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new NY poll - Bernie 42%, Hillary 54% - Hillary's lead 1/4 of what it was 2 weeks ago (Original Post) NWCorona Mar 2016 OP
He's going to have to spend real $$$ here, though. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2016 #1
If Bernie wins WI by the margin I suspect... HumanityExperiment Mar 2016 #2
LOL NOPE Kalidurga Mar 2016 #29
corp media... HumanityExperiment Mar 2016 #30
That MSM will do it's best to shape perception is a given Kalidurga Mar 2016 #31
Wisconsin is a primary state. Even if he wins it won't be by anywhere close to the margins we saw StevieM Mar 2016 #34
Ya... ok... sure... HumanityExperiment Mar 2016 #35
I don't. Best case scenario for Bernie is 54 or 55 percent IMO. Obviously we will find out StevieM Mar 2016 #36
We've got his back ... With money, at least ... Trajan Mar 2016 #3
Yup NWCorona Mar 2016 #5
No doubt he's gonna have to work for it NWCorona Mar 2016 #4
Interesting Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #16
Hillary needs a big win in NY too! NWCorona Mar 2016 #20
ADOPTED DAUGHTER THUMPS NATIVE SON BklnDem75 Mar 2016 #6
I seen that but is it supposed to bother me? NWCorona Mar 2016 #7
The "Thumping" part is referring to Dem-GOP matchups JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #18
Yup NWCorona Mar 2016 #24
A pro Hillary headline? BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #9
They're lying about the meaning of the headline, it is a reference to Trump. No surprise. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #19
Thanks. I didn't even look at the link. BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #21
Nothing says open minded like ignoring everyone you disagree with BklnDem75 Mar 2016 #23
you haven't noticed that headlines are usually different than the actual articles? Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #25
Comparing polls from different polling orgs doesn't make sense. DCBob Mar 2016 #8
Exactly, that's one of the silliest things one can do with polling KingFlorez Mar 2016 #10
No doubt and you know that I respect your opinion NWCorona Mar 2016 #11
I think this current poll is more accurate than that Emerson poll. DCBob Mar 2016 #15
I get your point NWCorona Mar 2016 #17
Beauty!!! choie Mar 2016 #12
Has Hillary ever gone up in polls? Gwhittey Mar 2016 #13
nope. Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #26
I am skeptical because Quinnipiac underestimates her support in primary polls. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #14
I definitely have my issues with polls NWCorona Mar 2016 #22
from a 55 point lead a few months ago Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #27
Well it was only natural that it got closer but Hillary will win. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #28
That poll was an outlier. A couple of recent polls had her up by twenty. StevieM Mar 2016 #37
I wouldn't know, but I'd bet there's some... dchill Mar 2016 #32
The more Bernie is known the more he is liked hollowdweller Mar 2016 #33
So this is why Clinton Camp abandoned WI and are now focused on NY... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #38
Yup NWCorona Mar 2016 #39
I'm only seeing a narrow part of NY where I live, but I don't believe Hillary's support is that high Victor_c3 Mar 2016 #40
This poll was taken over Purim and Easter weekend. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #41
 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
1. He's going to have to spend real $$$ here, though.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:18 AM
Mar 2016

World capital of media billionaires that hate Sanders-ism to its core.

Murdoch, Zuckerman, Bloomberg, .... the whole damn zoo is headquartered here.

He's on the *ignore* list. ( They got that from DU? Who knows.)

Bernie's going to have to *buy* time. And lots of it.

IF they'll even sell it to him.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
2. If Bernie wins WI by the margin I suspect...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:20 AM
Mar 2016

If Bernie wins WI by the margins I suspect, he won't need to 'buy time', he'll be given tons of it....

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
29. LOL NOPE
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:33 AM
Mar 2016

I do agree with the premise that he should be given plenty of free time. But, that isn't how it's been playing out. Check out #Berniemademewhite, this happened after Bernie won some of the most diverse states in the country. So, no MSM and the DNC and corporatists aren't going to play fair and they aren't going to play this the way the game has been traditionally played, that winners get more airtime.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
30. corp media...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:39 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie's win in WI will just add more 'friction' that corp media can use for segments that allows them to create more 'friction' between Bernie and HRC... but either way, Bernie will get more air time, just not what exactly the kind he would want...

If Bernie wins NY then it will get so much more in favor of Bernie, since of course all things that 'matter' start and end with East Coast and especially the corp media hub of the US ...

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
31. That MSM will do it's best to shape perception is a given
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:42 AM
Mar 2016

how they twist the truth well I can't even hazard a guess what they will say about a Wisconsin win. Perhaps a variation of this
"How ever will Bernie recover from that devastating win in Wisconsin?"

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
34. Wisconsin is a primary state. Even if he wins it won't be by anywhere close to the margins we saw
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:52 PM
Mar 2016

in the western caucus states. Even those states would have been much closer if they had held primaries.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
35. Ya... ok... sure...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

One thing for sure, there's one candidate that's gaining momentum both in delegates and polling and one that's not

So you grab tightly and hold fast to that perception, 22 primaries left and 56% or better from those remaining allow Bernie to beat HRC

Do you think Bernie can and will do better than 56% in WI?... Hmmmm I do

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
36. I don't. Best case scenario for Bernie is 54 or 55 percent IMO. Obviously we will find out
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:28 PM
Mar 2016

on Tuesday.

