I despise blind links. I consider them rude. Usually a deliberate attempt to lure me into a place I'd rather not be. Why else attempt to hide the source?

[Agschmid]

24. On a Mac just copy the link into the nav/url bar and the decide if you want to go.

[magical thyme]

26. ok, thank you. so first I have to buy a Mac....

well just looked at my bank account. That's not happening anytime soon

[Agschmid]

27. Well it's the same on a PC... I think?

[magical thyme]

49. I have to click on the blind link. it starts to download the article...

luckily my antique pc is usually so slow that I usually can turn it off before it downloads. Unfortunately now that I'm stuck with firefox it's excrutiatingly slow and takes forever to even show me what it's trying to download.

I still prefer to simply know the source before I click on it. That way, if I doze off while waiting for firefox to tell me what it's trying to download I don't look up from my nap and find myself someplace I don't want to be.

I don't understand people's love affairs with their little blue links. It's more work and time all around.

[one_voice]

48. On my laptop, all I do is..

place my cursor over it and at the bottom of my screen the address comes up. I have a Toshiba and I use Firefox--not sure if that makes a difference.

[demmiblue]

28. If you hover your mouse over the 'link'...

you should see the address on the left-hand bottom of your screen.



(even if people know how to do this, they shouldn't have to)


Edit: this is assuming that you are on a desktop/laptop. If you are using a phone/tablet it is more time consuming.

[jillan]

7. Because he has a lot of supporters in the remaining states that cannot wait to vote for him.

We know he has a steep road ahead of him, no one is denying that.

But trying to deny his supporters their right to vote for him when neither candidate has the 2383 delegates needed to become the nominee is extremely dismissive.
Yes, I know, we all know, Hillary is closer than Bernie. But she is not there yet, is she?

[Agschmid]

11. I'm not trying to deny anyone the right to vote, I'm posting on an internet discussion board.

[msongs]

34. internet bullies disagree with your desire to do what they themselves are doing nt

[longship]

12. Yup! Posted from the Hillary group.

The most oppressive group on DU, with 768 blocked DUers, even those who will gladly support their candidate in the GE.

But what they really want is ideological purity!! And whatever you do, don't make a light-hearted post about a bird that in no way maligns their candidate.

Birds put the whole group into apoplexy. BAM! Banned.

And they don't even honor their banning message:

You have been blocked from posting in the Hillary Clinton group by <host>. If you believe this is an error, you may contact <host> for more information.

Of course, it is all a lie. The message should read:

You have been blocked from posting in the Hillary Clinton group by <host>. If you believe this is an error, that's too fucking bad. Don't bother PMing the host because we will ignore your appeal. We're the Hillary Clinton group and we just don't fucking care.

Kind fits with the 768 bans, doesn't it. And I will henceforth no longer ignore GD.P posts by Hillary posters.

[Agschmid]

17. Umm this is in GDP?

So....

[longship]

19. What I meant was cross posted in the Hillary group.

By you. So you already knew that, didn't you.

I thought so.

[Agschmid]

20. Yes, I posted this first.

There is no rule against cross posting, it's done all the time.

Your point?

[longship]

23. It's the type of HRC group post I used to ignore.

That I will no longer do.

BTW, It's rubbish.

[EyeOnLife]

36. When the banned members of the group exceeds the members of the HG

it doesn't look very nice on the candidate itself.

I avoid it like the plague. It's already a member of my "Full Trash" crew where it belongs. I suggest doing the same.

[longship]

38. I don't trash anything. Nobody blocked either.

I like my DU raw and dirty so I know what's going on.

[Agschmid]

46. Me too.

[longship]

47. I really think it's the best way.

I have had problems with some DUers, less so with groups. But I can easily ignore what I choose. Just because I disagree with one on a specific topic doesn't mean I disagree with them on all topics.

I find DU nearly always entertaining and informative. I really like the former, but one still has to have Sunday morning LOLcats and the great nearly daily toons. I presume that all DUers would agree with those sentiments.

So why trash groups or ignore DUers? It kind of defeats the purpose of DU.

YMMV.

[rbrnmw]

42. Welcome to DU

[beam me up scottie]

13. Boy you guys took it hard on Saturday.

It's Tuesday and you're still trying to spin it into a loss.

[Agschmid]

14. He won, all three states.

It's not a loss.

But the race is static.

[Armstead]

22. Latest national poll I saw

(can't remember the name because it flashed by on the TV bit a reputable one)

Bernie 49 percent support v. Clinton 48 percent

[Agschmid]

25. Yes he seems to be leading in some recent national polls.

[liberal N proud]

31. It's not an national election

All elections are local (state by state) and each state has a set number of delegates based on population. National polls don't mean anything when it comes to elections.

[LexVegas]

32. He has momentum if that means losing a little less bad. nt

[Cowpunk]

33. "But at this stage, the primary is static." What rubbish!

As if everyone has already made up their mind,

[Vinca]

39. The article is a tad contradictory.

On one hand they say he doesn't have momentum, but on the other they say there are states that favor Sanders. This article reminds me of "filler" pieces that turn up in the Sunday paper. Stuff like "10 Uses for Leftover Meatloaf" and "A Dozen Ways to Recycle Egg Boxes."

[Agschmid]

41. Those aren't mutually exclusive statements.

[Persondem]

40. Exactly this. Sanders had a great day but only gained 25 or so delegates. April looks to favor

Clinton by a wide margin with lots of delegates in play. K & R

[Tarc]

43. That is the best thread title ever, +1

[Agschmid]

44. It certainly is a play on words.

[Cha]

45. K&R!