2016 Postmortem
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Tuesday, April 12, 2016
Four Myths Keeping Clinton Afloat
by
John Atcheson
Published by Common Dreams
Myth # 1 Hillary is more likely to beat Republicans in the general election
For months now, polls show that Sanders has done better against Republican opponents than Hillary. In fact, he wins against opponents she loses to. In the latest polling, for example, she beats Trump by only 9 points, ties Cruz, and loses to Kasich. Meanwhile, Sanders beats Trump by 20 points, Cruz by 12 and Kasich by 11. And Republicans are plotting on ways to select a more electable candidate if the convention is deadlocked, so running Hillary is risky for Democrats.
This is especially true since her trustworthiness and likability ratings are both negative, (exceeded only by Trumps) which makes it difficult for her to pick up support beyond what she now has. Sanders, on the other hand, has the highest likeability and trustworthiness rating of any candidate, Republican or Democrat, which means he is likely to pick up more support the longer he runs.
Bottom line: not only does Hillary do worse against Republicans than Sanders, she has unique vulnerabilities that make her a risky candidate for Democrats to run. Indeed, running Hillary may be the only way the Democrats could lose the Whitehouse.
Myth #2 Hillary knows how to get things done
This is one of her favorite lines and it gets picked up by her many surrogates in the press. The fact is, it doesnt bear scrutiny. For example, she only sponsored 3 Bills that became law during her 8 year tenure. One established an historic site in New York, another renamed a Post Office, and the third named a portion of a highway in New York after Timothy J. Russert.
How about her claim of being able to work with Republicans? Politifact, which normally finds at least a little truth in just about any statement, rated her claim that
every piece of legislation, just about, that I ever introduced had a Republican co-sponsor as flat out false.
Ms. Clinton also didnt rank as particularly progressive, according to GovTrack.us, a non-partisan organization which has been keeping stats on legislators for several decades. And while she introduced a lot of Bills, she had a very low rate of getting them to become law, relative to the average Senator over the years.
Bottom line: She didnt get a whole hell of a lot done, and she wasnt particularly progressive.
Incidentally, Sanders also sponsored 3 bills during his Senate tenure that became law. Two were largely ceremonial, much like those Clinton sponsored. The third Bill added $17 billion to the Veterans Health care system, gave the Administrator of the Veterans administration broad powers to fix a broken system, and extended educational benefits to veterans and their dependents. In short, it was consequential. And Bernie got it done with bi-partisan support.
Finally, GovTrack rates Sanders as one of the most progressive members of Congress.
In short, hes a real progressive who got real things done.
Myth #3 Sanders isnt a real Democrat and he isnt doing anything to help the Partys downballot candidates
Where you stand on this depends upon how you define a Democrat. If its merely a label that can be worn by anyone regardless of their positions, then Sanders is guilty as charged. And certainly Hillary has offered financial and other help to Democrats that Sanders has not.
But if you believe that being a Democrat is about values, not labels, then Sanders is doing a tremendous amount to help the Democratic Party at all levels of government.
The fact of the matter is, the Democratic Party left the people behind decades ago, when they embraced the pay-to-play political model that now dominates our elections and our governance.
Hillary helps status quo Democrats who wear the label, without necessarily embracing the values that once defined the Party as the Party of the people.
So what is Sanders doing to help Democrats? Hes making it safe run on the New Deal values that defined the Party for much of the 20th Century. Thats the Party that brought unprecedented prosperity to our country from the end of World War II until the 1980s. Since then, the Party has been running from the notion that government can be a force for good; that it could and should assure a level playing field for all, both economically and socially; that capitalism was in need of strong regulation and restraint if it was to serve the masses rather than the few; that our planet was worthy of protection and preservation.
These were not only ethically correct; they were winning political issues too. And as Americans are strongly progressive on an issue-by-issue basis they still could be, if Democrats hadnt been bought off and scared off ever since Reagans big con.
