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Baobab

(4,667 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:32 PM Mar 2016

The Résumé Factor: Those 2 Terms as First Lady (New York Times - 2007)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/us/politics/26clinton.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

"As first lady, Hillary Rodham Clinton jaw-boned the authoritarian president of Uzbekistan to leave his car and shake hands with people. She argued with the Czech prime minister about democracy. She cajoled Roman Catholic and Protestant women to talk to one another in Northern Ireland. She traveled to 79 countries in total, little of it leisure; one meeting with mutilated Rwandan refugees so unsettled her that she threw up afterward.

But during those two terms in the White House, Mrs. Clinton did not hold a security clearance. She did not attend National Security Council meetings. She was not given a copy of the president’s daily intelligence briefing. She did not assert herself on the crises in Somalia, Haiti and Rwanda."


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The Résumé Factor: Those 2 Terms as First Lady (New York Times - 2007) (Original Post) Baobab Mar 2016 OP
She even wore a Goldwater cowboy hat in high school upaloopa Mar 2016 #1
She didn't drink the Kool-aid? daleanime Mar 2016 #2
She never fought for universal health care. Baobab Mar 2016 #3
You obviously don't know what you are talking about upaloopa Mar 2016 #5
Summary of the 1994 health care program Baobab Mar 2016 #8
She could probably hit the ground running.. speaktruthtopower Mar 2016 #4
Running all right Old Codger Mar 2016 #6
She may have picked up a little more foreign policy experience Retrograde Mar 2016 #7

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. She even wore a Goldwater cowboy hat in high school
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:34 PM
Mar 2016

Oh nos!!!!!!!!!


What was Bernie doing when Hillary was fighting the right wing for universal health care?

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
2. She didn't drink the Kool-aid?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:44 PM
Mar 2016

Don't tell that to the stock holders.

And ask Hillary where Bernie was, that is the Hillary from the 1990s. Present day Hillary can't even remember speeches that shes given in the last couple of years. And don't worry, I won't hold by breath waiting for a response.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
3. She never fought for universal health care.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

Not any universal I have ever seen.



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Which Democrat's Health Plan Really, Truly Covers More People?

By Laura Meckler

Updated Dec. 5, 2007 11:59 p.m. ET

While the leading Democratic presidential candidates agree on most policy issues, a sharp dispute has emerged: Who would do more to provide health coverage for the uninsured?

Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have been engaged in a bitter back-and-forth over whose health plan covers more people. Former Sen. John Edwards has jumped in, saying his plan is the best of all.

The Players: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards all claim to have universal health-care proposals.
The Background: Clinton and Edwards, but not Obama, would require all Americans to have insurance.
The Bottom Line: Mandates may be needed to get everyone insured, but it's unclear if these plans provide enough subsidies to make the mandates affordable.

The argument concerns whether the government should require all Americans to get insurance. Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Edwards would require people to get insurance, either through work, a government program or new health marketplaces that all three candidates promise to set up. Mr. Obama would only require that children be insured.

Other elements of their plans are similar, including subsidies to help lower-income and even middle-income families pay premiums, and various proposals to cut the cost of health care. The candidates say they would pay for their plans by rolling back President Bush's tax cuts for upper-income earners and by savings in health spending through various measures.

None of the Republican candidates has proposed a universal health plan. But with the race tight and health care the No. 1 domestic issue for Democrats, the differences among Democrats have become a point of continuing tension.

Mrs. Clinton charges that Mr. Obama's plan would leave 15 million people without insurance. Outside experts agree that number is in the ballpark. If people aren't required by law to buy insurance, many won't. There are millions of children, for instance, who remain uninsured, even though they qualify for free or subsidized government programs.

In addition, all three candidates want to bar insurance companies from rejecting sick people or charging them more. But it is hard to require companies to insure expensive sick people if they aren't guaranteed that cheap healthy people will balance them out.

On the campaign trail, Mrs. Clinton has attacked Mr. Obama for his plan, saying it betrays the Democratic principle of universal coverage. Her campaign has demanded that he take down an advertisement that claims his plan "covers everyone."

