2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAren't the FBI interviews optional?
What happens if she refuses to talk to them?
They move forward with out her statement. And Hillary looks bad for ducking.
artyteacher
(598 posts)And they'll wrap it up soon, clearing her.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Response to artyteacher (Reply #2)
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artyteacher
(598 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)12
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)ZERO.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Based on some reports, it might be greater than zero.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I think what you just said is a steaming pile.
And if you don't produce reports stating the FBI is investigating Sanders doings, it will confirm that what you just posted is nothing more.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)That is why I used the language that I used. I mean there are few post that pop up when you Google "feds investigating Bernie Sanders", they're related to campaign contributions but who the hell knows with absolute certainty?
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)If you know they exist, you must have found out some how. Produce your source or you are a liar.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)not Feds
LuvLoogie
(6,971 posts)beaglelover
(3,462 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)and I think it's sad that you are proud that your candidate doesn't.
artyteacher
(598 posts)thanks for the chuckle.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)the current number, which is probably no more than a dozen or so needed to compile and polish the report that is already being written.
B2G
(9,766 posts)that would need to be examined, it's not feasible for 12 agent to accomplish this interview witnesses, compile reports, etc.
12 is what they are left with now after a year long investigation.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)1. How many agents have been assigned throughout the process?
2. What is the largest number of agents at any given time?
leveymg
(36,418 posts)confirming or denying an earlier leak. The Post really had no other choice but to obfuscate by restating that sentence, "dozens of FBI agents have been" working the case.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)aren't on the interview list...
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)But that was a glaring omission. Intentional?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Thank you in advance.
B2G
(9,766 posts)That have listed several aides. Several were not listed.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)And most lawyers will advise just that. Nothing good will come from it.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I can't see the director grilling Clinton but who knows.
It really depends on what evidence they have and no one knows what that is yet.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)He has always been a straight-shooter so what will be will be.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Even if it benefits Hillary. He does seem straight from what I know about him.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)by Joe Concha | 8:02 pm, March 30th, 2016
video 4852
Al Jazeera America may be shutting off the lights permanently soon, but that doesnt mean reporters like David Shuster arent continuing to go about their business until the final gun sounds.
Wednesday night, Shuster just reported on the 7:00 PM EST AJAM nightly newscast that the FBI has completed its examination of Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clintons private email server after an investigation lasting nearly one year. The former Fox News and MSNBC reporter states investigators are nearing a verdict whether to seek criminal charges against the Former Secretary of State, Senator and First Lady.
Per Shuster:
While Hillary Clinton fights for the Democratic presidential nomination, law enforcement officials tell Al Jazeera America the Federal Investigation into her personal email system while she was Secretary of State has reached a critical stage.
The FBI, led by Director James Comey, has now finished examining Clintons private emails and home server. And the sources add that Comeys FBI team has been joined by the Justice Department prosecutors. Together, they are now examining the evidence, analyzing relevant laws, and attempting to arrange interviews with key figures in the investigation.
Those interviews, according to attorneys, will include former State Department aides Philippe Reines, Former Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills, and Clinton herself.
Soon after those interviews in the next few days and weeks officials expect Director Comey to make his recommendation to Attorney General Loretta Lynch about potential criminal charges.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/ajams-shuster-exclusive-hillary-clinton-to-be-interviewed-by-fbi-director-comey-in-mere-days/
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)if you know who will apologize for constantly pushing this story here.
Or the dozens of you know who's.
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Although that will guarantee an indictment.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)You can't pick and choose what you are going to plead the 5th on. It's all or nothing.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)The interview is largely a formality, anyway, since the FBI has been investigating this for a year, now. It's more of a courtesy than fact-finding. It will present an opportunity for Clinton to perjury herself, of course. But, Comey already knows exactly what he needs to know to proceed to the next step.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Hillary likely will perjure herself if she answers.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)ones who got her into this mess.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)Lord knows, she is neck deep in felonious activity of many stripes.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)The truth likely incriminates her. Refusing to answer is a PR nightmare. Lying results in perjury charges. It will be interesting to see what parsing and weaseling she does. I imagine a lot of "that depends what the definition of Is is" type of stuff.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)Of the three choices:
1. Admit to felonies
2. Perjure herself
3 Plead the Fifth
leveymg
(36,418 posts)yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)I am wondering what she copied from secure government servers:
strategic information detailing submarine communication frequency scramble and decipher,
location of hidden military assets... things like that.
The Russian uranium deal certainly comes to mind, as does the Saudi arms deal.
The fate of the ambassador from Benghazi; the role of Sidney Blumenthal in relation
to the Clinton Foundation; the appearance of pay-to-play involving SOS Clinton, Bill Clinton paid speeches, and 'donations' to the Clinton Foundation.