Finally, Sanders is attracting new voters to the Party, and these voters will ultimately help elect more progressives at every level of government something Democrats desperately need if they are to avoid the disastrous low turnout that crippled the Party in 2014, when a mere 36.4 per cent of eligible voters showed up -- the lowest voter turnout in 72 years and Republicans won big at all levels of government.
Bottom line: Sanders has made it safe to be a real Democrat again and hes attracting much needed new voters, and is likely to have the coattails to help Democrats in Congressional and state races. Hillary is busy propping up the status quo, which will limit turnout.
Myth #4 Her experience gives her an edge
At the end of the day, experience counts for you only if you got things right, or at least learned from your mistakes.
Hillary is pretty much batting zero on all counts. Her foreign policy is basically the same as the neocons. She voted for the Iraq war, then compounded the error by supporting regime change in Libya and Syria. Her economic policies are soft on Wall Street and shes refused to back the $15 minimum wage. Finally, all this experience seems not to have given her a consistent view of policy. Shes flip-flopped on energy policy, trade agreements, crime issues, tax policy, regulation of the big banks
on and on it goes.
Bottom line: Ms. Clinton has loads of experience but shes demonstrated poor judgment.
Experience without judgment merely allows her the opportunity to make the same mistakes over and over again. Experience without independence assures that she will. And taking money from Wall Street, fossil fuel interests, the pharmaceutical industry and other fat-cats assures that she has no independence.
Sanders, on the other hand, has demonstrated good judgment in both domestic and foreign affairs and he is dependent only upon the people of the United States as our Constitution intended.
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GO Bernie!!!!
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)one would need a supertanker to transport
haikugal
(6,476 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Unfortunately, there are plenty of those.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)That nearly every MSM outlet keeps on stating that the above myths are fact. That keeps those BS myths being believed as truth by the majority of her supporters and the population at large.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)That's it right there.
Propaganda is corporate media. We need to just call them that rather than giving them the title of media, which implies journalist integrity & honesty about current & past events.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Is that the MSM has eschewed journalistic intercity/ethics in order to make massive profits. Decades ago, the news arm of the media never made a profit for their parent companies. Then, starting in the 80s the news departments increasingly fell under the control of the entertainment arm of the parent company. Now, the media is more worried about losing access to politicians (and therefore ratings and ad $money$) and advertisers through negative news stories. Now we have this watered down infotainment media that is detrimental and propagandistic.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Those myths are realities.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)That was sort of the point.
Logic is good.
But if you can prove each myth is correct & how the author was wrong, by all means....
Nanjeanne
(4,959 posts)And leave.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)There was no disproving of anything in that article, just a different opinion.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)lol
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)This is exactly the problem: Hillary is "The (D)" regardless of her positions on issues (does she even have any, other than to enrich herself?). And experience, as in her Iraq war vote? "But Bush told us he just wanted to pressure them into letting the inspectors back!" Fuck, us here at DU could smell his hard on for bombing the place from here! Don't give us that crap about believing that moron!
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)DINOs need to go.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Am I doing this right?
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Reading comprehension is an acquired skill.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)we try - but they are hopeless
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)Just tell us that we've all been duped into voting for her and we'll happily switch to Sanders? Is that the plan?
haikugal
(6,476 posts)brooklynite
(94,513 posts)...except for the millions of voters who did.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)there are millions of them
brooklynite
(94,513 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)...
mythology
(9,527 posts)It didn't happen until the public was outraged. It was going to happen because of that not because Sanders was on the committee.
There's a reason that groups like Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America pointed out that Sanders ignored them and avoided saying the VA had a problem. The House VA committee had 6 times as many hearings as did the Senate committee chaired by Sanders.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)He's been there for them for YEARS, always has their back.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)In 2014 the American Legion honored Bernie with their Patriot Award; in 2015 the VFW presented to him their prestigious Congressional Award.
Nobody in DC is better for veterans than Bernie Sanders.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)dchill
(38,474 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)How can one possible tell which parts are important?
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)You're wrong on all four points. That makes you a "Liar, liar, pants on fire. Feel the Bern!"
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)It needs to be said again.