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Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
Thu May 12, 2016, 06:51 AM May 2016

What would a GOP attack on Bernie look like?

It is factual, not speculation, that up until now Bernie outperforms Hillary nationally and in most every polled state against Trump.
That is the primary basis of Bernies assertion why he would be the better nominee.

Hillarys team and the MSM claim that those numbers are meaningless because the GOP machine has not taken aim at Bernie yet.
They assume, and it's never challenged, that those attacks would be successful and Trump would destroy Bernie.

For arguments sake, let's say they are correct.
So, for this exercise, let's state what we think those attacks would contain.
1. He's a socialist, which is kinda like a communist.
2. He had his honeymoon in Russia because he's a commie.
3. He said something nice about Castro, because he's a commie.
4. In his youth, he wrote some dirty sexual stuff, because he's a commie.
5. He wants income equality, because he's a commie and hates billionaires.
6. He believes health care is a right and not a privilege, because he's a commie. Etc. etc.

I'm sure that both Bernie and Hillary supporters can come up with others.
But, can we just stipulate that they would all claim that Bernies a commie.

And, then, just imagine - in your minds third eye - during the DNC convention, in rallies, speeches, advertising, and the debates (oh, especially the debates) how Bernie would explain his political governance philosophy of democratic socialism patterned after FDR.
Imagine the marketing of a modern day FDR against Donald frigging Trump.
I'd take that comparison every day and twice on the first Tuesday in November.
The commie thing would not stick.
Bernie and Jane would charm many in the middle class and they would win Independents and millenials in a landslide...plus bring in the traditional Dem base of women and minorities.

How do I KNOW that. I don't, of course. But, it's what I think would happen.
But, how do those that claim Bernies numbers against Trump would be reversed by GOP attacks KNOW that. They don't.
It's all just speculation.

For me, it's a shame we won't find out because Bernie vs Trump would be the greatest show on earth.
I know the math. I know Bernie is just playing out the string thru California as he promised his supporters he would do despite the math.
But, I thank him for his Herculean effort against incredible odds. He spoke for me and millions of others on so many issues that we care deeply about.

P.S. After June 7th, I will be done talking about Bernie. Hillary will be our nominee. My nominee.
I've already ordered my I'm With Her bumper stickers and yard signs that will replace my
Bernie ones on June 8. on Jan 20, She will be #45 and Trump will return to reality TV.



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What would a GOP attack on Bernie look like? (Original Post) Funtatlaguy May 2016 OP
Yes, the vetting will be brutal, his votes will also be an issue. Thinkingabout May 2016 #1
And the vetting wouldn't need to be factual. They would just float some rumors or Arkansas Granny May 2016 #2
Oh, yes, just like the many RW talking points posted daily about HRC without Thinkingabout May 2016 #5
They had a field day with Obama Care StayFrosty May 2016 #3
Nasty stuff. Thinkingabout May 2016 #7
The Republicans will lie about any candidate running as a Democrat. Dawgs May 2016 #15
the destruction of sanders would make the swiftboating of kerry look like child's play....media is beachbum bob May 2016 #4
The Bernie supporters don't want to hear this but it is SOOO true. redstatebluegirl May 2016 #10
Good thing we're picking a candidate that won't be attacked. Dawgs May 2016 #16
Bernie's attack on Predatory Capitalists would hit home with working class! B Calm May 2016 #6
Bernie A Commie. Mesee May 2016 #8
If he were vetted properly, he'd sink like a rock. n/t Lil Missy May 2016 #9
Let's not forget that Bernie's Jewish. The Lee Atwaters of today's COLGATE4 May 2016 #11
I think they would go more after his secularism. Funtatlaguy May 2016 #13
That won't matter a bit to lots of fundie Rethugs, COLGATE4 May 2016 #17
I know this. Hillary would get just as harsh a treatment from Trump as Bernie. Dawgs May 2016 #12
"After June 7th, I will be done talking about Bernie. Hillary will be our nominee. My nominee." Surya Gayatri May 2016 #14
They will run the Commie commie commie stuff, even though it's bullshit Tarc May 2016 #18

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
2. And the vetting wouldn't need to be factual. They would just float some rumors or
Thu May 12, 2016, 07:06 AM
May 2016

make a few baseless claims or outright lie. I refer you to the swift boating of John Kerry.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. Oh, yes, just like the many RW talking points posted daily about HRC without
Thu May 12, 2016, 07:12 AM
May 2016

Any truth to them, it will not cease. Hillary has selected not to vet Sanders.

StayFrosty

(237 posts)
3. They had a field day with Obama Care
Thu May 12, 2016, 07:10 AM
May 2016

Now imagine single payer

"state sponsored death squads"
"free handouts"
"18 trillion of debt"
His Soviet honeymoon
His close affiliations to socialist parties

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
15. The Republicans will lie about any candidate running as a Democrat.
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:45 AM
May 2016

Wouldn't it be better to run someone that is actually liked and has populist ideas?

Hillary will get destroyed in the GE, and her likability already sucks.. and that's with a lot of Democrats.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
4. the destruction of sanders would make the swiftboating of kerry look like child's play....media is
Thu May 12, 2016, 07:11 AM
May 2016

savoring the moment believe me....and why they all have been mostly silent during primary time as to give sanders a chance against hillary....

but they are praying for a chance to destroy sanders

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
10. The Bernie supporters don't want to hear this but it is SOOO true.
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:04 AM
May 2016

They wanted to run against Bernie, so easy.

Mesee

(42 posts)
8. Bernie A Commie.
Thu May 12, 2016, 07:35 AM
May 2016

Labelling Bernie a commie will never work. It's laughable. We live in a Global Community and people love Social Democrats. I live in Queens, NY with millions of people from the Old Soviet Union. Believe me he is no commie.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
11. Let's not forget that Bernie's Jewish. The Lee Atwaters of today's
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:40 AM
May 2016

Rethuglican party won't overlook using that little tidbit.

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
13. I think they would go more after his secularism.
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:44 AM
May 2016

Unless I'm wrong, I don't think think Bernie is a practicing Jew.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
17. That won't matter a bit to lots of fundie Rethugs,
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:48 AM
May 2016

particularly in Southern States. Jews to them are handmaidens of Satan.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
12. I know this. Hillary would get just as harsh a treatment from Trump as Bernie.
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:43 AM
May 2016

There is no doubt about that.

Tarc

(10,475 posts)
18. They will run the Commie commie commie stuff, even though it's bullshit
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:15 AM
May 2016

This is the problem with the Republican mindset, it does not advance as the years pass, they latch on to the same tired arguments and polish them to a shiny turd. The Shiny Turd of Bullshit is a cherished memento, a bundle of arguments that will still appeal to their fathers and grandfathers.

This is how they made goddamned Vietnam a relevant attack line in 2004. There are few things in life that make me grind my teeth to the bone worse than the "Swiftboat Vets for Truth"

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