Mr. Obama has replied that her attacks are more about politics than substance; they didn't come, he noted, until she lost ground in the polls. But his advisers don't dispute her central charge. Rather, they claim Mrs. Clinton's plan would also leave millions without coverage.

Obama adviser Austan Goolsbee argues that if Mrs. Clinton's health plan is enacted, she will have to waive the mandate for millions of people. That is because, he says, there isn't enough money for subsidies to make health insurance affordable enough for people to buy it.

"You can't put in a mandate until health care is affordable," he says. He predicted that a Hillary Clinton administration would wind up exempting 20% of the uninsured, or about 10 million people. That is the percentage of uninsured adults who were exempted in Massachusetts, the only state to try an individual mandate.


That view may not be true. Ken Thorpe, a health-policy expert at Emory University who has advised all three major Democrats, said he ran cost estimates for the Clinton plan at the Clinton campaign's request, and found there should be enough money to make insurance affordable for all. He said he ran three scenarios with varying levels of subsidies -- from $100 billion a year to $120 billion a year. The campaign chose one in the middle: $110 billion.

If it turns out that isn't enough money to make health premiums affordable, Mrs. Clinton would have to spend more on subsidies, one of her health-care advisers said.

But, the adviser said, it is wrong to assume that 20% of Americans will be exempted. It is impossible to say for certain, because the campaign has not explained how large the subsidies will be or who will qualify for them.

The Obama plan does some other things to get people insurance. It allows adults up to age 25 to stay on their parents' insurance even if they aren't in school. And it attempts to lower the cost of insurance overall through a reinsurance plan, whereby the federal government would cover some expenses of some of the most costly patients.

Outside experts note that the Clinton and Obama plans propose spending about the same amount of money, while Mr. Obama uses some of his to pay for the reinsurance plan -- an initiative that could cost tens of billions of dollars. That should help lower premiums across the board, but it means there would be less available for direct subsidies.

Amid the Clinton-Obama dispute, Mr. Edwards, who was the first to propose a universal coverage plan, has tried to jump into the debate. He notes that he has been much more specific than Mrs. Clinton has about how he will enforce the mandate. Indeed, Mrs. Clinton has suggested some options but has not made as clear a statement about enforcement.

Under the Edwards plan, people will have to prove their have insurance when they file their taxes, and the government will seek to collect back premiums, with interest, for those who refuse to get it.

None of the candidates want to talk about the fact that even if their plans worked out exactly as designed, none would cover all 47 million uninsured people in the U.S. That's because several million of the uninsured -- estimates put it up to seven million -- are illegal immigrants, and none of the front-runners include them in their programs.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
5. You obviously don't know what you are talking about
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:58 PM
Mar 2016

Clinton health care plan of 1993

The Clinton health care plan, known officially as the Health Security Act and unofficially nicknamed "Hillarycare" (after First Lady Hillary Clinton) by its detractors,[1][2] was a 1993 healthcare reform package proposed by the administration of President Bill Clinton and closely associated with the chair of the task force devising the plan, First Lady of the United States Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Bill Clinton had campaigned heavily on health care in the 1992 U.S. presidential election. The task force was created in January 1993, but its own processes were somewhat controversial and drew litigation. Its goal was to come up with a comprehensive plan to provide universal health care for all Americans, which was to be a cornerstone of the administration's first-term agenda. A major health care speech was delivered by President Clinton to the U.S. Congress in September 1993. The core element of the proposed plan was an enforced mandate for employers to provide health insurance coverage to all of their employees.

Opposition to the plan was heavy from conservatives, libertarians, and the health insurance industry. The industry produced a highly effective television ad, "Harry and Louise", in an effort to rally public support against the plan. Instead of uniting behind the President's original proposal, Democrats offered a number of competing plans of their own. Hillary Clinton was drafted by the Clinton Administration to head a new Task Force and sell the plan to the American people, a plan which ultimately backfired amid the barrage of fire from the pharmaceutical and health insurance industries and considerably diminished her own popularity. By September 1994, the final compromise Democratic bill was declared dead by Senate Majority Leader George J. Mitchell


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_health_care_plan_of_1993

Retrograde

(10,132 posts)
7. She may have picked up a little more foreign policy experience
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:26 PM
Mar 2016

in the eight years since that was published, what with running the State Department and that.

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