An in-depth analysis of where the money comes from... and where the money goes.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:59 PM - Edit history (1)
the following that go to her state of mind at the time:
1) "When you signed an affidavit to the US District Court stating that you did not utilize the home server for official business until March, 2009, in fact you had used that same email system on February 13, 2009 to discuss setting up an "off-grid" system with your Chief of Staff, Ms. Mills and others on your staff, including Mr. Kennedy and Ms. Abedin. Why did you not reveal these communications in that deposition? [Reference to: Declaration of Hillary Rodham Clinton (Aug. 10, 2015) (ECF No. 22-1) (Clinton Decl.).] When did you discover that error, Mrs. Clinton? Did you discuss that error with any others at the time you discovered it?
2) "When you set up the server in January 2009 and communicated with your aides Mr. Kennedy, Ms. Abedin, and Ms. Mills to create an "off-grid" system, did you first seek the advise of Department General Counsel? If you did not consult with the General Counsel, why did you not do so? Did you seek out and were you given advise by any other source, and what advise was given?
3) "I'm going to hand you a piece of paper, this is the Security Oath signed by you on January 22, 2009. Is that your signature? It is, okay, did you read the section that follows binding you to keep safe all classified materials and report any breeches of security protocol related to classified documents that might be received by you? Here, I will read that section for the record . . ."
I think the interview will unfold something like that, one known fact leading into the next. The subject of her instruction to her aide to strip off classification headers and "send unsecure" will also surely come up, as will her response to Sidney Blumenthal to "keep 'em coming" after she received from him what was obviously classified information originating with another agency.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)"'her response to Sidney Blumenthal to "keep 'em coming" after she received form him what was obviously information originating with another agency'"
Interesting. First time I have come across that.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)If you can't find it, let me know. Excuse the typo.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)How Blumenthal got it is unknown.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)Dirt on her rivals?
grasswire
(50,130 posts)It was highly secret intel on Sudan IIRC
B2G
(9,766 posts)as well.
All of those emails were on the same server. You can be assured they were reviewed.
Oh to be a fly on the wall...
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)She's going to be pardoned after the AG runs out the clock on issuing an indictment to the last day of this Administration's term. But, arrangements will be made so that she never again sleeps in the White House, or entertains ambitions of the same. It's going to be an interesting Convention.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)gordianot
(15,237 posts)She basically angered the NSA far more dangerous than any political opponents.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)And, yes, the retired CIA guy who obtained these documents for Sid (who sent them to "Keep 'em coming" Hillary) died last August in a hospital in Northern Virginia. Google Tyler Drumheller. Pancreatic Cancer. He had a major role in a previous scandal, as well. Something about a "Curveball."
grasswire
(50,130 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)but in that set of emails with Sid Blumenthal, unrefuted information indicates it was NSA that was the originating agency.
NSA never forgets. She must have assumed that all her take would be minimized. But, reportedly, the FBI was able to "restore" all the data on her server, despite it being professionally dry-cleaned, twice. They do good work at the Crime Lab, apparently. Perhaps, with some help from the all-seeing one.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)I am a little confused by the various caches. The server in NY, the server in Colorado, apparently later sent to NJ. The cloud. The 30,000 missing. The ones revealed in the hack. Not asking you to explain, I just need to figure it out.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)email after Platte River (the original email host) sent it to a NJ company that professionally wiped the server clean. We are told someone kept a back-up before the wipe, and the FBI obtained it. Once hosted to the Cloud, someone instructed Clinton Management Corp to speed up the server's auto refresh. The details are on the timeline
Land of Enchantment
(1,217 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)And if they will be asking questions or just observing.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/meet-us-attorney
Meet the U.S. Attorney
Channing D. Phillips
Channing D. Phillips took office on October 19, 2015 as United States Attorney for the District of Columbia.United States Attorney Channing Phillips
Mr. Phillips formerly served as counselor to the Attorney General, and also served as the Executive Director for the Attorney Generals Diversity Management Advisory Council and was the day-to-day coordinator for diversity-management issues within the Department and the Departments primary contact for external agencies on these issues.
Mr. Phillips has served the Department of Justice in many capacities over the years, including Interim U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, Principal Assistant U.S. Attorney, and Spokesman for the U.S. Attorneys Office. He first joined the U.S. Attorneys Office as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in 1994, where he prosecuted violent crime, drug trafficking, gun, and fraud offenses in both the Superior Court and the Criminal Divisions. Mr. Phillips initially joined the U.S. Department of Justice in 1990 as a trial attorney with the Organized Crime & Racketeering Section of the Criminal Division.