I don't think Bernie will win New York, let alone with 56 percent of the vote. That goes for California too. And I think Hillary is favored in NJ and PA. Maryland should be a huge Clinton win.

He'll probably do better in Oregon, West Virginia and Kentucky.

We'll see.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
3. We've got his back ... With money, at least ...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:22 AM
Mar 2016

And with word of mouth support on social media, which can help blunt the media hegemony you refer to ...

Go New York! .. Go Bernie!

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
4. No doubt he's gonna have to work for it
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:24 AM
Mar 2016

But this poll is great news for Bernie. Especially with what's going on in Wisconsin.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
16. Interesting
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:45 AM
Mar 2016

since this was her state she should be winning by a landslide! This does not seem to be the case.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
7. I seen that but is it supposed to bother me?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:28 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie has made huge gains in NY regardless of what's on the header.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
18. The "Thumping" part is referring to Dem-GOP matchups
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:49 AM
Mar 2016

The real headline is:

CLINTON, TRUMP HAVE BIG LEADS IN NEW YORK PRIMARIES,
QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY POLL FINDS;
ADOPTED DAUGHTER THUMPS NATIVE SON, EDGES KASICH


The post you are replying to is disingenuous.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
24. Yup
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:17 AM
Mar 2016

It almost seems like most posts are with a few exceptions.

I think they fail to realize that they are bragging about the very things that are wrong with the system we have right now.

No poll should have a headline like that.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
21. Thanks. I didn't even look at the link.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:52 AM
Mar 2016

We all know by now that the polls in this election season are garbage. Bernie didn't "make up" 20 points in New York in 2 weeks. We'll see what happens on April 19.

BklnDem75

(2,918 posts)
23. Nothing says open minded like ignoring everyone you disagree with
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:11 AM
Mar 2016

I'm sure I'm in good company regardless.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
25. you haven't noticed that headlines are usually different than the actual articles?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:18 AM
Mar 2016

It's been that way for awhile, cause they know most people just skim headlines.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
8. Comparing polls from different polling orgs doesn't make sense.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:29 AM
Mar 2016

That Emerson one was likely an outlier. In all the other polls going back to last year she was incredibly steady at 55%. All that is happening now is that Bernie is picking up the undecideds.. which isnt going to be nearly good enough. Even if he gets them all he still loses by about 10 points. Bernie needs a big win to have any chance at all of winning this thing.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
10. Exactly, that's one of the silliest things one can do with polling
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:31 AM
Mar 2016

Comparing different polls doesn't make sense because of methodology and such. It makes for dramatic titles, but it's not the right way to look at polling.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
11. No doubt and you know that I respect your opinion
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:34 AM
Mar 2016

Even if we disagree at times.

That said I'll take this poll even if it's an outlier. I'll be honest 😀

We need to see some more polling to see if this holds.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
15. I think this current poll is more accurate than that Emerson poll.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:41 AM
Mar 2016

My point is Hillary is steady at around 55% and will likely remain so.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
17. I get your point
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:45 AM
Mar 2016

But I obviously want that to change. This poll does give a little credence to the theory that Hillary is worried about NY tho.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
13. Has Hillary ever gone up in polls?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:38 AM
Mar 2016

Well Except with African Americans after the Media and Black members of congress lied about Sanders Civil Rights activity and then said all Sanders supporters where racists?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
14. I am skeptical because Quinnipiac underestimates her support in primary polls.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:39 AM
Mar 2016

But it might very well be right. Sienna Polling has a better history of polling races in NYS.

I think she will win from 10-20 percent so this might be right but I want to see Sienna.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
22. I definitely have my issues with polls
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:53 AM
Mar 2016

And I'll admit that Bernie needs more numbers coming his way if this poll to be believed.

But as it stands right now. I'll take it.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
28. Well it was only natural that it got closer but Hillary will win.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:30 AM
Mar 2016

The question is the margin. Sienna will be out with another poll soon and we shall see if it really is 12%

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
37. That poll was an outlier. A couple of recent polls had her up by twenty.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

I still expect her to win by double digits.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
33. The more Bernie is known the more he is liked
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:52 PM
Mar 2016

However I'm not sure he will become known everywhere in enough time to tip the balance.
 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
38. So this is why Clinton Camp abandoned WI and are now focused on NY...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:37 PM
Mar 2016

It also explains why Camp Weathervane out of nowhere began a blitz of right wing style negative attacks on Bernie. Same story every time, whenever Clinton Campaign sees numbers they don't like their answer are negative personal attacks

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
39. Yup
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:41 PM
Mar 2016

There was talk of internal polling that made team Clinton worried about NY. This kinda helps that line of thinking.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
40. I'm only seeing a narrow part of NY where I live, but I don't believe Hillary's support is that high
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

I live in the Hudson Valley region of NY - about an hour north of NYC - and In the last year I've only seen one Hillary bumper sticker while I see lots of Bernie stickers on a daily basis. Hell, I see more "Obama '08" stickers in a given day than I see of anyone else other than Bernie Sanders in a given day.

If Hillary has as much support as the polls claim she has in this state, the people sure aren't showing it around where I live. Are they embarrassed of their support for Hillary Clinton? I'm really curious to see what will happen in my state's primary. Nobody I talk to admits to liking Hillary Clinton. They either go for Sanders or Trump.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
41. This poll was taken over Purim and Easter weekend.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:54 PM
Mar 2016

not the best time to poll in NY. Just realized that.

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