2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNotice how none of the Republican candidates are taking the "release your transcripts" bait?
You'd think that if they consider Hillary the more intimidating general election opponent, they'd be doing all they can to force her hand during the primary so they can face the comparative lightweight Sanders.
The facts are all out there;
1) Hillary refuses to release the content of her promises to Wall Street, because disclosure would lose votes.
2) If she were to release transcripts, we'd have to take them at face value - they can't be independently corroborated - she could give us "transcripts" that make her look good, unless...
3) The Republicans definitely know what she promised, have them on tape and are going to produce them as ads in October.
If we nominate Clinton, we're going to get our asses handed to us. It will be disastrous for both the country and the Democratic brand.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)They want to face Clinton, not Sanders.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Cruz's wife was on the board of Goldman-Sachs when Hillary gave her speeches. Walking softly and carrying a very big stick. We're going to find out sooner or later what is in those transcripts should she be the nominee.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)By now it should be abundantly obvious that they are ready for Hillary.
DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)He has an ace up his sleeve.
It is amazing to me because I thought they really despise Cruz.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)She is employed by them based out of Houston and is currently on an unpaid leave of absence to work on her horrific husband's campaign. She is not in senior management or close to a Board level type employee.
If the Republicans any tapes or transcripts of Hillary's speeches to Wall Street or other businesses, there's no reason to put them out now. They would rather run against Hillary than Bernie so they would wait and put them out during the general election campaign.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)"Cruz was promoted in 2013 to regional head of the Southwest United States for the Investment Management Division in Houston".
That is pretty high up. Yup, she would have attended those speeches.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)Partner is the highest level at Goldman, and there are about 400 of them. Within that there are some distinctions. Heidi Cruz is a managing director, which is the level below partner, and I would guess there are a few thousand of them.
None of us have any idea where Hillary Clinton made those speeches to Goldman Sachs, how big the audience was, or who was in attendance. The fees for those speeches are basically bribes, so it isn't that important who sits in on them as long as the money is conveyed.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)In fact, pretty certain of it. When a corporation holds big speeches by famous people, it's usually management and upwards who attends. Here's the thing- in the end this won't be pretty. Hillary needs to come clean otherwise we are looking at a timebomb should she be the nominee.
artyteacher
(598 posts)Response to lumberjack_jeff (Original post)
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kcjohn1
(751 posts)The crazy thing is this issue will be similar to Romney's 47% comment. GOP will use this issue to depress turnout among Dems (essentially saying she doesn't represent you).
Trump/Cruz do not have paid speeches in the same ballpark. These speeches where bribes to get access to power and big money interests knew $200K was good investment on someone who had very good chance to become president.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)That's why they're not attacking her now except as a rhetorical bogeyman.
Re: your second sentence - they'd be right.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)The silence from the "VRWC" is telling in itself. They have the goods and are holding them (while praying that she gets the nom!) for the general election. Clinton, meanwhile, is doing what she always does - putting off judgement day and counting on dealing with the fallout later. Somehow.