A native Washingtonian, U.S. Attorney Phillips is a 1980 graduate of the University of Virginia and a 1986 graduate of the Howard University School of Law. Following law school, Mr. Phillips worked for the law firm of Charles Morgan Associates, Chartered, in Washington, D.C., before serving as a judicial law clerk to the Honorable Shellie F. Bowers, Associate Judge of the Superior Court of the District of Columbia.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Criminal Division
Jonathan M. Malis, Chief
The Criminal Division represents the United States government in criminal matters before the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. Cases are handled by approximately 60 Assistant U.S. Attorneys, including attorneys who are assigned for short rotations in the division and who primarily handle arrest-generated matters. The Criminal Division is divided into four litigating sections.
The National Security Section handles all terrorism, terrorism hoax, export enforcement and espionage matters, investigations into leaks, mishandling, or other disclosure of classified information, and other sensitive matters that implicate national security and/or have significant extraterritorial aspects.
The Violent Crime and Narcotics Trafficking Section handles long-term investigations, initiatives, and prosecutions of gang-related violence and complex narcotics conspiracies, working with both our federal and local law enforcement partners.
The Fraud and Public Corruption Section handles white collar crime and public corruption offenses, major consumer fraud and identity theft, health care fraud, tax violations, corporate and securities fraud, mail and wire fraud, computer hacking, and intellectual property crimes.
The Asset Forfeiture and Money Laundering Section oversees all criminal and civil forfeiture matters for the Criminal Division. The mission of the section is to enforce compliance with the laws of the United States by using criminal and civil forfeiture, and money laundering charges, to disrupt and deter criminal activity, to dismantle criminal enterprises, and to deprive criminals and criminal organizations of illegal proceeds and instrumentalities of crime.
The Cyber Unit is an independent litigating and consulting unit that reports directly to the Criminal Division front office.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...and plead the 5th in person. You are correct, once she invokes the 5th she can't answer anymore ?s...no cherry-picking. If she refuses to show up she's probably held in contempt or something.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)But yeah, no win situation for Hillary.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)This of course will get her out of having to interview and they will drop their investigation. Kind of like when she told the big banks to cut it out and saved the world from the bankers malfeasance.
paulthompson
(2,398 posts)grntuscarora
(1,249 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I would think that taking the 5th would be big news. Really big.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)The waiting is the worst.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Believing anything she says is a mistake.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)I don't think even the dry cleaner can get that out.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)...wiping and wiping and wiping.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)it would come to this.
I truly believe that she has always believed that there will be no consequences.
And who know, maybe there won't be any.
It is clear that there is no precedent for what she did. No cabinet-level official has ever set up a private, unsecured sever that even the president didn't know existed.
I completely ignored Benghazi. Never paid one iota of attention. But this is different.
I encourage all Dems--Bernie and Hillary supporters to read up on this. Anyone who think this is no big deal hasn't done their due diligence. From what I read, she clearly broke the law. She clearly sent classified info. That is fact. Several of her emails have been retroactively classified as Top Secret--the highest classification.
She tries to confuse and justify this by saying that nothing that she sent was marked classified. Emails that she wrote and sent wouldn't be "marked classified", now would they? Because she originated and wrote them. She's playing word games. Are we really supposed to believe that a Secretary of State never sent classified material--when the primary thrust of her job was to deal with world governments, geopolitical intel, world leaders and US foreign policy? That's not even remotely possible.
I do not know what will happen. However, it is clear that the FBI all ready knows what she did and what is in those emails that she deleted. They've been recovered. And she knows this.
She has to tell the truth. Otherwise it's a perjury charge. They've got emails that she deleted (between her and Blumenthal)--that she was supposed to turn over. I'm no lawyer but isn't that evidence tampering? The FBI went to great lengths to recover the 30,000 emails that she deleted off of her server. Tell me again that this isn't serious?
It appears that they are really going after her. They also granted immunity to her IT guy and they extradited "Guccifer" to the US. He first discovered the Blumenthal/Clinton emails. No doubt, that's why the FBI extradited him--to confirm and clarify issues surrounding those email chains.
Sounds like she'll be interviewed very soon, within days.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I read somewhere if one "writes an indictment and puts it under their pillow the Indictment Fairy will arrest Hillary Clinton."
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)She just does her job and keeps her head down.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Certainly a man or woman of your perspicacity could have made that inference.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)I lost my perspicacity in a traumatic industrial accident.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)His posts always make sense.
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)....on the possibility.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)mandatory testimony.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)in hot water over Valerie Plame, it was his willingness to answer and to be available that saved his hideous hyde.